Personal communicators

[Peter Schutze]

>wouldn't an EMP pulse that can fry an implant hurt as it gets hot?

hot as in nuke blast effects ?

it is possible to create EMP without nukes. EMP causes damage by creating a charge surge in electrical circuits,

most likely any EMP pulse that affected small solid state circuitry like a implanted phone powered by your body would be also be strong enough to EMP you .... knocking you down just like a taser hit. Electrocution of any form ..... like a taser hit would have just as much chance of destroying that kind of tiny device .... probably miniscule <added> especially if FF&S explosive power generator cartridges become common as ammo. These EPG's could act as very localised (1m) EMP blasts .... add in the fields involved in MHD and Fusion power ..... most implant hardware would be protected as a matter of course.<end added>

 

[Gadrin]

You might find this interesting...
http://web.archive.org/web/20070312...maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/kopp/apjemp.html

 

[Ishmael]

>wouldn't an EMP pulse that can fry an implant hurt as it gets hot?

hot as in nuke blast effects ?

nope...hot as in heated by induced current
I once put a pager in a microwave ( I was pissed at management...)
it sparked and caught fire
( they blamed me but I said it got fried from a short circuit when it fell into a flooded junction box )

 

[DaveChase]

Metal detectors:
How sensity are they, as sensitive as you want to crank them up to and only across the area of the scan envelope.
Some of the newer detectors have a floor that you walk over to detect things in your feet.
The type of material and ammount/mass of the material will also register differently or set the detector off.

There are some metals that unless the detector is set up high just dont set them off.

Also even when xrayed and looked at by most individuals there are shapes and placement of some 'metal' items that unless you are extremely trained or are actually looking for such an item you will not notice or realize it is metal or what its function is.

Nope, I am not talking James Bond type stuff. It is very simple everyday type things that can be used as such.

But back on subject. Maybe we can determine what tech level certain types of small, personal communication devices are and have that added to the Traveller Tech level guide.

Dave Chase

 

[Plankowner]

I have an artificial knee and a card from my doctor that I carry when I set off metal detectors, which only happens about 1/2 the time...

 

[atpollard]

I have an artificial knee and a card from my doctor that I carry when I set off metal detectors, which only happens about 1/2 the time...

Travelleresque Question:
Do you find that handy for smuggling weapons into High Law Level areas?

 

[Peter Schutze]

>nope...hot as in heated by induced current

the induced current from an emp blast is very transient .... although realistically there may be several transient spikes arriving from different points during the fraction of a second induced currents are racing around eg the machine's internal componentry / its casing / power cords

your pager in the microwave during that first 1/100th of a second MAY have been screwed already, especially if the microwave is one of the stronger models

I doubt there would have been a noticable temperature affect for at least the first 1/4 second though .... probably a few seconds would have been needed for you to feel the change by touch

 

[Ishmael]

ok..I was thinking along the lines of a HERF gun
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I wonder if trav capacitors pop like the ones I have to deal with sometimes.
shady manufacturers might not be exactly forthcoming on details of their product. Maybe a popped cap , although veryvery tiny might release something toxic.

Troubleshooter must investigate a rash of strange illnesses....corporate wants to silence any bad publicity of the prodcut using any means neccessary.....

 

[far-trader]

...I wonder if trav capacitors pop like the ones I have to deal with sometimes.

Heh, there's some very big suspected cases of this happening.

Like the loss of a frontier cruiser when the black globe it was operating 'failed spectacularly'. Most likely the capacitors, those bits every jump drive has, blew when overloaded. And I'm not talking "pop" but "BOOOOOOM" because those puppies hold a lot of charge.

 

[Gadrin]

implanted comms....

imagine trying to explain why your body keeps setting off the metal detectors at a low tech starport/backwards world.

imagine waking up to find implanted comm that is linked to an implanted bomb to blackmail/extort players...or to use them as unwitting suicide bomber.

imagine impanted comm being used somehow to 'hack' any cyborg enhancements
...or as a 'modem' to 'hack' someone's ghost or wetware ( cyber manchuraian candidate)

or being given assignment to abduct and 'tag' primitives with implants and do medical tests involving icky probes

wouldn't an EMP pulse that can fry an implant hurt as it gets hot?
would it let toxics into the body if it fails catastrophicly?...or short circuit stuff causing a spastic episode?

just rambling a bit

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