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DGP and all that

Thanks for the big explanation but as an ideas man how about planting a few seeds on the boards. DGP could always stir things up in the Traveller universe be it background or rules.
 
Speaking of Roger Sanger ...

Anyone have contact info for him these days?

I lost contact with him around 2001 and haven't heard from him since.
 
Speaking of Roger Sanger ...

Anyone have contact info for him these days?

I lost contact with him around 2001 and haven't heard from him since.
 
Speaking of Roger Sanger ...

Anyone have contact info for him these days?

I lost contact with him around 2001 and haven't heard from him since.
 
Americal jurisprudence is a derivative of English common law. in fact, a few pre-1700 brittish cases have been cited as precedent in some US cases. Rare, but it happens.
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Not as rare as you might think. Plus one US state's civil laws are derived from the French Civil Code which in turn was derived from Roman law.
 
Americal jurisprudence is a derivative of English common law. in fact, a few pre-1700 brittish cases have been cited as precedent in some US cases. Rare, but it happens.
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Not as rare as you might think. Plus one US state's civil laws are derived from the French Civil Code which in turn was derived from Roman law.
 
Americal jurisprudence is a derivative of English common law. in fact, a few pre-1700 brittish cases have been cited as precedent in some US cases. Rare, but it happens.
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Not as rare as you might think. Plus one US state's civil laws are derived from the French Civil Code which in turn was derived from Roman law.
 
Originally posted by JoeFugate:
Speaking of Roger Sanger ...

Anyone have contact info for him these days?

I lost contact with him around 2001 and haven't heard from him since.
Perhaps we should start a "questions to ask Roger " thread as well ;)
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Originally posted by JoeFugate:
Speaking of Roger Sanger ...

Anyone have contact info for him these days?

I lost contact with him around 2001 and haven't heard from him since.
Perhaps we should start a "questions to ask Roger " thread as well ;)
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Originally posted by JoeFugate:
Speaking of Roger Sanger ...

Anyone have contact info for him these days?

I lost contact with him around 2001 and haven't heard from him since.
Perhaps we should start a "questions to ask Roger " thread as well ;)
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Did either GDW or DGP declare bankruptcy at the end? Just curious as that can sometimes affect intellectual property rights as well...although apparently MWM kept the IP rights to himself -- otherwise they would have gone doen the tubes with GDW.
 
Did either GDW or DGP declare bankruptcy at the end? Just curious as that can sometimes affect intellectual property rights as well...although apparently MWM kept the IP rights to himself -- otherwise they would have gone doen the tubes with GDW.
 
Did either GDW or DGP declare bankruptcy at the end? Just curious as that can sometimes affect intellectual property rights as well...although apparently MWM kept the IP rights to himself -- otherwise they would have gone doen the tubes with GDW.
 
DGP never declared bankruptcy. It just ceased operation and tried to pay back it's largest creditors over a couple of years.

In that mix came Roger wanting to hand me a fist full of money when I was still trying to pay off the creditors.

Roger would only buy DGP if I kept the biggest debts, which I did since there was already a payback agreement in place in those cases.

So Roger got all the intellectual property and 90% of the remaining inventory. The inventory was boxes and boxes of the stuff that was not as popular, since all the popular stuff was sold out.

So Roger got all the TD, MTJ, and product files on floppy, and all the physical paste up archives. And all the in development archives, which mostly consisted of AI. Other products never got very far, so there really wasn't much there that never made it into print.

The early TDs and products were done in MacWord. Then we switched to Microsoft Word for the Mac. Then we moved to ReadySetGo! desktop publishing, and finally to PageMaker.

So Roger would have to sort through all those old floppies, install the software, and extract the text and content in electronic form, which would be quite a chore. Still, I'm surprised Roger hasn't done something with these archives.

I've seen lots of promises from Roger, some of which are 5+ years old at this point. At the end of the day, producing a product takes plain old brain knumbing, back breaking hard grunt work.

If you consider a book like Vilani & Vargr or Solomani & Aslan has about 100,000 words in it, and if you can crank out about 1000 polished, finished words in an evening on average, it will take you about three months of solid work to write such a beastie.

And this is what I (and the DGP staff) used to do. This is what I did to produce Knightfall, which I wrote for GDW this way at about this rate.

But notice, that's 90+ solid days of output, which is a lot of hard work. After almost 10 years, I'm not convinced Roger or any of his close associates have it in them.

I hate to say it, but it strikes me as a bunch of "wannabe's" with Roger willing to pay the money to buy himself a title, but never really willing to do the hard work to actually "earn" it.

I'd like to be proven wrong, but after almost 10 years of DGP in Roger's hands, results speak louder than words at this point. Roger seems to have lost a lot of credibility in the eyes of the gaming community I'm afraid. All talk and no do doesn't get you very far in this business.
 
DGP never declared bankruptcy. It just ceased operation and tried to pay back it's largest creditors over a couple of years.

In that mix came Roger wanting to hand me a fist full of money when I was still trying to pay off the creditors.

Roger would only buy DGP if I kept the biggest debts, which I did since there was already a payback agreement in place in those cases.

So Roger got all the intellectual property and 90% of the remaining inventory. The inventory was boxes and boxes of the stuff that was not as popular, since all the popular stuff was sold out.

So Roger got all the TD, MTJ, and product files on floppy, and all the physical paste up archives. And all the in development archives, which mostly consisted of AI. Other products never got very far, so there really wasn't much there that never made it into print.

The early TDs and products were done in MacWord. Then we switched to Microsoft Word for the Mac. Then we moved to ReadySetGo! desktop publishing, and finally to PageMaker.

So Roger would have to sort through all those old floppies, install the software, and extract the text and content in electronic form, which would be quite a chore. Still, I'm surprised Roger hasn't done something with these archives.

I've seen lots of promises from Roger, some of which are 5+ years old at this point. At the end of the day, producing a product takes plain old brain knumbing, back breaking hard grunt work.

If you consider a book like Vilani & Vargr or Solomani & Aslan has about 100,000 words in it, and if you can crank out about 1000 polished, finished words in an evening on average, it will take you about three months of solid work to write such a beastie.

And this is what I (and the DGP staff) used to do. This is what I did to produce Knightfall, which I wrote for GDW this way at about this rate.

But notice, that's 90+ solid days of output, which is a lot of hard work. After almost 10 years, I'm not convinced Roger or any of his close associates have it in them.

I hate to say it, but it strikes me as a bunch of "wannabe's" with Roger willing to pay the money to buy himself a title, but never really willing to do the hard work to actually "earn" it.

I'd like to be proven wrong, but after almost 10 years of DGP in Roger's hands, results speak louder than words at this point. Roger seems to have lost a lot of credibility in the eyes of the gaming community I'm afraid. All talk and no do doesn't get you very far in this business.
 
DGP never declared bankruptcy. It just ceased operation and tried to pay back it's largest creditors over a couple of years.

In that mix came Roger wanting to hand me a fist full of money when I was still trying to pay off the creditors.

Roger would only buy DGP if I kept the biggest debts, which I did since there was already a payback agreement in place in those cases.

So Roger got all the intellectual property and 90% of the remaining inventory. The inventory was boxes and boxes of the stuff that was not as popular, since all the popular stuff was sold out.

So Roger got all the TD, MTJ, and product files on floppy, and all the physical paste up archives. And all the in development archives, which mostly consisted of AI. Other products never got very far, so there really wasn't much there that never made it into print.

The early TDs and products were done in MacWord. Then we switched to Microsoft Word for the Mac. Then we moved to ReadySetGo! desktop publishing, and finally to PageMaker.

So Roger would have to sort through all those old floppies, install the software, and extract the text and content in electronic form, which would be quite a chore. Still, I'm surprised Roger hasn't done something with these archives.

I've seen lots of promises from Roger, some of which are 5+ years old at this point. At the end of the day, producing a product takes plain old brain knumbing, back breaking hard grunt work.

If you consider a book like Vilani & Vargr or Solomani & Aslan has about 100,000 words in it, and if you can crank out about 1000 polished, finished words in an evening on average, it will take you about three months of solid work to write such a beastie.

And this is what I (and the DGP staff) used to do. This is what I did to produce Knightfall, which I wrote for GDW this way at about this rate.

But notice, that's 90+ solid days of output, which is a lot of hard work. After almost 10 years, I'm not convinced Roger or any of his close associates have it in them.

I hate to say it, but it strikes me as a bunch of "wannabe's" with Roger willing to pay the money to buy himself a title, but never really willing to do the hard work to actually "earn" it.

I'd like to be proven wrong, but after almost 10 years of DGP in Roger's hands, results speak louder than words at this point. Roger seems to have lost a lot of credibility in the eyes of the gaming community I'm afraid. All talk and no do doesn't get you very far in this business.
 
It strikes me as ironic to consider it's now been 20 years since DGP was originally founded.

In it's first 10 years under my guideance, we produced a bunch of stuff ... 30+ titles if you include the magazines.

And the next 10 years under Roger's guideance? Zippo. Nada. Not one product.

Can you tell I'm pretty disappointed?
 
It strikes me as ironic to consider it's now been 20 years since DGP was originally founded.

In it's first 10 years under my guideance, we produced a bunch of stuff ... 30+ titles if you include the magazines.

And the next 10 years under Roger's guideance? Zippo. Nada. Not one product.

Can you tell I'm pretty disappointed?
 
It strikes me as ironic to consider it's now been 20 years since DGP was originally founded.

In it's first 10 years under my guideance, we produced a bunch of stuff ... 30+ titles if you include the magazines.

And the next 10 years under Roger's guideance? Zippo. Nada. Not one product.

Can you tell I'm pretty disappointed?
 
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