Condottiere
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I've done one of those.
What's important, are the landing struts.
What's important, are the landing struts.
Type S as a Tailsitter Prolate Spheroid
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Decks ought to be on 3m spacing; so am assuming that's a typo. (Technically, 2.2m floor-to-ceiling with 0.3m of inter-deck space for plumbing and vents. Would need to measure what I actually ended up doing though....)
Darnit! I was trying to help!
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Something something Kerbal space program.
Yeah,
3m not 6m
If it were KSP I'd just lithobrake......
One detail I overlooked: there needs to be some sort of dumbwaiter so the flight crew doesn't need to climb the ladder to the bridge while carrying coffee cups and/or snacks. It might just be the equivalent of a milk crate on a rope, though.
(Noticed the problem because I'm considering swapping out the starship that some of my fanfic characters are using.)
(Noticed the problem because I'm considering swapping out the starship that some of my fanfic characters are using.)
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Badenov
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Might be easier to have a small food synthesizer (3D printer just for food) on each deck rather than burn the space on a special elevator for food. Or, alternately, a lift for people that will let you rise up without needing to climb. The difference between a lift shaft and a passageway is direction in any event.
The "milk crate on a rope" is something I actually do at home! There's a narrow and steep spiral stairway down to the garage/basement, and I have a large shopping bag on the end of a rope for items too awkward to carry up or down the stairs. (Safety warning: remove jewelry and wear gloves when lifting more than a token payload, to avoid rope burns or worse.) On this ship, it has the advantage of being controlled by the "up-hill" end, which prevents the old "toss a grenade into the elevator and send it to the floor where your adversaries are" trick.
But yeah, a drinks dispenser and maybe a snack fridge are in order up there.
Spinward Flow
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If you need a vertical access, especially through multiple decks, you're far better off (from a deck plan perspective) installing a Grav Lift rather than using a ladder + hatch/iris valve setup. It's why I set up my "modular box" system with a Grav Lift as the access method in the vertical axis when stacking the modular boxes in arrays of vertical stacking.
An additional advantage of a Grav Lift shaft, when laying out deck plans, is that it both can (and I would argue, should!) be designed as a multi-axis airlock, meaning bounded by bulkhead walls (and decks). This can then be key to compartmentalizing interior spaces into compartments bounded by bulkheads which can be used to "segment" interior volumes for both security and damage control reasons.
Enoki
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In this case, it's merely a ladder between the bridge and the pilot's lounge (bunk room). The remaining inter-deck transport (and dirt-side airlock) is provided by an elevator.
That reminds me. I need to add oversize floor/ceiling access hatches to pass supplies, equipment, and fixtures that won't fit into the elevator. They'll normally be locked and concealed behind false floor and ceiling panels. The obvious path is from the ceiling of the Air/raft bay into the lounge on the quarters deck, 3m x 3m should pose no problem. There really isn't any open space for extra hatches -- especially, large ones -- between the lounge and the pilot's bunk room though.
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Enoki
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With the difference being that on this ship, there actually is internal space for a 9-story elevator shaft (10 if you count telescoping the bottom end of it out of the hull to serve as the dirt-side airlock).
Enoki
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Might be easier to just install grav plates that make the whole shaft near ZG...
Condottiere
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If you do, you can always reverse gravitational polarity.
That would allow an elevator cab to naturally fall up or down.
That would allow an elevator cab to naturally fall up or down.
AnotherDilbert
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Note that the context of my comment was a 2100 sqft house, not a ship.
I guess 'elf&safety would have something to say about climbing that in a vacc suit or 10 times a day with 50 kg of supplies in your hands...
An hatch and ladder chute is a great emergency backup to the main elevator.
Sure, but you notice the "emergency" and "escape" caveats?
Maybe 8 crew max and it's a working ship, not a cruise ship...
I guess 'elf&safety would have something to say about climbing that in a vacc suit or 10 times a day with 50 kg of supplies in your hands...
An hatch and ladder chute is a great emergency backup to the main elevator.
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Maybe 8 crew max and it's a working ship, not a cruise ship...
Now I have even more to think about.
I didn't include emergency exits in this design, mostly because I didn't expect they'd be necessary -- a lot of the time, "outside" is likely less safe than "inside". Probably ought to include at least a maintenance/escape hatch either on the main quarters deck or the pilot's lounge deck.
And how does one get into it if it's parked "cold" (with no power available whatsoever)? You can climb through the elevator car's floor and ceiling hatches after opening the hatch through which the extended elevator shaft exits the aft curve of the hull. Or, bring a very tall ladder to reach the airlock or the payload bays... That said, given the fantasy-level power that the ship uses for routine operations, it's probably a moot point.
Condottiere
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Hatches.
Cost nothing, and can be installed anywhere on the hull.
Cost nothing, and can be installed anywhere on the hull.
Enoki
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Putting your hand over your eyes, "The safety nuts don't see outside the starport!" followed by laughter....
On the other hand, while I want people to be able to get out, I also want to limit the number of ways they can get in.
And those hatches would be tens of metres from the ground if the ship is sitting upright on its landing gear, anyhow.
