Which Enterprise do you like best?
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I liked the NX-01 because of its functionality and the feel of like being in a submarine. If the ship was real, I would definately would like to work in it. While the D was pretty powerful, however, I didn't like it because of the fact that during the series there were too many civilians and children living in it. If I was a Captain, I would not put any civilians unless they worked in critical duties such as engineering, security or medical departments. Then again, that's just me.
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I'll always have fondest regards for the original enterprise, as she was a real trailblazer and others are just imitations. When they were doing TOS, a lot of thought went into the enterprise design, and they really worked at making it plausible, from warp drive to the deflector to the idea of seperatable sections, the ship was really a huge leap in SF engineering, and not just "something that looked cool",
Everything else stood on her shoulders.
I never liked the D, the saucer was too big and not circular, the engines too small and the whole thing looked too aerodynamic and abstract. That said I did not like the way dick vermin destroyed her, as a symbolic bulldozing of Roddenberry's vision after he died so he could replace it with his own.
Trek really went to hell after GR died, with "The jeri ryan show" officially turning it from anything resembling SF and intelligent programming to "baywatch in space".
The new movie went way too far to piss on classic trek continuity, and as an almost symbolic bit the dye job on the green orion girl in it looked far less believable than the very first green orion girl we saw in "the cage" over 40 years ago...
That said the new enterprise was OK.
Everything else stood on her shoulders.
I never liked the D, the saucer was too big and not circular, the engines too small and the whole thing looked too aerodynamic and abstract. That said I did not like the way dick vermin destroyed her, as a symbolic bulldozing of Roddenberry's vision after he died so he could replace it with his own.
Trek really went to hell after GR died, with "The jeri ryan show" officially turning it from anything resembling SF and intelligent programming to "baywatch in space".
The new movie went way too far to piss on classic trek continuity, and as an almost symbolic bit the dye job on the green orion girl in it looked far less believable than the very first green orion girl we saw in "the cage" over 40 years ago...
That said the new enterprise was OK.
New Trek Movie
Saw it on the IMAX Dome here in Tampa and in a regular theater. The Dome was very enjoyable as long as its action with minimal closeups.
I still seem to be the only one preferring the B. Now pic is gone.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e7/USS_Enterprise-B_in_drydock.jpg
Saw it on the IMAX Dome here in Tampa and in a regular theater. The Dome was very enjoyable as long as its action with minimal closeups.
I still seem to be the only one preferring the B. Now pic is gone.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e7/USS_Enterprise-B_in_drydock.jpg
I didn't vote for NCC-1701 herself because she's in a class all by herself. She set the now iconic shape and look of Trek vessels, everything that followed is merely a variation on her theme. She shouldn't be part of the poll because she's beyond the poll.
I did vote for NX-01. That version simply seems more "real" to me both internally and externally.
All those others from the movie-version 1701 to the movie-version ST:TNG vessels seem more unreal, especially given how they become more elongated and more streamlined. Of the late versions, I liked the Wrath of Khan version best perhaps because she was damaged thus seeming more "real" and disliked the TNG TV version which always seemed "hydrocephalic" to me.
I saw thus summer's Trek movie twice and while I didn't react as viscerally as my companions in both viewings - they loathed it - I enjoyed the movie more as a "summer blockbuster" and less as "Star Trek". I did dislike the ship in several levels however. First, they seemed to have crossed Enterprise with the Tardis. Second, engine rooms do not look like breweries. I love both, but they are different things. Third, the bridge of a starship shouldn't look like the perfume counter in the J.C. Penny down at the mall.
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Bill
I did vote for NX-01. That version simply seems more "real" to me both internally and externally.
All those others from the movie-version 1701 to the movie-version ST:TNG vessels seem more unreal, especially given how they become more elongated and more streamlined. Of the late versions, I liked the Wrath of Khan version best perhaps because she was damaged thus seeming more "real" and disliked the TNG TV version which always seemed "hydrocephalic" to me.
I saw thus summer's Trek movie twice and while I didn't react as viscerally as my companions in both viewings - they loathed it - I enjoyed the movie more as a "summer blockbuster" and less as "Star Trek". I did dislike the ship in several levels however. First, they seemed to have crossed Enterprise with the Tardis. Second, engine rooms do not look like breweries. I love both, but they are different things. Third, the bridge of a starship shouldn't look like the perfume counter in the J.C. Penny down at the mall.
Regards,
Bill
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I couldn't agree more brewery it was and why they didn't use something more fitting is beyond me. Perhaps unimaginative sets at best.
That being said. In IMAX Dome it was a lot of fun.
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Since we're getting derailed into a discussion about the last trek movie (Spoilers) Here's what I didn't like about it: (Spoilers again for the thinking impaired.)
First, WTF was it with destroying vulcan, and this whole "destroy a long established world" bit anyway? I mean, they did it on the dr. who reboot, not ST destroys vulcan. What's up with this whole "shiva" thing anyway?
The new transporter. Let's see now, scotty can now beam people from planet to planet, and onto a ship traveling at warp. Sheesh, who needs starships now? And if he can beam stiff onto ships, why not just beam a damn photon torpedo onto nero's ship with a 2 second delay?
and WTF is it with taking intelligent, capable, compentent technically minds people and turning them into spasmastic dorks? The way scotty was done in the new movie was stupid and offensive to anyone with any technical expertise.
First, WTF was it with destroying vulcan, and this whole "destroy a long established world" bit anyway? I mean, they did it on the dr. who reboot, not ST destroys vulcan. What's up with this whole "shiva" thing anyway?
The new transporter. Let's see now, scotty can now beam people from planet to planet, and onto a ship traveling at warp. Sheesh, who needs starships now? And if he can beam stiff onto ships, why not just beam a damn photon torpedo onto nero's ship with a 2 second delay?
and WTF is it with taking intelligent, capable, compentent technically minds people and turning them into spasmastic dorks? The way scotty was done in the new movie was stupid and offensive to anyone with any technical expertise.
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