Was the "what does jumpspace look like" ever settled?
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Technobabble is not science
Which is why my stars streak as you look outside the window to see the splendor that is the cosmos (or Milky Way part of it).
Technobabble is not science
Jeez! I looked it up on Wiki:
"...a metastable sector of space that appears to be a perturbative vacuum, but is unstable due to instanton effects that may tunnel to a lower energy state. This tunneling can be caused by quantum fluctuations or the creation of high-energy particles. Simply put, the false vacuum is a local minimum, but not the lowest energy state, even though it may remain stable for some time. This is analogous to metastability for first-order phase transitions."
o: It STILL sounds like technobabble. I don't even want to BEGIN to think about the math involved! (Shudder!)
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Omnivore
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The more quantum physics you read, the more it sounds like technobabble. Actually... the more it sounds like *bad* technobabble! :rofl:
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Geeze, I'm posting a dozen things tonight, when I should finishing off some formal writing. Ah well.
Don't get me started on "Star Trek, the Next Generation". One of the worst shows ever created and known to mankind in terms of real human values. The technobabble was just the icing on the cake for me. It was a real bait and switch of a TV series, and then to throw faux-science on top of it, that was just too much for me to take.
The remote spoke volumes for me; "click".... followed by either snow, the news or Mystery Science Theatre 3000.
Yeah, you use tech speak to move the story and get the audience clued in, you don't use it to add atmosphere. If you do, then maybe your story isn't so great. It's like shooting a b-flick with first class cinematography; it looks great, but it's still garbage.
Don't get me started on "Star Trek, the Next Generation". One of the worst shows ever created and known to mankind in terms of real human values. The technobabble was just the icing on the cake for me. It was a real bait and switch of a TV series, and then to throw faux-science on top of it, that was just too much for me to take.
The remote spoke volumes for me; "click".... followed by either snow, the news or Mystery Science Theatre 3000.
Yeah, you use tech speak to move the story and get the audience clued in, you don't use it to add atmosphere. If you do, then maybe your story isn't so great. It's like shooting a b-flick with first class cinematography; it looks great, but it's still garbage.
Icosahedron
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As a Referee, I follow the 'Miranda Principle' - anything you say may be taken down and used in evidence against you.
I tend not to use any technobabble or even real science descriptions if I can avoid it. There's always some joker who comes up with "but last week you said that..."
Unfortunately, sometimes you can't avoid it, but you can minimise it. Black boxes rule.
I tend not to use any technobabble or even real science descriptions if I can avoid it. There's always some joker who comes up with "but last week you said that..."
Unfortunately, sometimes you can't avoid it, but you can minimise it. Black boxes rule.
If there really are flashings and shadowy movements of anything that can be seen in jumpspace, then that'd mean data was being transmitted between j-space and the ship in jump. This implies that it should be possible to communicate with whatever those flashings/shadows are, or at least gain real and useful information about the nature of j-space.
I say it looks to be whitenoise. Any flashing/shadows are caused by....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voice_phenomenon
I say it looks to be whitenoise. Any flashing/shadows are caused by....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voice_phenomenon
Andrew Boulton
The Adminator
"I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics."
- Richard Feynman
Had a play:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZXld21Wrsk&feature=youtu.be
- Richard Feynman
Had a play:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZXld21Wrsk&feature=youtu.be
Jeez! I looked it up on Wiki:
"...a metastable sector of space that appears to be a perturbative vacuum, but is unstable due to instanton effects that may tunnel to a lower energy state. This tunneling can be caused by quantum fluctuations or the creation of high-energy particles. Simply put, the false vacuum is a local minimum, but not the lowest energy state, even though it may remain stable for some time. This is analogous to metastability for first-order phase transitions."
That is science fiction for you, start with science and use inferencial logic until you wind up in fiction.
Well, I rather liked John Lambert's stereoscopic take on j-space. In fact, I liked it so much I got permission to use it for the "Jump Space" entry in my Library Data, here:
members.tip.net.au/~davidjw/libdata/alphabet/j/jumpspac.htm
members.tip.net.au/~davidjw/libdata/alphabet/j/jumpspac.htm
That is science fiction for you, start with science and use inferencial logic until you wind up in fiction.
Now, that's an interesting quote.
I'll remember that.
Would that be the Carmen Miranda principle?As a Referee, I follow the 'Miranda Principle' - anything you say may be taken down and used in evidence against you.
I tend not to use any technobabble or even real science descriptions if I can avoid it. There's always some joker who comes up with "but last week you said that..."
Unfortunately, sometimes you can't avoid it, but you can minimise it. Black boxes rule.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqi3WYlnKQ0
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Icosahedron
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Er, no thanks, you can keep her, it would be the Ernesto Miranda principle.
As a Referee, I follow the 'Miranda Principle' - anything you say may be taken down and used in evidence against you.
I tend not to use any technobabble or even real science descriptions if I can avoid it. There's always some joker who comes up with "but last week you said that..."
Unfortunately, sometimes you can't avoid it, but you can minimise it. Black boxes rule.
Actually, I think the Miranda something is for the accused's rights - e.g. "You have the right to remain silent." (though what you said goes along with that, albeit in a different form
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Andrew Boulton
The Adminator
Now, that's an interesting quote.
To paraphrase Andrew's post earlier:
"I think it's safe to say that no one understands jump mechanics."
-Eenri Perihelion
Er, no thanks, you can keep her, it would be the Ernesto Miranda principle.
I kind of figured, but let's all have a gander a the Lady in the Tutti Frutti hat anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLsTUN1wVrc
sayatmenace
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IMTU. FWIW, there is nothing. If you use the hydrogen jump bubble module, then outside it, passive sensors receive nothing. Active sensors receive nothing back.
There is something out there, right?
Nothing that Known Space has ever contrived has found a way of getting a signal back from.
It's death, it's zero, it's nothingness like nothing Known Space has been able to conceive of.
Still. It's a thing.
Perhaps a thing which a thing in Known Space is, by definition, incapable of conceiving of.
Sugar pellets on your left! YOUR OTHER LEFT! RUN, RUN, RUN!!!
There is something out there, right?
Nothing that Known Space has ever contrived has found a way of getting a signal back from.
It's death, it's zero, it's nothingness like nothing Known Space has been able to conceive of.
Still. It's a thing.
Perhaps a thing which a thing in Known Space is, by definition, incapable of conceiving of.
Sugar pellets on your left! YOUR OTHER LEFT! RUN, RUN, RUN!!!
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