Ending the Rebellion or restarting it differently
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Liam Devlin
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TY Mr Cameron, appreciate the courtesy sir!
Liam Devlin
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TY Mr Cameron, appreciate the courtesy sir!
Liam Devlin
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TY Mr Cameron, appreciate the courtesy sir!
Liam,
I can think of a few options off the top of my pointy head:
- Ret-con Kuligaan into irrelevence as Dave Nilsen did with IRIS; i.e. Kuligaan? Held some sort of cultural post in the Federation government, didn't he? Retired several years and putters around the university bothering the staff.
- Use him much as late-MT and TNE did as an off-stage Cassandara/Wise Man/Founding Father/Living Conscience figure.
- Use him as a McGuffin. He's the target of an adventure in some fashion. The players need to kidnap him, the players need to assist his defection, the players need to find him after he defects, the players need to kill him, the players need to prevent his being killed, and so forth.
Unlike many, my campaigns were rarely high powered. The players were more likely to be effected by events rather than effect events. I've described it before as mice in the wainscotting. This was because of my squeamishness with handling the plotting required. I'd participated in other high powered RPG campaigns in which things got way out of hand, so I avoided running such campaigns out of taste and temperment.
I would have never inserted Kuligaan into one of my campaigns as an ally, tool, or foil for the players. McGuffin, yes. NPC they interact with over a period of time, no.
Have fun,
Bill
Liam,
I can think of a few options off the top of my pointy head:
- Ret-con Kuligaan into irrelevence as Dave Nilsen did with IRIS; i.e. Kuligaan? Held some sort of cultural post in the Federation government, didn't he? Retired several years and putters around the university bothering the staff.
- Use him much as late-MT and TNE did as an off-stage Cassandara/Wise Man/Founding Father/Living Conscience figure.
- Use him as a McGuffin. He's the target of an adventure in some fashion. The players need to kidnap him, the players need to assist his defection, the players need to find him after he defects, the players need to kill him, the players need to prevent his being killed, and so forth.
Unlike many, my campaigns were rarely high powered. The players were more likely to be effected by events rather than effect events. I've described it before as mice in the wainscotting. This was because of my squeamishness with handling the plotting required. I'd participated in other high powered RPG campaigns in which things got way out of hand, so I avoided running such campaigns out of taste and temperment.
I would have never inserted Kuligaan into one of my campaigns as an ally, tool, or foil for the players. McGuffin, yes. NPC they interact with over a period of time, no.
Have fun,
Bill
Liam,
I can think of a few options off the top of my pointy head:
- Ret-con Kuligaan into irrelevence as Dave Nilsen did with IRIS; i.e. Kuligaan? Held some sort of cultural post in the Federation government, didn't he? Retired several years and putters around the university bothering the staff.
- Use him much as late-MT and TNE did as an off-stage Cassandara/Wise Man/Founding Father/Living Conscience figure.
- Use him as a McGuffin. He's the target of an adventure in some fashion. The players need to kidnap him, the players need to assist his defection, the players need to find him after he defects, the players need to kill him, the players need to prevent his being killed, and so forth.
Unlike many, my campaigns were rarely high powered. The players were more likely to be effected by events rather than effect events. I've described it before as mice in the wainscotting. This was because of my squeamishness with handling the plotting required. I'd participated in other high powered RPG campaigns in which things got way out of hand, so I avoided running such campaigns out of taste and temperment.
I would have never inserted Kuligaan into one of my campaigns as an ally, tool, or foil for the players. McGuffin, yes. NPC they interact with over a period of time, no.
Have fun,
Bill
Liam Devlin
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Good plans, Bill. A McGuffin...yeah...<grins>.
I concur. I found him to be too much of a "sacred cow/ cult of personality icon" to the RC, and so took my Son of Craig NPC to pillory him in my RC-Tne campaign (The Verbal Final War of the grumpy-Old Duffers).
Even coined a phrase for his cult-of followers, "Kuligaan's Hooligans."
I concur. I found him to be too much of a "sacred cow/ cult of personality icon" to the RC, and so took my Son of Craig NPC to pillory him in my RC-Tne campaign (The Verbal Final War of the grumpy-Old Duffers).
Even coined a phrase for his cult-of followers, "Kuligaan's Hooligans."
Liam Devlin
SOC-14 5K
Good plans, Bill. A McGuffin...yeah...<grins>.
I concur. I found him to be too much of a "sacred cow/ cult of personality icon" to the RC, and so took my Son of Craig NPC to pillory him in my RC-Tne campaign (The Verbal Final War of the grumpy-Old Duffers).
Even coined a phrase for his cult-of followers, "Kuligaan's Hooligans."
I concur. I found him to be too much of a "sacred cow/ cult of personality icon" to the RC, and so took my Son of Craig NPC to pillory him in my RC-Tne campaign (The Verbal Final War of the grumpy-Old Duffers).
Even coined a phrase for his cult-of followers, "Kuligaan's Hooligans."
Liam Devlin
SOC-14 5K
Good plans, Bill. A McGuffin...yeah...<grins>.
I concur. I found him to be too much of a "sacred cow/ cult of personality icon" to the RC, and so took my Son of Craig NPC to pillory him in my RC-Tne campaign (The Verbal Final War of the grumpy-Old Duffers).
Even coined a phrase for his cult-of followers, "Kuligaan's Hooligans."
I concur. I found him to be too much of a "sacred cow/ cult of personality icon" to the RC, and so took my Son of Craig NPC to pillory him in my RC-Tne campaign (The Verbal Final War of the grumpy-Old Duffers).
Even coined a phrase for his cult-of followers, "Kuligaan's Hooligans."
jfetters
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Yeah, Kuligaan should be window dressing at best, which is pretty much what he always has been to me.
But this makes me think of something kind of fun to twist with the character:
Have the Kuligaan in YTU behave as you are outlining, but then when he appears, someone hijacks his name and starts publishing all these anti-Imperial rants. Then Kuligaan is found and has all this fame/notoriety regarding something he never had anything to do with.
So he still is window dressing, but extra frilly.
But this makes me think of something kind of fun to twist with the character:
Have the Kuligaan in YTU behave as you are outlining, but then when he appears, someone hijacks his name and starts publishing all these anti-Imperial rants. Then Kuligaan is found and has all this fame/notoriety regarding something he never had anything to do with.
So he still is window dressing, but extra frilly.
jfetters
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Yeah, Kuligaan should be window dressing at best, which is pretty much what he always has been to me.
But this makes me think of something kind of fun to twist with the character:
Have the Kuligaan in YTU behave as you are outlining, but then when he appears, someone hijacks his name and starts publishing all these anti-Imperial rants. Then Kuligaan is found and has all this fame/notoriety regarding something he never had anything to do with.
So he still is window dressing, but extra frilly.
But this makes me think of something kind of fun to twist with the character:
Have the Kuligaan in YTU behave as you are outlining, but then when he appears, someone hijacks his name and starts publishing all these anti-Imperial rants. Then Kuligaan is found and has all this fame/notoriety regarding something he never had anything to do with.
So he still is window dressing, but extra frilly.
jfetters
SOC-14 1K
Yeah, Kuligaan should be window dressing at best, which is pretty much what he always has been to me.
But this makes me think of something kind of fun to twist with the character:
Have the Kuligaan in YTU behave as you are outlining, but then when he appears, someone hijacks his name and starts publishing all these anti-Imperial rants. Then Kuligaan is found and has all this fame/notoriety regarding something he never had anything to do with.
So he still is window dressing, but extra frilly.
But this makes me think of something kind of fun to twist with the character:
Have the Kuligaan in YTU behave as you are outlining, but then when he appears, someone hijacks his name and starts publishing all these anti-Imperial rants. Then Kuligaan is found and has all this fame/notoriety regarding something he never had anything to do with.
So he still is window dressing, but extra frilly.
Liam Devlin
SOC-14 5K
=================================================Originally posted by Jim Fetters:
Yeah, Kuligaan should be window dressing at best, which is pretty much what he always has been to me.
But this makes me think of something kind of fun to twist with the character:
Have the Kuligaan in YTU behave as you are outlining, but then when he appears, someone hijacks his name and starts publishing all these anti-Imperial rants. Then Kuligaan is found and has all this fame/notoriety regarding something he never had anything to do with.
So he still is window dressing, but extra frilly.
I can just imagine the lawsuit(s) in the RC-courts now for libel, slander, and "defamation of character"..
"Will the defendant (s) please rise?"
Liam Devlin
SOC-14 5K
=================================================Originally posted by Jim Fetters:
Yeah, Kuligaan should be window dressing at best, which is pretty much what he always has been to me.
But this makes me think of something kind of fun to twist with the character:
Have the Kuligaan in YTU behave as you are outlining, but then when he appears, someone hijacks his name and starts publishing all these anti-Imperial rants. Then Kuligaan is found and has all this fame/notoriety regarding something he never had anything to do with.
So he still is window dressing, but extra frilly.
I can just imagine the lawsuit(s) in the RC-courts now for libel, slander, and "defamation of character"..
"Will the defendant (s) please rise?"
Liam Devlin
SOC-14 5K
=================================================Originally posted by Jim Fetters:
Yeah, Kuligaan should be window dressing at best, which is pretty much what he always has been to me.
But this makes me think of something kind of fun to twist with the character:
Have the Kuligaan in YTU behave as you are outlining, but then when he appears, someone hijacks his name and starts publishing all these anti-Imperial rants. Then Kuligaan is found and has all this fame/notoriety regarding something he never had anything to do with.
So he still is window dressing, but extra frilly.
I can just imagine the lawsuit(s) in the RC-courts now for libel, slander, and "defamation of character"..
"Will the defendant (s) please rise?"
About Dulinor's original reforms themselves, I'm trying to come up with a list that will reflect his character. First and foremost, he is a product of the Imperial system, a major part of it, and, in this variant, its head; he'll probably try to implement reforms from above, and, more importantly, try to keep the system as a whole while correcting its excesses. Apart from that, he'll probably have his own romanticized version of the Imperium and of Nobles' duties, and will try to lead by example.
His reforms, however, will invoke the masses to put pressure on him for far more radical reforms, and, more importantly, to start fighting for their own interests without waiting for reforms from above.
I was thinking about three main initial reforms:
1) A "restructuring" of the Imperial state machine, especially the military part thereof, removing "old guard" and conservative elements from office, replacing them with "progressive" and "open minded" elements, and probably launching a massive anti-corruption campaign. This will achieve two things: first, it will increase Dulinor's ability to carry out his reforms (by removing internal opposition), and second, it will reward many petty nobles and local political figures who support Dulinor, not to mention the fact that the masses are going to be very pleased to see many overtly-corrupt officials go to jail.
2) A tax reform. A major one: the taxation of individuals rather than governments, using a progressive income tax (that is, the greater your income, the higher percentage of your income you pay to the emperor); fiefed Nobles will have to pay an additional "Honorable Duty" tax - that is, Their Honorable Duty to Care for their Subjects - which will go into the creation of an Imperium-wide welfare system. This will create a more fair tax system, with the rich Nobles and big shareholders (most of them nobles too) paying most of the taxes. Dulinor himself will lead by example and donate 50% of his (post-tax) corporate-stock and fief dividends to the new IWS (Imperial Welfare Service).
3) A massive investment by the Imperium in Subsidized Traders and in comfortable mortgages (far more comfortable than in LBB2) for Free Traders; an Imperial subsidy to passage in Free and Subsidized Traders; and an Imperial subsidy of planetside small businesses. This will help "the small citizen" at the expense of the Megacorps, AND will create a system of transport which will be loyal to the Emperor and willing to do "side jobs" for him...
His reforms, however, will invoke the masses to put pressure on him for far more radical reforms, and, more importantly, to start fighting for their own interests without waiting for reforms from above.
I was thinking about three main initial reforms:
1) A "restructuring" of the Imperial state machine, especially the military part thereof, removing "old guard" and conservative elements from office, replacing them with "progressive" and "open minded" elements, and probably launching a massive anti-corruption campaign. This will achieve two things: first, it will increase Dulinor's ability to carry out his reforms (by removing internal opposition), and second, it will reward many petty nobles and local political figures who support Dulinor, not to mention the fact that the masses are going to be very pleased to see many overtly-corrupt officials go to jail.
2) A tax reform. A major one: the taxation of individuals rather than governments, using a progressive income tax (that is, the greater your income, the higher percentage of your income you pay to the emperor); fiefed Nobles will have to pay an additional "Honorable Duty" tax - that is, Their Honorable Duty to Care for their Subjects - which will go into the creation of an Imperium-wide welfare system. This will create a more fair tax system, with the rich Nobles and big shareholders (most of them nobles too) paying most of the taxes. Dulinor himself will lead by example and donate 50% of his (post-tax) corporate-stock and fief dividends to the new IWS (Imperial Welfare Service).
3) A massive investment by the Imperium in Subsidized Traders and in comfortable mortgages (far more comfortable than in LBB2) for Free Traders; an Imperial subsidy to passage in Free and Subsidized Traders; and an Imperial subsidy of planetside small businesses. This will help "the small citizen" at the expense of the Megacorps, AND will create a system of transport which will be loyal to the Emperor and willing to do "side jobs" for him...
About Dulinor's original reforms themselves, I'm trying to come up with a list that will reflect his character. First and foremost, he is a product of the Imperial system, a major part of it, and, in this variant, its head; he'll probably try to implement reforms from above, and, more importantly, try to keep the system as a whole while correcting its excesses. Apart from that, he'll probably have his own romanticized version of the Imperium and of Nobles' duties, and will try to lead by example.
His reforms, however, will invoke the masses to put pressure on him for far more radical reforms, and, more importantly, to start fighting for their own interests without waiting for reforms from above.
I was thinking about three main initial reforms:
1) A "restructuring" of the Imperial state machine, especially the military part thereof, removing "old guard" and conservative elements from office, replacing them with "progressive" and "open minded" elements, and probably launching a massive anti-corruption campaign. This will achieve two things: first, it will increase Dulinor's ability to carry out his reforms (by removing internal opposition), and second, it will reward many petty nobles and local political figures who support Dulinor, not to mention the fact that the masses are going to be very pleased to see many overtly-corrupt officials go to jail.
2) A tax reform. A major one: the taxation of individuals rather than governments, using a progressive income tax (that is, the greater your income, the higher percentage of your income you pay to the emperor); fiefed Nobles will have to pay an additional "Honorable Duty" tax - that is, Their Honorable Duty to Care for their Subjects - which will go into the creation of an Imperium-wide welfare system. This will create a more fair tax system, with the rich Nobles and big shareholders (most of them nobles too) paying most of the taxes. Dulinor himself will lead by example and donate 50% of his (post-tax) corporate-stock and fief dividends to the new IWS (Imperial Welfare Service).
3) A massive investment by the Imperium in Subsidized Traders and in comfortable mortgages (far more comfortable than in LBB2) for Free Traders; an Imperial subsidy to passage in Free and Subsidized Traders; and an Imperial subsidy of planetside small businesses. This will help "the small citizen" at the expense of the Megacorps, AND will create a system of transport which will be loyal to the Emperor and willing to do "side jobs" for him...
His reforms, however, will invoke the masses to put pressure on him for far more radical reforms, and, more importantly, to start fighting for their own interests without waiting for reforms from above.
I was thinking about three main initial reforms:
1) A "restructuring" of the Imperial state machine, especially the military part thereof, removing "old guard" and conservative elements from office, replacing them with "progressive" and "open minded" elements, and probably launching a massive anti-corruption campaign. This will achieve two things: first, it will increase Dulinor's ability to carry out his reforms (by removing internal opposition), and second, it will reward many petty nobles and local political figures who support Dulinor, not to mention the fact that the masses are going to be very pleased to see many overtly-corrupt officials go to jail.
2) A tax reform. A major one: the taxation of individuals rather than governments, using a progressive income tax (that is, the greater your income, the higher percentage of your income you pay to the emperor); fiefed Nobles will have to pay an additional "Honorable Duty" tax - that is, Their Honorable Duty to Care for their Subjects - which will go into the creation of an Imperium-wide welfare system. This will create a more fair tax system, with the rich Nobles and big shareholders (most of them nobles too) paying most of the taxes. Dulinor himself will lead by example and donate 50% of his (post-tax) corporate-stock and fief dividends to the new IWS (Imperial Welfare Service).
3) A massive investment by the Imperium in Subsidized Traders and in comfortable mortgages (far more comfortable than in LBB2) for Free Traders; an Imperial subsidy to passage in Free and Subsidized Traders; and an Imperial subsidy of planetside small businesses. This will help "the small citizen" at the expense of the Megacorps, AND will create a system of transport which will be loyal to the Emperor and willing to do "side jobs" for him...
About Dulinor's original reforms themselves, I'm trying to come up with a list that will reflect his character. First and foremost, he is a product of the Imperial system, a major part of it, and, in this variant, its head; he'll probably try to implement reforms from above, and, more importantly, try to keep the system as a whole while correcting its excesses. Apart from that, he'll probably have his own romanticized version of the Imperium and of Nobles' duties, and will try to lead by example.
His reforms, however, will invoke the masses to put pressure on him for far more radical reforms, and, more importantly, to start fighting for their own interests without waiting for reforms from above.
I was thinking about three main initial reforms:
1) A "restructuring" of the Imperial state machine, especially the military part thereof, removing "old guard" and conservative elements from office, replacing them with "progressive" and "open minded" elements, and probably launching a massive anti-corruption campaign. This will achieve two things: first, it will increase Dulinor's ability to carry out his reforms (by removing internal opposition), and second, it will reward many petty nobles and local political figures who support Dulinor, not to mention the fact that the masses are going to be very pleased to see many overtly-corrupt officials go to jail.
2) A tax reform. A major one: the taxation of individuals rather than governments, using a progressive income tax (that is, the greater your income, the higher percentage of your income you pay to the emperor); fiefed Nobles will have to pay an additional "Honorable Duty" tax - that is, Their Honorable Duty to Care for their Subjects - which will go into the creation of an Imperium-wide welfare system. This will create a more fair tax system, with the rich Nobles and big shareholders (most of them nobles too) paying most of the taxes. Dulinor himself will lead by example and donate 50% of his (post-tax) corporate-stock and fief dividends to the new IWS (Imperial Welfare Service).
3) A massive investment by the Imperium in Subsidized Traders and in comfortable mortgages (far more comfortable than in LBB2) for Free Traders; an Imperial subsidy to passage in Free and Subsidized Traders; and an Imperial subsidy of planetside small businesses. This will help "the small citizen" at the expense of the Megacorps, AND will create a system of transport which will be loyal to the Emperor and willing to do "side jobs" for him...
His reforms, however, will invoke the masses to put pressure on him for far more radical reforms, and, more importantly, to start fighting for their own interests without waiting for reforms from above.
I was thinking about three main initial reforms:
1) A "restructuring" of the Imperial state machine, especially the military part thereof, removing "old guard" and conservative elements from office, replacing them with "progressive" and "open minded" elements, and probably launching a massive anti-corruption campaign. This will achieve two things: first, it will increase Dulinor's ability to carry out his reforms (by removing internal opposition), and second, it will reward many petty nobles and local political figures who support Dulinor, not to mention the fact that the masses are going to be very pleased to see many overtly-corrupt officials go to jail.
2) A tax reform. A major one: the taxation of individuals rather than governments, using a progressive income tax (that is, the greater your income, the higher percentage of your income you pay to the emperor); fiefed Nobles will have to pay an additional "Honorable Duty" tax - that is, Their Honorable Duty to Care for their Subjects - which will go into the creation of an Imperium-wide welfare system. This will create a more fair tax system, with the rich Nobles and big shareholders (most of them nobles too) paying most of the taxes. Dulinor himself will lead by example and donate 50% of his (post-tax) corporate-stock and fief dividends to the new IWS (Imperial Welfare Service).
3) A massive investment by the Imperium in Subsidized Traders and in comfortable mortgages (far more comfortable than in LBB2) for Free Traders; an Imperial subsidy to passage in Free and Subsidized Traders; and an Imperial subsidy of planetside small businesses. This will help "the small citizen" at the expense of the Megacorps, AND will create a system of transport which will be loyal to the Emperor and willing to do "side jobs" for him...
jfetters
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=================================================Originally posted by Liam Devlin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jim Fetters:
Yeah, Kuligaan should be window dressing at best, which is pretty much what he always has been to me.
But this makes me think of something kind of fun to twist with the character:
Have the Kuligaan in YTU behave as you are outlining, but then when he appears, someone hijacks his name and starts publishing all these anti-Imperial rants. Then Kuligaan is found and has all this fame/notoriety regarding something he never had anything to do with.
So he still is window dressing, but extra frilly.
I can just imagine the lawsuit(s) in the RC-courts now for libel, slander, and "defamation of character"..
"Will the defendant (s) please rise?" </font>[/QUOTE]
I don't know why, but I totally missed this when it was posted...