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World War II in Space

TKalbfus

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How about a parallel Universe where all the world war II powers exist as Interstellar Nations, and familair figures run these nations? All the cities are converted into planets, there is a planet Berlin for example, and of course there would by FTL radio to simulate radio in the mid twentieth century.
 
Originally posted by Tom Kalbfus:
How about a parallel Universe where all the world war II powers exist as Interstellar Nations, and familair figures run these nations? All the cities are converted into planets, there is a planet Berlin for example, and of course there would by FTL radio to simulate radio in the mid twentieth century.
This would be cool. However, you would need to tweak your FTL technology to match. It wasn't possible to invade Australia without conquering New Guinea or Timor first. With Traveller technology it would be possible to bypass them.

And yes, New Guinea and Timor are _exactly_ the kind of worlds you would want to have in your universe. They weren't Kansas then, and they aren't Kansas now.

Alan B
 
Originally posted by alanb:
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How about a parallel Universe where all the world war II powers exist as Interstellar Nations, and familair figures run these nations? All the cities are converted into planets, there is a planet Berlin for example, and of course there would by FTL radio to simulate radio in the mid twentieth century.
This would be cool. However, you would need to tweak your FTL technology to match. It wasn't possible to invade Australia without conquering New Guinea or Timor first. With Traveller technology it would be possible to bypass them.

And yes, New Guinea and Timor are _exactly_ the kind of worlds you would want to have in your universe. They weren't Kansas then, and they aren't Kansas now.

Alan B
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Hello.
Why couldn't the japanesse invade Aust without invading New Guinea or Timor (perhaps you forget the battle of the Coral sea, when the USA saved the world from imperialism well someone elses imperialism anyway), And if you dont think America is Imperialistic look at Cokacola and Macdonalds, just because they dont carry guns dosnt mean they arnt imperialistic.
RIGHT sorry about the rant.
Back to topic - the ALLIES jumped over japanesse islands to get to japan so why couldn't traveler ships do the same.
ONE small problem i can see FIGHTERS in traveler arn't anywhere near as powerful as in WW2 so carrier wars wont work.
Bye.
 
Originally posted by Lionel Deffries:
Why couldn't the japanesse invade Aust without invading New Guinea or Timor (perhaps you forget the battle of the Coral sea, when the USA saved the world from imperialism well someone elses imperialism anyway),
The whole point of the Coral Sea operation was to take Port Moresby.


One of the key limitations in the Pacific war was the range of aircraft and the need for airfields. It was also necessary to suppress enemy air bases before islands could be bypassed.

It didn't help if naval bases were too far away, either. Rabaul and, even more so, Truk were a fair way away from the east coast of Australia.

And then there was the coastwatcher network, which made sure that Japanese air and naval movements would usually be observed. The code breaking was only part of the Allies' supremacy in intelligence. The greater the distance the Japanese were operating over, the greater the chance that the Allies would be ready for them.

Incidentally, it would be interesting to examine the role of land based aircraft in the Battle of the Coral Sea. There were plenty of aircraft operating out of bases in Australia at the time - more than were operating from the carriers. Specifically, more than the Japanese had...

Alan B
 
Didn't GURPS do something like this for Atomic Horror or something that speculated about Nazis in Space?

I would not want see the various nations playing out Interstellar Wars as WWII milieu but I can see there is a danger that is what new Traveller milieu might end up resembling because the way Traveller canon has been written.
 
Hello.
Why couldn't the japanesse invade Aust without invading New Guinea or Timor (perhaps you forget the battle of the Coral sea, when the USA saved the world from imperialism well someone elses imperialism anyway), And if you dont think America is Imperialistic look at Cokacola and Macdonalds, just because they dont carry guns dosnt mean they arnt imperialistic.
RIGHT sorry about the rant.
Back to topic - the ALLIES jumped over japanesse islands to get to japan so why couldn't traveler ships do the same.
ONE small problem i can see FIGHTERS in traveler arn't anywhere near as powerful as in WW2 so carrier wars wont work.
Bye.
Depends on what munitions these fighters carry. I assume you mean the fighters relative to the ships. Traveller fighters should be able to shoot down vintage world war II aircraft.

Fighters can carry nuclear warheads for instance. In a space setting stylized after world war II Nukes are conventional munitions. What the Manhattan Project is about is developing an Matter/Antimatter bomb. As for the map, you take a world map and erase all contentents and geological features leaving only the cities which then become planets. German Carrier fleets can now reach the planet Moscow. Submarines or U-boats are now starships with cloaking devices. The basic set up is the same as the setup for World War II, the way the battles would be fought would be different however.

The starting year would be on September 1, 5939 AD. The German Space Navy invades Polish space and starts bombarding the Polish planets of Warsaw and Krakow with nuclear bombs. The United Space of America intially stays neutral. The United Kingdom and France declare War on the German Reich. Most on the battles are fleet actions with a one-to-one correspondence between actual world war II weapons and Traveller weapons that play a similar role.
 
The Helmsman series by Bill Baldwin describes a universe based on WWI/WWII. While not exactly describing Nazis in space is a very good scifi series in own right. Lots of ship to ship and fleet actions.
 
Actually, I just noticed there is a new movie that looks like it could have come straight from the Pulp novels of the 1940s. Starring Angelia Jolie & Gwienth Palthrow.
 
Nifty idea, especially when iot takes place in a Millieu 0 era of Traveller. The real question is, which territory or Pocket Empire would be Nazi Germany and which would be Imperial Japan? In the T4 campaign, the Interstellar Confederacy could be Nazi Germany and the Chanestin Kingdon, and the Third Imperium could be the Allies and SHAEF overseen by Emperor Cleon I. Or maybe the remnants of the Vilani Empire would be Nazi Germany bent on re-establishing their empire. The 1st Imperium could resemble a National-Socialist Government and shall rebuild their lost empire after the Long Night as well as the fall of Zira Sirka.
 
In all the references I have seen the Sol government has been protrayed as a fascist police state. They might make a good a good nazi state. With Earth being the homeland they have to liberate, like the Rhineland or Alsace-Lorraine.
The Aslan have a warrior based society that could take the place of Japan.
 
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