Was the "what does jumpspace look like" ever settled?

[far-trader]

The even older starship captain finishes his brew and chimes in...

"Feh, there's nothin to see out there, just grey fog thick enough to cut rolling by the hull. Sometimes you get a little St. Enerii's Fire or occasionally it will light with some colours. Most everyone always wants to look at it, first time in jump anyway. Mostly I keep the blast shields down and the portal vids showing streaking stars, that's what most pax expect to see so why disappoint. Seein things in the fog is just your imagination...

...or you haven't got your jump capacitor mounts properly insulated with real Coyns under the bolt flanges :smirk:

 

[Rigel Stardin]

The old spacer looks the older Captain. “Now that’s just plain hogwash! If you want to insulate your jump capacitors everyone with half a brain knows to uses tin foil! The little beasties don’t know what to make of it!”

 

[Blue Ghost]

It looks like music smells

Many people steal Niven's blindspot - you're trying to focus on something that doesn't obey our laws of physics, and it makes your brain want to crawl out your ears. A minute or so will give you a headache, too long will drive you insane. Same goes (canonically) for getting too close to the field.

IMTU, psionics are worse affected (and sometimes they hear things...). Also, viewing it remotely or on recordings just shows static.

Like an ice-cream head-rush...got it.

 

[Blue Ghost]

I kind of like it too look like a mid-90's rave vide or some music player visualisation - lots of bright palette fractal things, infinite morphing vistas in constant motion etc. Maybe the hint of something looking at you now and then. Different every time you see it, different for each observer. Pretty, but not the sort of things that cause casualties.

Could go the boring route and just have it as a photoneg of real space, I suppose.

As you look out the window to glimpse the alternate reality of jumpspace, you see.... THIS;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LGU9RKC-u0

Or.... THIS;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3KvuPLhC5U

 

[77topaz]

The even older starship captain finishes his brew and chimes in...

"Feh, there's nothin to see out there, just grey fog thick enough to cut rolling by the hull. Sometimes you get a little St. Enerii's Fire or occasionally it will light with some colours. Most everyone always wants to look at it, first time in jump anyway. Mostly I keep the blast shields down and the portal vids showing streaking stars, that's what most pax expect to see so why disappoint. Seein things in the fog is just your imagination...

...or you haven't got your jump capacitor mounts properly insulated with real Coyns under the bolt flanges :smirk:

You mean St. Elmo's fire?
(You need an atmosphere for that...)
(or would Enerii be the Vilani translation for Elmo?)

 

[77topaz]

"I'm not worryed about that old Droyne looking at me." The old starship Captain states to the patrons at bar. "It's those damn gremlins on the wings that do more damage to my ship than that old geezer."

You mean like in "The Twilight Zone"?

 

[far-trader]

You mean St. Elmo's fire?
(You need an atmosphere for that...)
(or would Enerii be the Vilani translation for Elmo?)

The made up comparative to describe a similar effect that happens in jumpspace... strictly a MTU invention though ...I think, might have "borrowed" it from somewhere and forgotten the origins.

I don't think Enerii would be the Viliani version of Elmo, might be though I just use (blame) Enerii for everything and anything. And he's long been my Kilroy* in Traveller, which may also be a "borrowed" concept if not original.

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilroy_was_here

 

[Rigel Stardin]

You mean like in "The Twilight Zone"?

correct

 

[Andrew Boulton]

Yaskoydray?

Gesundheit.

 

[Blue Ghost]

Gesundheit.

Domo-arigatto.

 

[77topaz]

Gesundheit.

Domo-arigatto.

What are you getting at, exactly? "Yaskoydray" is a sneeze? I mean Grandfather the Droyne.

 

[Andrew Boulton]

What are you getting at, exactly? "Yaskoydray" is a sneeze? I mean Grandfather the Droyne.

Sorry, just a little joke. Or not

Move along, nothing to see here...

 

[Magnus von Thornwood]

Ah, lovely Jumpspace..

Well, as noted earlier there is a picture in T5 of what Jumpspace looks like, which for the most part is pretty much what I figured it looks like.

Problem is the picture is a 2D still picture so it misses the roiling, seething action of jumpspace. The grey shot through with the occasional creepy, mind defying, not of this world colors and the ominous, mind eating, yet subtle feeling of "It's trying to get in and eat us!". All seen through the thin, pulsating, always lovely Cherenkov blue of the Jump Field (be it a bubble or the hull hugging grid). It has been compared to a bad trip on LSD overlaid on a living sponge like grey void.

Though some claim to see "things", echoes of lost ships, and the souls of the marooned, most folks think they are crazy.

And yes, I agree using Psionics to look outside the safety of the Jump Field can do very bad things to the user. For those without Psionics the weirdness of Jumpspace is said to awaken a latent Psionic if they find themselves too close to Jumpspace even if they are protected by the Jump Field. Like say if they ended up on the outside of the hull but inside the JF for a while. They also tend to be a bit off after that.

Of course there are those who find Jumpspace a beautiful sight and claim to have the feeling of "touching the Divine", but that is cultists for you.

And that is my take on Jumpspace.

Laterness,
Craig.

 

[Dragoner]

I'm thinking that picture is of something else, just photoshopped, which isn't such a good thing.

 

[Whipsnade]

What are you getting at, exactly? "Yaskoydray" is a sneeze? I mean Grandfather the Droyne.

It's a riff on an old vaudeville routine. You may have seen the Marx Brothers do it in a few of their movies. Then again, maybe you haven't.

Anyway, the comics toss personal and place names back and forth, names which sound outlandish or vaguely absurd in English. After 3 or 4 such names, one of the comics says Gesundheit as if the other had sneezed.

 

[77topaz]

I'm thinking that picture is of something else, just photoshopped, which isn't such a good thing.

What do you mean?
(Note: I haven't seen the picture concerned)

 

[Icosahedron]

I'm with Dragoner. IMTU Jump space is black. Jump space is a pocket universe in which your ship is all-that-exists. Therefore there is nothing 'out there' to glow, and there may not even be an 'out there' for something to glow in (since space may be defined as the extent between two or more points, is there any space in a universe that contains only one object?).
Extreme claustrophobia could be what makes some people go mad if they look out and think about the situation.

For the OTU, see T5, apparently.

As a side issue, I once did a calculation to figure how fast you'd need to be travelling to see stars 'streak'. I forget the figures now, but I reckoned you'd pass through the galaxy in a few minutes at that speed. Relativity would impose its own brand of strangeness on your porthole view long before you saw star streaks.
Falls in the same category as dreadnoughts 'rumbling' past...

 

[Dragoner]

What do you mean?
(Note: I haven't seen the picture concerned)

I would post it here, but I guess it's super secret squirrel. I just don't like distorted pictures of what I don't know, it is creepy.

 

[Dragoner]

I'm with Dragoner. IMTU Jump space is black. Jump space is a pocket universe in which your ship is all-that-exists. Therefore there is nothing 'out there' to glow, and there may not even be an 'out there' for something to glow in (since space may be defined as the extent between two or more points, is there any space in a universe that contains only one object?).
Extreme claustrophobia could be what makes some people go mad if they look out and think about the situation.

For the OTU, see T5, apparently.

As a side issue, I once did a calculation to figure how fast you'd need to be travelling to see stars 'streak'. I forget the figures now, but I reckoned you'd pass through the galaxy in a few minutes at that speed. Relativity would impose its own brand of strangeness on your porthole view long before you saw star streaks.
Falls in the same category as dreadnoughts 'rumbling' past...

I like my jump and m-drive to have a little more science behind them, so a "jump" is a false vacuum metastability event and m-drives are Magnetoplasmadynamic thrusters. So looking out a viewscreen (pothole pshaw) you would only see the utter black of nothing as the child universe doesn't have anything other than the ship as it is temporary creation.

 

[mike wightman]

Technobabble is not science