Explaining the Aslan conquest

[daryen]

Originally posted by alanb:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />The result of all of this freaked out the Duke of Tobia. Seeing the Aslan on the move, and the Domain completely preoccupied with the (in his mind) irrelevant Zhodani, he brokered his own deal with the Aslan, resulting in much of the Domain territory in the Trojan Reaches "joining" the Aslan.
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A replacement is appointed, and the Trojan Reaches territories fall back in line. The Aslan can't do anything about the betrayal, except whine.

Unfortunately here we run into TNE canon. Of course that's irrelevant for an MT game, or at least, only advisory in nature.</font>[/QUOTE]What TNE canon am I violating? A lot of these details I pulled from the MT information, but I don't remember seeing anything in the Regency Sourcebook.(This is not a challenge. It is a straight question. I really want to know.)

Keep in mind that I dispense with the whole "ihatei invasion" thing as utter nonsense. It was officiall called an "ihatei invasion" because that is what most Domain-ites saw, and the Domain did not want the populace to know that 1) there was a full-scale (if short-lived) Aslan invasion and 2) a major Domain world defected. Instead, the press talked about an "ihatei invasion" that "overwhelmed the Tobia subsector".

So, I am dealing with canon by saying they were intentional falsehoods covering up unpleasant truths.

Still, it's as good an argument as any. I'm still personally attached to the idea of Trojan Reaches being relatively pro-Dulinor (and anti-Norris), but that could easily be mixed in. After all, people's motives are rarely simple, and we are really dealing with a faction, rather than a single individual here anyway. (The Duke of Tobia alone wouldn't have been calling the shots, whatever the formal situation. He would have had his "advisors", most notably his admirals...)

Actually, if you give me permission, I might steal this. I have the primary factor in the dissatisfaction of the Trojan nobles being Norris' preoccupation with the theoretical Zhodani problem instead of the real Aslan problem. Throwing in conflicted allegiances would be a good thing to help with the dissatisfaction.

Please explain if you are willing to let me steal the ideas.

[And I know that there would have to be many in the navy and in the nobility that sign off on the defection. However, it is a convenient shorthand to just refer to the head instead of continuously mentioning the rest of the parade. Plus, the suicide allows Norris to sweep the others under the rug as long as they toe the line from then on.]

 

[Liam Devlin]

daryen:

I like the defection/ Ihatei Invasion scam to cover up the embarassment to the Domain of Deneb & Norris' rule.

Why?

Consider the parallel of the forced abdication of Edward V and ascension of George V in years before WW2. Then when it looked like Abwehr might nabbers Pro-Hitler Eddy & Mrs Simpson, the Duke of Windsor suddenly becomes the "Governor of the Bahama's" for the duration of the war--well out of German reach for an Operation Sea Lion attempt.

In your instance, The 'Duke of Tobias' gets to "fall on his sword" (can you say, Tredek Jurisor? I can

), or tragically shot "before he was liberated"; or as listed 'Took his own life rather than betray Imperial secrets to the Aslan', and so on.

If nothing else, you can feed into your storyline the various Kennedy-esque conspiracy theories..

and the fall out from each one.

I second the motion on the Great Vargr "Undocumented Migrant worker" wave of 1116-1117. I mean, with the Vilani siding for themselves ethnically, and making deals for cheap Vargr labor themselves, the Denebians siding for Norris and wanting restrictions on which Vargr could work here, the Dulinori and Lucanites knifing each others throats and too busy killing the economy's human work force there were "jobs aplenty and somebody had to fill the job vacuum created"--fortunately, cheap TL-11 through TL-13 labor could be had from overpopulated, Vargr states of the coreward Extants(little of it law abiding too)

How's them apples?

 

[Liam Devlin]

daryen:

I like the defection/ Ihatei Invasion scam to cover up the embarassment to the Domain of Deneb & Norris' rule.

Why?

Consider the parallel of the forced abdication of Edward V and ascension of George V in years before WW2. Then when it looked like Abwehr might nabbers Pro-Hitler Eddy & Mrs Simpson, the Duke of Windsor suddenly becomes the "Governor of the Bahama's" for the duration of the war--well out of German reach for an Operation Sea Lion attempt.

In your instance, The 'Duke of Tobias' gets to "fall on his sword" (can you say, Tredek Jurisor? I can

), or tragically shot "before he was liberated"; or as listed 'Took his own life rather than betray Imperial secrets to the Aslan', and so on.

If nothing else, you can feed into your storyline the various Kennedy-esque conspiracy theories..

and the fall out from each one.

I second the motion on the Great Vargr "Undocumented Migrant worker" wave of 1116-1117. I mean, with the Vilani siding for themselves ethnically, and making deals for cheap Vargr labor themselves, the Denebians siding for Norris and wanting restrictions on which Vargr could work here, the Dulinori and Lucanites knifing each others throats and too busy killing the economy's human work force there were "jobs aplenty and somebody had to fill the job vacuum created"--fortunately, cheap TL-11 through TL-13 labor could be had from overpopulated, Vargr states of the coreward Extants(little of it law abiding too)

How's them apples?

 

[Liam Devlin]

daryen:

I like the defection/ Ihatei Invasion scam to cover up the embarassment to the Domain of Deneb & Norris' rule.

Why?

Consider the parallel of the forced abdication of Edward V and ascension of George V in years before WW2. Then when it looked like Abwehr might nabbers Pro-Hitler Eddy & Mrs Simpson, the Duke of Windsor suddenly becomes the "Governor of the Bahama's" for the duration of the war--well out of German reach for an Operation Sea Lion attempt.

In your instance, The 'Duke of Tobias' gets to "fall on his sword" (can you say, Tredek Jurisor? I can

), or tragically shot "before he was liberated"; or as listed 'Took his own life rather than betray Imperial secrets to the Aslan', and so on.

If nothing else, you can feed into your storyline the various Kennedy-esque conspiracy theories..

and the fall out from each one.

I second the motion on the Great Vargr "Undocumented Migrant worker" wave of 1116-1117. I mean, with the Vilani siding for themselves ethnically, and making deals for cheap Vargr labor themselves, the Denebians siding for Norris and wanting restrictions on which Vargr could work here, the Dulinori and Lucanites knifing each others throats and too busy killing the economy's human work force there were "jobs aplenty and somebody had to fill the job vacuum created"--fortunately, cheap TL-11 through TL-13 labor could be had from overpopulated, Vargr states of the coreward Extants(little of it law abiding too)

How's them apples?