Missions of State -- Does it suck or not?

[etherflyer]

Milieu 0 is very British, somehow. The dark underbelly of the empire is definately exposed.

TNE has a dark underbelly, too (at least the Reformation Coalition does), but you have to read it between the lines. For all the rhetoric, the RC is a wanna-be colonial power -- sending in the marines to change governments that won't do what it wants.

 

[etherflyer]

Milieu 0 is very British, somehow. The dark underbelly of the empire is definately exposed.

TNE has a dark underbelly, too (at least the Reformation Coalition does), but you have to read it between the lines. For all the rhetoric, the RC is a wanna-be colonial power -- sending in the marines to change governments that won't do what it wants.

 

[Andrew Boulton]

"Milieu 0 is very British, somehow."

I think M0's the one with a tiny contribution from me in it...

 

[Andrew Boulton]

"Milieu 0 is very British, somehow."

I think M0's the one with a tiny contribution from me in it...

 

[Ben W Bell]

Originally posted by Andrew Boulton:
"Milieu 0 is very British, somehow."

I think M0's the one with a tiny contribution from me in it...

Yup, you are listed as being a rumourmonger.

Also to note when discussing Missions of State, it does contain an adventure partially written by our very own MJD.

 

[Ben W Bell]

Originally posted by Andrew Boulton:
"Milieu 0 is very British, somehow."

I think M0's the one with a tiny contribution from me in it...

Yup, you are listed as being a rumourmonger.

Also to note when discussing Missions of State, it does contain an adventure partially written by our very own MJD.

 

[jchurchill]

"Milieu 0 is very British, somehow."
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Maybe that was the appeal.

TNE's dark underbelly so far has been much less appealing. I recently got the Regency Sourcebook and have trouble staying awake through it. Too many bad jokes and painful artwork. I know this is heresy and will drive people beserk but almost all the artwork after the LBB was so painful that all I can think is how much better all these supplements would be without the artwork [with very few exceptions here and there]

 

[jchurchill]

"Milieu 0 is very British, somehow."
==========================================
Maybe that was the appeal.

TNE's dark underbelly so far has been much less appealing. I recently got the Regency Sourcebook and have trouble staying awake through it. Too many bad jokes and painful artwork. I know this is heresy and will drive people beserk but almost all the artwork after the LBB was so painful that all I can think is how much better all these supplements would be without the artwork [with very few exceptions here and there]

 

[jchurchill]

PS,

some egregious examples:

MT Players handbook -- Wal-Mart versions of the Star Wars Imperial Sromtroopers attacking a starship manned by the band Flock of Seagulls.

MT Rebellion Sourcebook -- Some models from the International Male catalogue break the "don't ask, don't tell" policy and join the military.

Gunfights involving a dog dressed as a doorman from the Ritz Carlton and his pet human who strangely reminds me of my car mechanic.

I know that I'm in the minority here and sorry to all the aspiring artists who drew this stuff.

 

[jchurchill]

PS,

some egregious examples:

MT Players handbook -- Wal-Mart versions of the Star Wars Imperial Sromtroopers attacking a starship manned by the band Flock of Seagulls.

MT Rebellion Sourcebook -- Some models from the International Male catalogue break the "don't ask, don't tell" policy and join the military.

Gunfights involving a dog dressed as a doorman from the Ritz Carlton and his pet human who strangely reminds me of my car mechanic.

I know that I'm in the minority here and sorry to all the aspiring artists who drew this stuff.

 

[kaladorn]

Here here! Let's hear it for no art where the art is distracting (T4 comes strongly to mind!). Hey, but don't be dissing the Paranoia Vulture Trooper-esque battle dress boys taking on the chicks with ARs.... (whereas anyone who has played Striker, AHL, or even basic MT will know that this is a pretty short fight and the chicks get whacked....).

When I was hearing someone above talk about sending in forces to change unpalitable governments, oddly, I didn't immediately think of the English... (and so soften that bit of pointed humour, let me add I hope they head North early on as I find our current gov't quite unpalatable and suitable for replacement at their earliest convenience!)

I'm not sure I agree with you about the Vargr... but only because we had Admiral Arrgh (an 08 retired from the Engineering Branch of the Reserve Fleet). He was a tough old Dog and outlived most of the human players in a 14 real-month long game involving vast amounts of treachery, the rebellion, the Solomani and the far tip of Gateway/Glimmerdrift reaches.... so the Dog dressed as a doorman isn't far from my image of dear old Arrgh.

But I too happen to like the LBBs. And I'm a fan of line art for ships and vehicles... pencil drawings are infinitely preferable to the full colour eyesores in T4.

BTW - Hello to all. Been gone to long. Might be gone again for a while, but I miss the place. And a big Hi to Agent!

 

[kaladorn]

Here here! Let's hear it for no art where the art is distracting (T4 comes strongly to mind!). Hey, but don't be dissing the Paranoia Vulture Trooper-esque battle dress boys taking on the chicks with ARs.... (whereas anyone who has played Striker, AHL, or even basic MT will know that this is a pretty short fight and the chicks get whacked....).

When I was hearing someone above talk about sending in forces to change unpalitable governments, oddly, I didn't immediately think of the English... (and so soften that bit of pointed humour, let me add I hope they head North early on as I find our current gov't quite unpalatable and suitable for replacement at their earliest convenience!)

I'm not sure I agree with you about the Vargr... but only because we had Admiral Arrgh (an 08 retired from the Engineering Branch of the Reserve Fleet). He was a tough old Dog and outlived most of the human players in a 14 real-month long game involving vast amounts of treachery, the rebellion, the Solomani and the far tip of Gateway/Glimmerdrift reaches.... so the Dog dressed as a doorman isn't far from my image of dear old Arrgh.

But I too happen to like the LBBs. And I'm a fan of line art for ships and vehicles... pencil drawings are infinitely preferable to the full colour eyesores in T4.

BTW - Hello to all. Been gone to long. Might be gone again for a while, but I miss the place. And a big Hi to Agent!

 

[signless]

I realize I'm about to get kicked out of the "Old Fart Sci-Fi Club", but I really, really, really don't like the artwork of Chris Foss. As a matter of fact, it made buying T4 and excersize in sheer willpower. I actually took the book to the counter of my FLGS, and then walked it BACK TO THE RACK because the artwork bugged me so much. *shiver*

 

[signless]

I realize I'm about to get kicked out of the "Old Fart Sci-Fi Club", but I really, really, really don't like the artwork of Chris Foss. As a matter of fact, it made buying T4 and excersize in sheer willpower. I actually took the book to the counter of my FLGS, and then walked it BACK TO THE RACK because the artwork bugged me so much. *shiver*

 

[Malenfant]

I love Foss' work myself (I have many of the TTA books that his work appeared in). I just didn't have a clue what the hell it was doing in Traveller

 

[Malenfant]

I love Foss' work myself (I have many of the TTA books that his work appeared in). I just didn't have a clue what the hell it was doing in Traveller

 

[Ben W Bell]

I liek Chris Foss' work as well, and have several of his art books. However, saying that I don't believe it is at all suitable for Traveller.

 

[Ben W Bell]

I liek Chris Foss' work as well, and have several of his art books. However, saying that I don't believe it is at all suitable for Traveller.

 

[Malenfant]

Now, if he'd actually been commissioned to draw some Traveller ships in the Traveller universe, then that would have been awesome

.

But he wasn't, and they just used random pictures instead

It's a pity, because his art style is right out of the 70s scifi genre.

 

[Malenfant]

Now, if he'd actually been commissioned to draw some Traveller ships in the Traveller universe, then that would have been awesome

.

But he wasn't, and they just used random pictures instead

It's a pity, because his art style is right out of the 70s scifi genre.