DGP and all that
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A splendid idea, Elliot and if I was asked by Hunter to make a $20.00 donation. No problem.
I certainly would give money to help keep this website running. As we have been polled earlier, I am not alone in this.
But, why not...have $10.00 go to website maintance and $10.00 go into a fund to buy out Mr. Sanger and put the items out under the Quicklink/FFE** banner. Within 2 years we would have enough, if the Traveller community, as reflected in the number of people on the Boards keeps growing.
However, if Mr. Sanger did put the properties on eBay, he would be the loser as unpublished manuscripts would fetch a much lower price. Look what happened to the TNE novel Death to Wisdom or whatever the name of Book 3 was...
**Although, I am starting to wonder if Marc wants to put out more reprints...other than in electronic format...
I certainly would give money to help keep this website running. As we have been polled earlier, I am not alone in this.
But, why not...have $10.00 go to website maintance and $10.00 go into a fund to buy out Mr. Sanger and put the items out under the Quicklink/FFE** banner. Within 2 years we would have enough, if the Traveller community, as reflected in the number of people on the Boards keeps growing.
However, if Mr. Sanger did put the properties on eBay, he would be the loser as unpublished manuscripts would fetch a much lower price. Look what happened to the TNE novel Death to Wisdom or whatever the name of Book 3 was...
**Although, I am starting to wonder if Marc wants to put out more reprints...other than in electronic format...
A splendid idea, Elliot and if I was asked by Hunter to make a $20.00 donation. No problem.
I certainly would give money to help keep this website running. As we have been polled earlier, I am not alone in this.
But, why not...have $10.00 go to website maintance and $10.00 go into a fund to buy out Mr. Sanger and put the items out under the Quicklink/FFE** banner. Within 2 years we would have enough, if the Traveller community, as reflected in the number of people on the Boards keeps growing.
However, if Mr. Sanger did put the properties on eBay, he would be the loser as unpublished manuscripts would fetch a much lower price. Look what happened to the TNE novel Death to Wisdom or whatever the name of Book 3 was...
**Although, I am starting to wonder if Marc wants to put out more reprints...other than in electronic format...
I certainly would give money to help keep this website running. As we have been polled earlier, I am not alone in this.
But, why not...have $10.00 go to website maintance and $10.00 go into a fund to buy out Mr. Sanger and put the items out under the Quicklink/FFE** banner. Within 2 years we would have enough, if the Traveller community, as reflected in the number of people on the Boards keeps growing.
However, if Mr. Sanger did put the properties on eBay, he would be the loser as unpublished manuscripts would fetch a much lower price. Look what happened to the TNE novel Death to Wisdom or whatever the name of Book 3 was...
**Although, I am starting to wonder if Marc wants to put out more reprints...other than in electronic format...
A splendid idea, Elliot and if I was asked by Hunter to make a $20.00 donation. No problem.
I certainly would give money to help keep this website running. As we have been polled earlier, I am not alone in this.
But, why not...have $10.00 go to website maintance and $10.00 go into a fund to buy out Mr. Sanger and put the items out under the Quicklink/FFE** banner. Within 2 years we would have enough, if the Traveller community, as reflected in the number of people on the Boards keeps growing.
However, if Mr. Sanger did put the properties on eBay, he would be the loser as unpublished manuscripts would fetch a much lower price. Look what happened to the TNE novel Death to Wisdom or whatever the name of Book 3 was...
**Although, I am starting to wonder if Marc wants to put out more reprints...other than in electronic format...
I certainly would give money to help keep this website running. As we have been polled earlier, I am not alone in this.
But, why not...have $10.00 go to website maintance and $10.00 go into a fund to buy out Mr. Sanger and put the items out under the Quicklink/FFE** banner. Within 2 years we would have enough, if the Traveller community, as reflected in the number of people on the Boards keeps growing.
However, if Mr. Sanger did put the properties on eBay, he would be the loser as unpublished manuscripts would fetch a much lower price. Look what happened to the TNE novel Death to Wisdom or whatever the name of Book 3 was...
**Although, I am starting to wonder if Marc wants to put out more reprints...other than in electronic format...
M
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That assumes that DS is actually willing to sell it now - he may not be.
M
Malenfant
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That assumes that DS is actually willing to sell it now - he may not be.
M
Malenfant
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That assumes that DS is actually willing to sell it now - he may not be.
After the treatment he's both given and received from the general Traveller fan community, I'm not sure he'd want to sell it, either.
Then again, who knows. I can imagine that there are a number of people/companies that would bid on the DGP rights were they to come available on eBay, for the sole purpose of being the ones to be considered the Saviors of the OTU Canon. (Heck, if I won the lottery, it'd be on my top ten things to do, were it possible.
)
But I would imagine that the matter is long dead, as far as Mr Sanger is concerned, anyway. He's made up his mind, and it is unlikely that anything short of a miracle will make him change it.
Assuming that the rights became available, and whoever purchased the rights were to sell them as PDFs through RPGNow, I don't imagine any more than maybe three hundred people would buy them individually. (This is based off of PDF sales figures from postings made at ENWorld.)
Let's assume that each sales for somewhere between $5 and $10 apiece (average of $7.50). After taking out costs, the purchaser would probably make, what, $3.75 or so per unit sold. That's, maybe, $1125 per product.
A quick google search suggests that DGP released about eleven major products, as well as four Journals and twenty-one Digests. Assuming the $1125 per major product given above, that's $12,375 total profit for the eleven products. Assuming that whoever would purchase the rights would release the Journals and Digests as $5 PDFs, we're looking at probably $18,750 profit (assuming $2.50 profit per unit sold at $5). All together, that's $31,125 profit for the entire series.
Sadly, even purchasing the rights at half the minimum Sanger has requested in the past (assuming six digits might have been $100,000) is a losing proposition for the investor.
I can only imagine that the numbers get worse if you look at republishing in print, despite the fact that you get more buyers by going in print, as the production/publishing costs are higher, too.
Of course, a set of DGP Reprints would probably sell very well. I know I'd buy it.
Hasta,
Flynn
Then again, who knows. I can imagine that there are a number of people/companies that would bid on the DGP rights were they to come available on eBay, for the sole purpose of being the ones to be considered the Saviors of the OTU Canon. (Heck, if I won the lottery, it'd be on my top ten things to do, were it possible.
But I would imagine that the matter is long dead, as far as Mr Sanger is concerned, anyway. He's made up his mind, and it is unlikely that anything short of a miracle will make him change it.
Assuming that the rights became available, and whoever purchased the rights were to sell them as PDFs through RPGNow, I don't imagine any more than maybe three hundred people would buy them individually. (This is based off of PDF sales figures from postings made at ENWorld.)
Let's assume that each sales for somewhere between $5 and $10 apiece (average of $7.50). After taking out costs, the purchaser would probably make, what, $3.75 or so per unit sold. That's, maybe, $1125 per product.
A quick google search suggests that DGP released about eleven major products, as well as four Journals and twenty-one Digests. Assuming the $1125 per major product given above, that's $12,375 total profit for the eleven products. Assuming that whoever would purchase the rights would release the Journals and Digests as $5 PDFs, we're looking at probably $18,750 profit (assuming $2.50 profit per unit sold at $5). All together, that's $31,125 profit for the entire series.
Sadly, even purchasing the rights at half the minimum Sanger has requested in the past (assuming six digits might have been $100,000) is a losing proposition for the investor.
I can only imagine that the numbers get worse if you look at republishing in print, despite the fact that you get more buyers by going in print, as the production/publishing costs are higher, too.
Of course, a set of DGP Reprints would probably sell very well. I know I'd buy it.
Hasta,
Flynn
After the treatment he's both given and received from the general Traveller fan community, I'm not sure he'd want to sell it, either.
Then again, who knows. I can imagine that there are a number of people/companies that would bid on the DGP rights were they to come available on eBay, for the sole purpose of being the ones to be considered the Saviors of the OTU Canon. (Heck, if I won the lottery, it'd be on my top ten things to do, were it possible.
)
But I would imagine that the matter is long dead, as far as Mr Sanger is concerned, anyway. He's made up his mind, and it is unlikely that anything short of a miracle will make him change it.
Assuming that the rights became available, and whoever purchased the rights were to sell them as PDFs through RPGNow, I don't imagine any more than maybe three hundred people would buy them individually. (This is based off of PDF sales figures from postings made at ENWorld.)
Let's assume that each sales for somewhere between $5 and $10 apiece (average of $7.50). After taking out costs, the purchaser would probably make, what, $3.75 or so per unit sold. That's, maybe, $1125 per product.
A quick google search suggests that DGP released about eleven major products, as well as four Journals and twenty-one Digests. Assuming the $1125 per major product given above, that's $12,375 total profit for the eleven products. Assuming that whoever would purchase the rights would release the Journals and Digests as $5 PDFs, we're looking at probably $18,750 profit (assuming $2.50 profit per unit sold at $5). All together, that's $31,125 profit for the entire series.
Sadly, even purchasing the rights at half the minimum Sanger has requested in the past (assuming six digits might have been $100,000) is a losing proposition for the investor.
I can only imagine that the numbers get worse if you look at republishing in print, despite the fact that you get more buyers by going in print, as the production/publishing costs are higher, too.
Of course, a set of DGP Reprints would probably sell very well. I know I'd buy it.
Hasta,
Flynn
Then again, who knows. I can imagine that there are a number of people/companies that would bid on the DGP rights were they to come available on eBay, for the sole purpose of being the ones to be considered the Saviors of the OTU Canon. (Heck, if I won the lottery, it'd be on my top ten things to do, were it possible.
But I would imagine that the matter is long dead, as far as Mr Sanger is concerned, anyway. He's made up his mind, and it is unlikely that anything short of a miracle will make him change it.
Assuming that the rights became available, and whoever purchased the rights were to sell them as PDFs through RPGNow, I don't imagine any more than maybe three hundred people would buy them individually. (This is based off of PDF sales figures from postings made at ENWorld.)
Let's assume that each sales for somewhere between $5 and $10 apiece (average of $7.50). After taking out costs, the purchaser would probably make, what, $3.75 or so per unit sold. That's, maybe, $1125 per product.
A quick google search suggests that DGP released about eleven major products, as well as four Journals and twenty-one Digests. Assuming the $1125 per major product given above, that's $12,375 total profit for the eleven products. Assuming that whoever would purchase the rights would release the Journals and Digests as $5 PDFs, we're looking at probably $18,750 profit (assuming $2.50 profit per unit sold at $5). All together, that's $31,125 profit for the entire series.
Sadly, even purchasing the rights at half the minimum Sanger has requested in the past (assuming six digits might have been $100,000) is a losing proposition for the investor.
I can only imagine that the numbers get worse if you look at republishing in print, despite the fact that you get more buyers by going in print, as the production/publishing costs are higher, too.
Of course, a set of DGP Reprints would probably sell very well. I know I'd buy it.
Hasta,
Flynn
After the treatment he's both given and received from the general Traveller fan community, I'm not sure he'd want to sell it, either.
Then again, who knows. I can imagine that there are a number of people/companies that would bid on the DGP rights were they to come available on eBay, for the sole purpose of being the ones to be considered the Saviors of the OTU Canon. (Heck, if I won the lottery, it'd be on my top ten things to do, were it possible.
)
But I would imagine that the matter is long dead, as far as Mr Sanger is concerned, anyway. He's made up his mind, and it is unlikely that anything short of a miracle will make him change it.
Assuming that the rights became available, and whoever purchased the rights were to sell them as PDFs through RPGNow, I don't imagine any more than maybe three hundred people would buy them individually. (This is based off of PDF sales figures from postings made at ENWorld.)
Let's assume that each sales for somewhere between $5 and $10 apiece (average of $7.50). After taking out costs, the purchaser would probably make, what, $3.75 or so per unit sold. That's, maybe, $1125 per product.
A quick google search suggests that DGP released about eleven major products, as well as four Journals and twenty-one Digests. Assuming the $1125 per major product given above, that's $12,375 total profit for the eleven products. Assuming that whoever would purchase the rights would release the Journals and Digests as $5 PDFs, we're looking at probably $18,750 profit (assuming $2.50 profit per unit sold at $5). All together, that's $31,125 profit for the entire series.
Sadly, even purchasing the rights at half the minimum Sanger has requested in the past (assuming six digits might have been $100,000) is a losing proposition for the investor.
I can only imagine that the numbers get worse if you look at republishing in print, despite the fact that you get more buyers by going in print, as the production/publishing costs are higher, too.
Of course, a set of DGP Reprints would probably sell very well. I know I'd buy it.
Hasta,
Flynn
Then again, who knows. I can imagine that there are a number of people/companies that would bid on the DGP rights were they to come available on eBay, for the sole purpose of being the ones to be considered the Saviors of the OTU Canon. (Heck, if I won the lottery, it'd be on my top ten things to do, were it possible.
But I would imagine that the matter is long dead, as far as Mr Sanger is concerned, anyway. He's made up his mind, and it is unlikely that anything short of a miracle will make him change it.
Assuming that the rights became available, and whoever purchased the rights were to sell them as PDFs through RPGNow, I don't imagine any more than maybe three hundred people would buy them individually. (This is based off of PDF sales figures from postings made at ENWorld.)
Let's assume that each sales for somewhere between $5 and $10 apiece (average of $7.50). After taking out costs, the purchaser would probably make, what, $3.75 or so per unit sold. That's, maybe, $1125 per product.
A quick google search suggests that DGP released about eleven major products, as well as four Journals and twenty-one Digests. Assuming the $1125 per major product given above, that's $12,375 total profit for the eleven products. Assuming that whoever would purchase the rights would release the Journals and Digests as $5 PDFs, we're looking at probably $18,750 profit (assuming $2.50 profit per unit sold at $5). All together, that's $31,125 profit for the entire series.
Sadly, even purchasing the rights at half the minimum Sanger has requested in the past (assuming six digits might have been $100,000) is a losing proposition for the investor.
I can only imagine that the numbers get worse if you look at republishing in print, despite the fact that you get more buyers by going in print, as the production/publishing costs are higher, too.
Of course, a set of DGP Reprints would probably sell very well. I know I'd buy it.
Hasta,
Flynn
Has anyone proposed to Mr. Sanger about doing a PDF sale version of what he owns (has rights too)?
I would be happy to talk to him about it for you all.
No, no, I do not have the money to buy them (and this is not a genre of games that my company is in.
But I would be happy to talk/discuss with him if you all thought it might help.
Dave
I would be happy to talk to him about it for you all.
No, no, I do not have the money to buy them (and this is not a genre of games that my company is in.
But I would be happy to talk/discuss with him if you all thought it might help.
Dave
Has anyone proposed to Mr. Sanger about doing a PDF sale version of what he owns (has rights too)?
I would be happy to talk to him about it for you all.
No, no, I do not have the money to buy them (and this is not a genre of games that my company is in.
But I would be happy to talk/discuss with him if you all thought it might help.
Dave
I would be happy to talk to him about it for you all.
No, no, I do not have the money to buy them (and this is not a genre of games that my company is in.
But I would be happy to talk/discuss with him if you all thought it might help.
Dave
Has anyone proposed to Mr. Sanger about doing a PDF sale version of what he owns (has rights too)?
I would be happy to talk to him about it for you all.
No, no, I do not have the money to buy them (and this is not a genre of games that my company is in.
But I would be happy to talk/discuss with him if you all thought it might help.
Dave
I would be happy to talk to him about it for you all.
No, no, I do not have the money to buy them (and this is not a genre of games that my company is in.
But I would be happy to talk/discuss with him if you all thought it might help.
Dave
Folks, it's not selling the hard copies of the material that's at question, but the rights to publish the material he and his team created for Traveller.
That's why he's asking for six figures. Or so I'm led to believe
Folks, it's not selling the hard copies of the material that's at question, but the rights to publish the material he and his team created for Traveller.
That's why he's asking for six figures. Or so I'm led to believe
Folks, it's not selling the hard copies of the material that's at question, but the rights to publish the material he and his team created for Traveller.
That's why he's asking for six figures. Or so I'm led to believe
