Ending the Rebellion or restarting it differently
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Liam Devlin
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Bill,
Yes.
You & the others are most welcome!
Yes.
You & the others are most welcome!
Liam Devlin
SOC-14 5K
Bill,
Yes.
You & the others are most welcome!
Yes.
You & the others are most welcome!
Liam Devlin
SOC-14 5K
Bill,
Yes.
You & the others are most welcome!
Yes.
You & the others are most welcome!
jfetters
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Yep, I have it here in front of me. I was reading the exchange and something was nagging me in the back of my mind about this, so I went to check it out.
This is from the "Lion at Bay" scenario article in TD9, which details the events fo 132-1116. The gist about Virasa is in line with what you have already quoted, Bill:
-Virasa is the Vilani word for Discovery
-Knolwedge of God is impossible during one's lifetime
-Discussion of God's existance is forbidden
-Discussions of the afterlife are done in quarterly meetings called khanu (foreshadowing)
-Beleivers will receive complete knowledge of all things in the afterlife
-Non-humans do not receive the blessing of knowledge.
-Non-humans and non-beleivers must wear black.
-Those who die a violent death will not attain full knowledge in the afterlife
-Full knowlege also requires a natural death on Dlan, thus many beleivers do not travel.
jfetters
SOC-14 1K
Yep, I have it here in front of me. I was reading the exchange and something was nagging me in the back of my mind about this, so I went to check it out.
This is from the "Lion at Bay" scenario article in TD9, which details the events fo 132-1116. The gist about Virasa is in line with what you have already quoted, Bill:
-Virasa is the Vilani word for Discovery
-Knolwedge of God is impossible during one's lifetime
-Discussion of God's existance is forbidden
-Discussions of the afterlife are done in quarterly meetings called khanu (foreshadowing)
-Beleivers will receive complete knowledge of all things in the afterlife
-Non-humans do not receive the blessing of knowledge.
-Non-humans and non-beleivers must wear black.
-Those who die a violent death will not attain full knowledge in the afterlife
-Full knowlege also requires a natural death on Dlan, thus many beleivers do not travel.
jfetters
SOC-14 1K
Yep, I have it here in front of me. I was reading the exchange and something was nagging me in the back of my mind about this, so I went to check it out.
This is from the "Lion at Bay" scenario article in TD9, which details the events fo 132-1116. The gist about Virasa is in line with what you have already quoted, Bill:
-Virasa is the Vilani word for Discovery
-Knolwedge of God is impossible during one's lifetime
-Discussion of God's existance is forbidden
-Discussions of the afterlife are done in quarterly meetings called khanu (foreshadowing)
-Beleivers will receive complete knowledge of all things in the afterlife
-Non-humans do not receive the blessing of knowledge.
-Non-humans and non-beleivers must wear black.
-Those who die a violent death will not attain full knowledge in the afterlife
-Full knowlege also requires a natural death on Dlan, thus many beleivers do not travel.
Jim,
Thanks for all that. My memory may be a sieve but I had a strong feeling regarding the "can't leave Dlan for whatever reasons" bit.
I suppose I'd remembered anything about Virasa because it was one of the hints that Dulinor was blowing smoke about his 'Federation' acting any differently than the Imperium. The hints I seem to recall were:
- Dulinor fiddling with Virasa for the reaons we've discussed.
- The assassination of a newly elected planetary president who had voiced strong opinions about the war and her planet's role in it. She's killed at the starport while embarking for home.
- Ever increasing demands for production, revenues, and warm bodies that drives the Verge region to secede from the Federation.
There may have been more but my weary wetware can't dredge them up.
I'll stress again that this information about Virasa in the OTU shold have no bearing on Virasa in Stei'awtliyrl's personal TU and campaign. The alternate rebellion ending Liam shared with us is a very good example of this. His group used a 'chinese menu' approach and wove together what sounds like a real hoot of a campaign to have played in.
Canon is for authors, use as much or as little as you please in your own Traveller universe.
Thanks again,
Bill
Thanks for all that. My memory may be a sieve but I had a strong feeling regarding the "can't leave Dlan for whatever reasons" bit.
I suppose I'd remembered anything about Virasa because it was one of the hints that Dulinor was blowing smoke about his 'Federation' acting any differently than the Imperium. The hints I seem to recall were:
- Dulinor fiddling with Virasa for the reaons we've discussed.
- The assassination of a newly elected planetary president who had voiced strong opinions about the war and her planet's role in it. She's killed at the starport while embarking for home.
- Ever increasing demands for production, revenues, and warm bodies that drives the Verge region to secede from the Federation.
There may have been more but my weary wetware can't dredge them up.
I'll stress again that this information about Virasa in the OTU shold have no bearing on Virasa in Stei'awtliyrl's personal TU and campaign. The alternate rebellion ending Liam shared with us is a very good example of this. His group used a 'chinese menu' approach and wove together what sounds like a real hoot of a campaign to have played in.
Canon is for authors, use as much or as little as you please in your own Traveller universe.
Thanks again,
Bill
Jim,
Thanks for all that. My memory may be a sieve but I had a strong feeling regarding the "can't leave Dlan for whatever reasons" bit.
I suppose I'd remembered anything about Virasa because it was one of the hints that Dulinor was blowing smoke about his 'Federation' acting any differently than the Imperium. The hints I seem to recall were:
- Dulinor fiddling with Virasa for the reaons we've discussed.
- The assassination of a newly elected planetary president who had voiced strong opinions about the war and her planet's role in it. She's killed at the starport while embarking for home.
- Ever increasing demands for production, revenues, and warm bodies that drives the Verge region to secede from the Federation.
There may have been more but my weary wetware can't dredge them up.
I'll stress again that this information about Virasa in the OTU shold have no bearing on Virasa in Stei'awtliyrl's personal TU and campaign. The alternate rebellion ending Liam shared with us is a very good example of this. His group used a 'chinese menu' approach and wove together what sounds like a real hoot of a campaign to have played in.
Canon is for authors, use as much or as little as you please in your own Traveller universe.
Thanks again,
Bill
Thanks for all that. My memory may be a sieve but I had a strong feeling regarding the "can't leave Dlan for whatever reasons" bit.
I suppose I'd remembered anything about Virasa because it was one of the hints that Dulinor was blowing smoke about his 'Federation' acting any differently than the Imperium. The hints I seem to recall were:
- Dulinor fiddling with Virasa for the reaons we've discussed.
- The assassination of a newly elected planetary president who had voiced strong opinions about the war and her planet's role in it. She's killed at the starport while embarking for home.
- Ever increasing demands for production, revenues, and warm bodies that drives the Verge region to secede from the Federation.
There may have been more but my weary wetware can't dredge them up.
I'll stress again that this information about Virasa in the OTU shold have no bearing on Virasa in Stei'awtliyrl's personal TU and campaign. The alternate rebellion ending Liam shared with us is a very good example of this. His group used a 'chinese menu' approach and wove together what sounds like a real hoot of a campaign to have played in.
Canon is for authors, use as much or as little as you please in your own Traveller universe.
Thanks again,
Bill
Jim,
Thanks for all that. My memory may be a sieve but I had a strong feeling regarding the "can't leave Dlan for whatever reasons" bit.
I suppose I'd remembered anything about Virasa because it was one of the hints that Dulinor was blowing smoke about his 'Federation' acting any differently than the Imperium. The hints I seem to recall were:
- Dulinor fiddling with Virasa for the reaons we've discussed.
- The assassination of a newly elected planetary president who had voiced strong opinions about the war and her planet's role in it. She's killed at the starport while embarking for home.
- Ever increasing demands for production, revenues, and warm bodies that drives the Verge region to secede from the Federation.
There may have been more but my weary wetware can't dredge them up.
I'll stress again that this information about Virasa in the OTU shold have no bearing on Virasa in Stei'awtliyrl's personal TU and campaign. The alternate rebellion ending Liam shared with us is a very good example of this. His group used a 'chinese menu' approach and wove together what sounds like a real hoot of a campaign to have played in.
Canon is for authors, use as much or as little as you please in your own Traveller universe.
Thanks again,
Bill
Thanks for all that. My memory may be a sieve but I had a strong feeling regarding the "can't leave Dlan for whatever reasons" bit.
I suppose I'd remembered anything about Virasa because it was one of the hints that Dulinor was blowing smoke about his 'Federation' acting any differently than the Imperium. The hints I seem to recall were:
- Dulinor fiddling with Virasa for the reaons we've discussed.
- The assassination of a newly elected planetary president who had voiced strong opinions about the war and her planet's role in it. She's killed at the starport while embarking for home.
- Ever increasing demands for production, revenues, and warm bodies that drives the Verge region to secede from the Federation.
There may have been more but my weary wetware can't dredge them up.
I'll stress again that this information about Virasa in the OTU shold have no bearing on Virasa in Stei'awtliyrl's personal TU and campaign. The alternate rebellion ending Liam shared with us is a very good example of this. His group used a 'chinese menu' approach and wove together what sounds like a real hoot of a campaign to have played in.
Canon is for authors, use as much or as little as you please in your own Traveller universe.
Thanks again,
Bill
Stei'awtliyrl
SOC-12
Awesome! Thank you all for these snips and snaps about Virasa.
The MTU version of the faith follows most of these tenents, but ignores the violent death prohibition and the natural death on Dlan requirement.
Instead, Virasa charges the faithful to gather as much knowledge as they can during their lives, for though Knowledge of the Divine Ground is impossible during ones life, the pursuit of knowledge will give the faithful a glimpse of paradise in the afterlife.
A second holy creed is the sharing of knowledge, a Holy sacrament that uplifts those who participate. This has also been interpreted to mean that those who do not know of Virasa, or the Divine Ground should be evangelized and brought into the faith.
Dlan is the Holy world where the first Virasan prophets learned of these revelations. All faithful must make a Holy Pilgrimage here once in their lifetime.
Humans are a race chosen by the Divine Ground to receive the blessings of Virasa. Other sentients are denied knowledge of the Divine Ground due to the Pride of the Ancients and their subsequent Fall.
It was a regional religion nearly exclusive to the Domain of Ilelish, until Dulinor emerged on the pubic scene. As a charismatic member of the Imperial Court and popular with the media, he became the popular face for Virasa throughout the Imperium, and indirectly helped to spread the faith beyond Ilelish.
The MTU version of the faith follows most of these tenents, but ignores the violent death prohibition and the natural death on Dlan requirement.
Instead, Virasa charges the faithful to gather as much knowledge as they can during their lives, for though Knowledge of the Divine Ground is impossible during ones life, the pursuit of knowledge will give the faithful a glimpse of paradise in the afterlife.
A second holy creed is the sharing of knowledge, a Holy sacrament that uplifts those who participate. This has also been interpreted to mean that those who do not know of Virasa, or the Divine Ground should be evangelized and brought into the faith.
Dlan is the Holy world where the first Virasan prophets learned of these revelations. All faithful must make a Holy Pilgrimage here once in their lifetime.
Humans are a race chosen by the Divine Ground to receive the blessings of Virasa. Other sentients are denied knowledge of the Divine Ground due to the Pride of the Ancients and their subsequent Fall.
It was a regional religion nearly exclusive to the Domain of Ilelish, until Dulinor emerged on the pubic scene. As a charismatic member of the Imperial Court and popular with the media, he became the popular face for Virasa throughout the Imperium, and indirectly helped to spread the faith beyond Ilelish.
Stei'awtliyrl
SOC-12
Awesome! Thank you all for these snips and snaps about Virasa.
The MTU version of the faith follows most of these tenents, but ignores the violent death prohibition and the natural death on Dlan requirement.
Instead, Virasa charges the faithful to gather as much knowledge as they can during their lives, for though Knowledge of the Divine Ground is impossible during ones life, the pursuit of knowledge will give the faithful a glimpse of paradise in the afterlife.
A second holy creed is the sharing of knowledge, a Holy sacrament that uplifts those who participate. This has also been interpreted to mean that those who do not know of Virasa, or the Divine Ground should be evangelized and brought into the faith.
Dlan is the Holy world where the first Virasan prophets learned of these revelations. All faithful must make a Holy Pilgrimage here once in their lifetime.
Humans are a race chosen by the Divine Ground to receive the blessings of Virasa. Other sentients are denied knowledge of the Divine Ground due to the Pride of the Ancients and their subsequent Fall.
It was a regional religion nearly exclusive to the Domain of Ilelish, until Dulinor emerged on the pubic scene. As a charismatic member of the Imperial Court and popular with the media, he became the popular face for Virasa throughout the Imperium, and indirectly helped to spread the faith beyond Ilelish.
The MTU version of the faith follows most of these tenents, but ignores the violent death prohibition and the natural death on Dlan requirement.
Instead, Virasa charges the faithful to gather as much knowledge as they can during their lives, for though Knowledge of the Divine Ground is impossible during ones life, the pursuit of knowledge will give the faithful a glimpse of paradise in the afterlife.
A second holy creed is the sharing of knowledge, a Holy sacrament that uplifts those who participate. This has also been interpreted to mean that those who do not know of Virasa, or the Divine Ground should be evangelized and brought into the faith.
Dlan is the Holy world where the first Virasan prophets learned of these revelations. All faithful must make a Holy Pilgrimage here once in their lifetime.
Humans are a race chosen by the Divine Ground to receive the blessings of Virasa. Other sentients are denied knowledge of the Divine Ground due to the Pride of the Ancients and their subsequent Fall.
It was a regional religion nearly exclusive to the Domain of Ilelish, until Dulinor emerged on the pubic scene. As a charismatic member of the Imperial Court and popular with the media, he became the popular face for Virasa throughout the Imperium, and indirectly helped to spread the faith beyond Ilelish.
Stei'awtliyrl
SOC-12
Awesome! Thank you all for these snips and snaps about Virasa.
The MTU version of the faith follows most of these tenents, but ignores the violent death prohibition and the natural death on Dlan requirement.
Instead, Virasa charges the faithful to gather as much knowledge as they can during their lives, for though Knowledge of the Divine Ground is impossible during ones life, the pursuit of knowledge will give the faithful a glimpse of paradise in the afterlife.
A second holy creed is the sharing of knowledge, a Holy sacrament that uplifts those who participate. This has also been interpreted to mean that those who do not know of Virasa, or the Divine Ground should be evangelized and brought into the faith.
Dlan is the Holy world where the first Virasan prophets learned of these revelations. All faithful must make a Holy Pilgrimage here once in their lifetime.
Humans are a race chosen by the Divine Ground to receive the blessings of Virasa. Other sentients are denied knowledge of the Divine Ground due to the Pride of the Ancients and their subsequent Fall.
It was a regional religion nearly exclusive to the Domain of Ilelish, until Dulinor emerged on the pubic scene. As a charismatic member of the Imperial Court and popular with the media, he became the popular face for Virasa throughout the Imperium, and indirectly helped to spread the faith beyond Ilelish.
The MTU version of the faith follows most of these tenents, but ignores the violent death prohibition and the natural death on Dlan requirement.
Instead, Virasa charges the faithful to gather as much knowledge as they can during their lives, for though Knowledge of the Divine Ground is impossible during ones life, the pursuit of knowledge will give the faithful a glimpse of paradise in the afterlife.
A second holy creed is the sharing of knowledge, a Holy sacrament that uplifts those who participate. This has also been interpreted to mean that those who do not know of Virasa, or the Divine Ground should be evangelized and brought into the faith.
Dlan is the Holy world where the first Virasan prophets learned of these revelations. All faithful must make a Holy Pilgrimage here once in their lifetime.
Humans are a race chosen by the Divine Ground to receive the blessings of Virasa. Other sentients are denied knowledge of the Divine Ground due to the Pride of the Ancients and their subsequent Fall.
It was a regional religion nearly exclusive to the Domain of Ilelish, until Dulinor emerged on the pubic scene. As a charismatic member of the Imperial Court and popular with the media, he became the popular face for Virasa throughout the Imperium, and indirectly helped to spread the faith beyond Ilelish.
Liam Devlin
SOC-14 5K
Stei'awtliyrl, Jim, Bill, & others..
Our ATU Virasin Faith followed much of the MT-TU tenets, but like yours, allowed travel & evangelizing. Dlan was the Holy Center, the Mecca/Medina/Jerusalem of the Faith.
Our ATU had Virasin Missionaries as well. I used them as a random encounter in the MT-adventure Arrival Vengeance on Warinir/Daibei, matter of fact.
We changed the tenet to "die on Dlan" to "To be buried on Dlan." Thus, like Najaf, Iraq, the cemetery grounds around the Holy City there were immense. Our Dulinor, even though taking his own life, thus ascended into Heaven. His daughter Isis, in order to sway the Old Guard of the Faith ensured that as many who had served in the Federation Forces & died in battle (against non believers) were returned for burial. Non-believers like the USSR Communist Party WW2 example didn't get such treatment, good mail, etc. Isis herself, as a matter of state became member, and did not travel off world openly after taking the Archduchy.
Needless to say, there was a predictable spike in Virasin believers amidst the Fed. Ilelish armed forces. Not all took the Orange, many still wore the fearsome black.
The 1118 Synod was in our ATU, to seek dispensation for the Agnostic loyal (they who wore the Black) to The Federation & Dlan, to be buried on Dlan, and seek entrance to the afterlife (much the way a certain modern day faith can shift your departed loved ones into their church with the stroke of a pen & a monetary donation).
This perversion of the faith caused Ilelik Kuligaan to publicly denounce Isis as "leading the Church, Ilelish, and the Imperium to an eventual pyrrhic end; not to an afterlife of understanding, but a future of death, damnation, and misery."
Understandably he was "excommunicated" (in absentia, as he wisely fled) and remained a hunted man up until 1128 when he dropped completely off the radar of Virasin jihadist agents.
Our Isis saw her bid for power not only as righting a wrong of how her father had died, (Vengeance against Lucan, & later then Strephon) but also as a jihad to cleanse the immoral from power in the latter day, corrupt Third Imperium.
The Verge breakdown/ secession came about in our ATU for the predictable reasons that the Federation of Ilelish over taxed them in ships, manpower, for very little in return. The basis of what they'd harnessed prior to the Verge "mini-rebellion" was what became the ill-fated "Coronation Fleet". Ironically/ Coincidentally (as per MJD's 1248 OoTD) it was to Verge that elements of Isis's faction fled to to escape the hell that soon became Ilelish, only to 'wink out" about 1140.
How would portray Kuligaan's defection Stei'awtliyrl? Jim? Bill?
Our ATU Virasin Faith followed much of the MT-TU tenets, but like yours, allowed travel & evangelizing. Dlan was the Holy Center, the Mecca/Medina/Jerusalem of the Faith.
Our ATU had Virasin Missionaries as well. I used them as a random encounter in the MT-adventure Arrival Vengeance on Warinir/Daibei, matter of fact.
We changed the tenet to "die on Dlan" to "To be buried on Dlan." Thus, like Najaf, Iraq, the cemetery grounds around the Holy City there were immense. Our Dulinor, even though taking his own life, thus ascended into Heaven. His daughter Isis, in order to sway the Old Guard of the Faith ensured that as many who had served in the Federation Forces & died in battle (against non believers) were returned for burial. Non-believers like the USSR Communist Party WW2 example didn't get such treatment, good mail, etc. Isis herself, as a matter of state became member, and did not travel off world openly after taking the Archduchy.
Needless to say, there was a predictable spike in Virasin believers amidst the Fed. Ilelish armed forces. Not all took the Orange, many still wore the fearsome black.
The 1118 Synod was in our ATU, to seek dispensation for the Agnostic loyal (they who wore the Black) to The Federation & Dlan, to be buried on Dlan, and seek entrance to the afterlife (much the way a certain modern day faith can shift your departed loved ones into their church with the stroke of a pen & a monetary donation).
This perversion of the faith caused Ilelik Kuligaan to publicly denounce Isis as "leading the Church, Ilelish, and the Imperium to an eventual pyrrhic end; not to an afterlife of understanding, but a future of death, damnation, and misery."
Understandably he was "excommunicated" (in absentia, as he wisely fled) and remained a hunted man up until 1128 when he dropped completely off the radar of Virasin jihadist agents.
Our Isis saw her bid for power not only as righting a wrong of how her father had died, (Vengeance against Lucan, & later then Strephon) but also as a jihad to cleanse the immoral from power in the latter day, corrupt Third Imperium.
The Verge breakdown/ secession came about in our ATU for the predictable reasons that the Federation of Ilelish over taxed them in ships, manpower, for very little in return. The basis of what they'd harnessed prior to the Verge "mini-rebellion" was what became the ill-fated "Coronation Fleet". Ironically/ Coincidentally (as per MJD's 1248 OoTD) it was to Verge that elements of Isis's faction fled to to escape the hell that soon became Ilelish, only to 'wink out" about 1140.
How would portray Kuligaan's defection Stei'awtliyrl? Jim? Bill?
Liam Devlin
SOC-14 5K
Stei'awtliyrl, Jim, Bill, & others..
Our ATU Virasin Faith followed much of the MT-TU tenets, but like yours, allowed travel & evangelizing. Dlan was the Holy Center, the Mecca/Medina/Jerusalem of the Faith.
Our ATU had Virasin Missionaries as well. I used them as a random encounter in the MT-adventure Arrival Vengeance on Warinir/Daibei, matter of fact.
We changed the tenet to "die on Dlan" to "To be buried on Dlan." Thus, like Najaf, Iraq, the cemetery grounds around the Holy City there were immense. Our Dulinor, even though taking his own life, thus ascended into Heaven. His daughter Isis, in order to sway the Old Guard of the Faith ensured that as many who had served in the Federation Forces & died in battle (against non believers) were returned for burial. Non-believers like the USSR Communist Party WW2 example didn't get such treatment, good mail, etc. Isis herself, as a matter of state became member, and did not travel off world openly after taking the Archduchy.
Needless to say, there was a predictable spike in Virasin believers amidst the Fed. Ilelish armed forces. Not all took the Orange, many still wore the fearsome black.
The 1118 Synod was in our ATU, to seek dispensation for the Agnostic loyal (they who wore the Black) to The Federation & Dlan, to be buried on Dlan, and seek entrance to the afterlife (much the way a certain modern day faith can shift your departed loved ones into their church with the stroke of a pen & a monetary donation).
This perversion of the faith caused Ilelik Kuligaan to publicly denounce Isis as "leading the Church, Ilelish, and the Imperium to an eventual pyrrhic end; not to an afterlife of understanding, but a future of death, damnation, and misery."
Understandably he was "excommunicated" (in absentia, as he wisely fled) and remained a hunted man up until 1128 when he dropped completely off the radar of Virasin jihadist agents.
Our Isis saw her bid for power not only as righting a wrong of how her father had died, (Vengeance against Lucan, & later then Strephon) but also as a jihad to cleanse the immoral from power in the latter day, corrupt Third Imperium.
The Verge breakdown/ secession came about in our ATU for the predictable reasons that the Federation of Ilelish over taxed them in ships, manpower, for very little in return. The basis of what they'd harnessed prior to the Verge "mini-rebellion" was what became the ill-fated "Coronation Fleet". Ironically/ Coincidentally (as per MJD's 1248 OoTD) it was to Verge that elements of Isis's faction fled to to escape the hell that soon became Ilelish, only to 'wink out" about 1140.
How would portray Kuligaan's defection Stei'awtliyrl? Jim? Bill?
Our ATU Virasin Faith followed much of the MT-TU tenets, but like yours, allowed travel & evangelizing. Dlan was the Holy Center, the Mecca/Medina/Jerusalem of the Faith.
Our ATU had Virasin Missionaries as well. I used them as a random encounter in the MT-adventure Arrival Vengeance on Warinir/Daibei, matter of fact.
We changed the tenet to "die on Dlan" to "To be buried on Dlan." Thus, like Najaf, Iraq, the cemetery grounds around the Holy City there were immense. Our Dulinor, even though taking his own life, thus ascended into Heaven. His daughter Isis, in order to sway the Old Guard of the Faith ensured that as many who had served in the Federation Forces & died in battle (against non believers) were returned for burial. Non-believers like the USSR Communist Party WW2 example didn't get such treatment, good mail, etc. Isis herself, as a matter of state became member, and did not travel off world openly after taking the Archduchy.
Needless to say, there was a predictable spike in Virasin believers amidst the Fed. Ilelish armed forces. Not all took the Orange, many still wore the fearsome black.
The 1118 Synod was in our ATU, to seek dispensation for the Agnostic loyal (they who wore the Black) to The Federation & Dlan, to be buried on Dlan, and seek entrance to the afterlife (much the way a certain modern day faith can shift your departed loved ones into their church with the stroke of a pen & a monetary donation).
This perversion of the faith caused Ilelik Kuligaan to publicly denounce Isis as "leading the Church, Ilelish, and the Imperium to an eventual pyrrhic end; not to an afterlife of understanding, but a future of death, damnation, and misery."
Understandably he was "excommunicated" (in absentia, as he wisely fled) and remained a hunted man up until 1128 when he dropped completely off the radar of Virasin jihadist agents.
Our Isis saw her bid for power not only as righting a wrong of how her father had died, (Vengeance against Lucan, & later then Strephon) but also as a jihad to cleanse the immoral from power in the latter day, corrupt Third Imperium.
The Verge breakdown/ secession came about in our ATU for the predictable reasons that the Federation of Ilelish over taxed them in ships, manpower, for very little in return. The basis of what they'd harnessed prior to the Verge "mini-rebellion" was what became the ill-fated "Coronation Fleet". Ironically/ Coincidentally (as per MJD's 1248 OoTD) it was to Verge that elements of Isis's faction fled to to escape the hell that soon became Ilelish, only to 'wink out" about 1140.
How would portray Kuligaan's defection Stei'awtliyrl? Jim? Bill?
Liam Devlin
SOC-14 5K
Stei'awtliyrl, Jim, Bill, & others..
Our ATU Virasin Faith followed much of the MT-TU tenets, but like yours, allowed travel & evangelizing. Dlan was the Holy Center, the Mecca/Medina/Jerusalem of the Faith.
Our ATU had Virasin Missionaries as well. I used them as a random encounter in the MT-adventure Arrival Vengeance on Warinir/Daibei, matter of fact.
We changed the tenet to "die on Dlan" to "To be buried on Dlan." Thus, like Najaf, Iraq, the cemetery grounds around the Holy City there were immense. Our Dulinor, even though taking his own life, thus ascended into Heaven. His daughter Isis, in order to sway the Old Guard of the Faith ensured that as many who had served in the Federation Forces & died in battle (against non believers) were returned for burial. Non-believers like the USSR Communist Party WW2 example didn't get such treatment, good mail, etc. Isis herself, as a matter of state became member, and did not travel off world openly after taking the Archduchy.
Needless to say, there was a predictable spike in Virasin believers amidst the Fed. Ilelish armed forces. Not all took the Orange, many still wore the fearsome black.
The 1118 Synod was in our ATU, to seek dispensation for the Agnostic loyal (they who wore the Black) to The Federation & Dlan, to be buried on Dlan, and seek entrance to the afterlife (much the way a certain modern day faith can shift your departed loved ones into their church with the stroke of a pen & a monetary donation).
This perversion of the faith caused Ilelik Kuligaan to publicly denounce Isis as "leading the Church, Ilelish, and the Imperium to an eventual pyrrhic end; not to an afterlife of understanding, but a future of death, damnation, and misery."
Understandably he was "excommunicated" (in absentia, as he wisely fled) and remained a hunted man up until 1128 when he dropped completely off the radar of Virasin jihadist agents.
Our Isis saw her bid for power not only as righting a wrong of how her father had died, (Vengeance against Lucan, & later then Strephon) but also as a jihad to cleanse the immoral from power in the latter day, corrupt Third Imperium.
The Verge breakdown/ secession came about in our ATU for the predictable reasons that the Federation of Ilelish over taxed them in ships, manpower, for very little in return. The basis of what they'd harnessed prior to the Verge "mini-rebellion" was what became the ill-fated "Coronation Fleet". Ironically/ Coincidentally (as per MJD's 1248 OoTD) it was to Verge that elements of Isis's faction fled to to escape the hell that soon became Ilelish, only to 'wink out" about 1140.
How would portray Kuligaan's defection Stei'awtliyrl? Jim? Bill?
Our ATU Virasin Faith followed much of the MT-TU tenets, but like yours, allowed travel & evangelizing. Dlan was the Holy Center, the Mecca/Medina/Jerusalem of the Faith.
Our ATU had Virasin Missionaries as well. I used them as a random encounter in the MT-adventure Arrival Vengeance on Warinir/Daibei, matter of fact.
We changed the tenet to "die on Dlan" to "To be buried on Dlan." Thus, like Najaf, Iraq, the cemetery grounds around the Holy City there were immense. Our Dulinor, even though taking his own life, thus ascended into Heaven. His daughter Isis, in order to sway the Old Guard of the Faith ensured that as many who had served in the Federation Forces & died in battle (against non believers) were returned for burial. Non-believers like the USSR Communist Party WW2 example didn't get such treatment, good mail, etc. Isis herself, as a matter of state became member, and did not travel off world openly after taking the Archduchy.
Needless to say, there was a predictable spike in Virasin believers amidst the Fed. Ilelish armed forces. Not all took the Orange, many still wore the fearsome black.
The 1118 Synod was in our ATU, to seek dispensation for the Agnostic loyal (they who wore the Black) to The Federation & Dlan, to be buried on Dlan, and seek entrance to the afterlife (much the way a certain modern day faith can shift your departed loved ones into their church with the stroke of a pen & a monetary donation).
This perversion of the faith caused Ilelik Kuligaan to publicly denounce Isis as "leading the Church, Ilelish, and the Imperium to an eventual pyrrhic end; not to an afterlife of understanding, but a future of death, damnation, and misery."
Understandably he was "excommunicated" (in absentia, as he wisely fled) and remained a hunted man up until 1128 when he dropped completely off the radar of Virasin jihadist agents.
Our Isis saw her bid for power not only as righting a wrong of how her father had died, (Vengeance against Lucan, & later then Strephon) but also as a jihad to cleanse the immoral from power in the latter day, corrupt Third Imperium.
The Verge breakdown/ secession came about in our ATU for the predictable reasons that the Federation of Ilelish over taxed them in ships, manpower, for very little in return. The basis of what they'd harnessed prior to the Verge "mini-rebellion" was what became the ill-fated "Coronation Fleet". Ironically/ Coincidentally (as per MJD's 1248 OoTD) it was to Verge that elements of Isis's faction fled to to escape the hell that soon became Ilelish, only to 'wink out" about 1140.
How would portray Kuligaan's defection Stei'awtliyrl? Jim? Bill?