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Parts for an AHL

Antony

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This section has been quiet for a little while so...

In the Banners Sector an AHL (Cause Rampant to be precise) has been recovered by the Alston League. Unfortunately no imperial naval bases exist within this sector and Alstons A class port is only rated to TL11 for new construction.

In the post virus era (1201 Imp) how would parts for this ship be acquired or built. Obviously much of the ship is still TL14 with electronics and weapon systems upgraded to TL15. Would the ship be sent (with a skeleton crew) into the old imperium looking for parts (an epic adventure). Or would another ship be sent to scout out first?

Did I mention that the ships computer has a similar limited AI to that of the old Kinunir?

Or would the ship be broken up by Alston for parts?

What do people think?
 
The maneuver drive is no problem, TL11 can manufacture new parts for that.

Is the jump drive still functional or would it have to be replaced for a while with a J2 drive?

What state are the weapon systems in?

The power plant is a problem as well.

It could be more reasonable to canibalise what you can to build a TL11 vessel with whatever higher tech stuff is still working and can be integrated. Keep the hulk, though. Once you have the spare parts from your salvage mission then you could rebuild the Cause Rampant
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IM TNE TU refiting ships is an engineering art. There is no reason to assume (except where size is important) that older parts could not be retrofitted. Its easier to go up tech than down.

As Sigg was eluding. To give you input we really need to understand the condition of the vessel. Is it infected by virus (blow it up), did it have 1-100% battledamage, or a maintenance failure.

I doubt the hulk would be completely stripped. It could be a fine orbital base.


Savage
 
Not knowing the condition of the vessel. I would believe it would be retro fitted with TL11 equipment to get it working now. :cool:
But any salvage workable equipment that is found may be flaged for later up grades to the ship if this is the biggist ship the Alston League has.
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You could probably cannalbalise TL14 backup elec systems from the AHL or from other TL14 sources (derlict ships, salvage etc.) This should give you a TL14 main system, may be a TL14 backup and then fill in the tertiary system with TL11 stuff.

Weapons - do the same, gives you some TL14 weapons, some TL14 spares, some TL11 weapons.

M drive is okay. Power plant - see what spares you can find - according to High Guard a TL13 PP will do. Jump drive is pure Tl14.

Do you send it on a mission? How good is its drive and power systems? But why send them all the way to the Imperium. There should be TL14 worlds in the sector you can find salvage on. Even the Solomani sphere had common equipment with the imperium upto and into the Autonomous Region Era - you may get some compatable spares.

I don't think the AHL has enough cargo space for meaningful spares recovery - not enough room for a recovered J drive.

Cheers
Richard
 
If an AHL is infected with Virus I think it is you who will be blown up, not it!
Depends on several factors
1. TL11 assets are available
2. the condition of the AHL
3. the type of virus in control

-The Regency probably stopped many capital ships.
-Virus doesn't always make the best commander, per
vampire fleets.


Savage
 
Originally posted by Elliot:
If an AHL is infected with Virus I think it is you who will be blown up, not it!
Highly unlikely. The given premise says that it is found, presumably as a derelict. Therefore, it probably has completely run out of fuel and can't do much, if anything at all.

Care should be taken during the restart, of course, but as found it probably isn't overly dangerous. (Notice I didn't say "safe".)
 
This is the data I provided to my players regarading the Cause Rampant

Cause Rampant (FI-6412, later CF-6412)
Laid down 360-1002 Gashidda No. 2 Yard
First flight 106-1005
Transferred to fleet auxiliary 1048 and used as a fleet tanker/bulk carrier
Refurbished into frontier cruiser
Conversion begun 321-1084
Returned to duty 005-1086
Refit 135 to 270-1088
Refit included fitting an ISMM Model 7.3 on-board computer system with multiple input stations and limited AI with fibre-optic back-up network.

Refit 014 to 165-1102
Refit included removal of failed black globe generator and strengthening of forward decks to allow for less hazardous fuel-skimming operations.

Data in computer includes data on Solomani Rim, Magyar, Dark Nebula, Ustral Quadrant, Canopus and Hanstone sectors. (Data for Hanstone is incomplete.) This includes navigation and clearance codes for imperial naval bases and the imperial naval depots in the Daibei, Diaspora and Solomani Rim sectors.

Lost on operations in 1103 fate unknown

This is what I decided happened to the vessel

The Cause Rampant was assigned to the 96th Fleet based in the imperial portion of the Magyar sector. The jump-5 capability of the vessel keeping the cruiser in service despite its age. This resulted in the vessel being chosen for a series of missions into the Dark Nebula, Ustral Quadrant, Canopus and Hanstone sectors.

1. Transport the imperial ambassador and entourage to Kusyu in the Aslan Hierate. This route was chosen as the appointed ambassador was coming from the Solomani Rim sector. This involved crossing the Solomani Confederation border and transiting Confederation Space. The Confederation had granted grudging permission for this transit.
2a. Proceed via Aslan space into the Ustral Quadrant spreading imperial good will to both the Aslan client states and independent systems.
2b. Promote pro imperial feeling and support against the Solomani on worlds likely to be receptive.
3. Enter the Canopus and Hanstone sectors, Promote pro imperial feeling and support against the Solomani on worlds likely to be receptive. Particularly the multi-system states of the Trita Brotherhood and Jurisdiction of Nadon in the Canopus sector and the Fteiheiel Oih (Aslan) and the Council of Heads in the Hanstone sector.
4. Investigate the problems the Solomani Confederation is having which are limiting expansion in the Rimward sectors.

The Cause Rampant successfully arrived at Kusyu in the Aslan Hierate, safely delivering the imperial ambassador and entourage.

The vessel also successfully transited through the Ustral Quadrant making a number of potentially valuable contacts.

In the non- Solomani portion of the Canopus sector the Cause Rampant was unexpectedly attacked by the Solomani “High Justice” class battleship “Ultimate Victory” Early in the engagement the Cause Rampant sustained a bridge hit rendering the captain unconscious…(The player sometimes thinks his character is Dillon Hunt of the Andromeda)

...The ships AI (not as limited as its designers intended) decided it would like to survive and engaged the jump drive resulting in a massive misjump. The ship did sustain some damage both because of the combat and the misjump. The ship was found ninety odd years later drifting in an asteroid belt with no crew on board (save the captain who was in a medical cold berth). Its condition when found was - the power plant was still operating at minimal levels fuel almost exhausted. The ships maintenance droids had repaired the bulk of the damage sustained by the jump drive though there was insufficient fuel to activate it again. Some compartments were sealed off because of damage that could not be repaired without more parts (the ships on-board stocks having been exhausted).

The ships computer logs show that the remainder of the crew abandoned ship taking all the small craft and fuel shuttles with them.

The jump drive when examined was found to be operational and Alston does have some TL14 parts available from an old Regal class battlecruiser used as the orbital starport of Alston.
 
Looks like you have the repair thing under control.
Of course you know that if you need plans for the AHL you can get them off of http://www.farfuture.net/

Also, go all of the way. Give him parts for an avatar. IMTU just before the collapse a process
had been started to upgrade all depots and capital
vessels to include an Avatar. Its great fun.

Savage
 
I fancy the idea of Virus lying dormant until the
ship is partially restored, that is no offensive
weapons...except internal security systems slowly
becoming activated.
Now That's a horror story adventure!
 
Yes Yes Yes

Perhaps the ships computers were all burnt out in a desperate attempt to kill the Virus - but an egg survives in an ancillary system that does not become conscious until much later on in the campaign.

That would really upset the players.

I always thought of the Virus of a large battlecruiser to be like the baddie in the old Williams arcade game Sinistar - Insane with a deep voice saying words like 'Alive, Alive', 'I hunger' and 'Beware Coward' - that would be pretty scary.

Actually - the conceit of Sinistar = that the aliens are making the Sinistar from mining parts of asteroids and the player is trying to stop them is a cool TNE scenarion. Cyborg 'commandos' rebuilding the battlecruiser could replace the aliens.
 
Nah. If you really want to be an evil GM, then you let the AHL be clean. No virus whatsoever.

However, some of the replacement equipment added by the players is infected, thereby slowly infecting the rest of the ship.

That way, not only do the players have to deal with a massive ship that slowly turns on them, but they have to deal with the idea that they did this to themselves.

But is only works if the GM is evil.
 
Some good ideas there. I also like the idea I had of having the Solomani dreadnought "Ultimate Victory" also surviving the collapse (probably as a virus) which has made its "life" work the hunting down of the Cause Rampant (the one that got away).

By the way the Cause Rampant's AI calls herself Sigrid, and she seems to have stopped responding to command overrides she does not like.
 
Anthony

The biggest problem for your AHL is lack of fuel shuttles, The AHL is not really designed for repeated gas gaint refuelling. Guess whay Alstons shipyards will be building next.

Cheers
Richard
 
The Arrival Vengeance and the Bard Refuge were modified to allow for unlimited fuel skimming from gas giants.
Provided that the Cause Rampant has been similarly upgraded you should be OK.
Mind you, she is a lot older now...
 
Originally posted by Antony:
By the way the Cause Rampant's AI calls herself Sigrid, and she seems to have stopped responding to command overrides she does not like.
I hadn't thought of that. But instead of having a "normal" Virus infest the Rampant, just have a "partial" infection, thereby making the AI truly sentient.

Then, instead of the ship trying to kill the players, it is instead a full NPC that the players must negotiate. A much more survivable, though more frustrating, situation.
 
I prefer sending them onto a ship where the computer room was completely obliterated in combat and letting them wonder if its a virus ship.


Savage
 
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