Why? just....WHY?

[shadowdragon]

I know. I know better. I really should just pretend they are three different games. T20 strikes again. A model 5 computer for a ship. Minimum Tech Level 13......A model 5 ship computer has 57/13 for PP. So does a Master 5 computer from the design sequences for computers. Which lists the minimum Tech Level as 5. 8 levels of difference? I could see maybe 1 or 2 tops, even if I wouldn't agree with it. But 8? 8??? What is the reasoning behind allowing this past editing much less playtesting?

I like the D20/T20 system, I do....but seriously folks, this is bloody silly.....

There are many things I put up with, realizing "hey, its a game" but I do like my consistency. I also realize T20 isn't as popular here on the board as the older stuff. I am primarily a role-player though and as many others I started with D&D. I and my friends have a whole slew of house rules to fix those little inconsistencies (from AD&D all the way to 3.5), but my house rule list for T20 is going to be nearly as big as the damn book.

Hunter- if you see this, Can I please write the T20v2.0 for you? Please? I work cheap I do (and I think a touch of the ocd too)....C'mon, we gots a couple years on the license left don't we? I can have a preliminary in your inbox in four months, tops......for a bonus I'll do it in three.

Or, if you prefer, for a small fee I'll be happy to tell you how to catch 99% of these issues in the first pass.:rofl:

On a more serious note- Can anyone suggest a rational explanation why I can build a computer and program it to do exactly the same jobs a ship computer would do 8 whole TL before I can install it in a ship? I sure as heck can't. Dan? Bill? Help?

 

[mbrinkhues]

Maybe a simple size issue. After all a System/370 had the same computational power as my current day smartphone. But I sure won't clip the old IBM to my belt.

 

[shadowdragon]

i wont go into how the computers in the ship design sequence actually cant run the programs listed in the computer design sequence as being required to go into jump without seriously degraded performance to run the required minimum programs. I wont, I wont, I wont......

nor will i go into the differences between ship 'puters and design sequence 'puters in size and power.....

 

[aramis]

There is one reason they are what they are: CT design compatibility. Don't even try to explain ship's computers in the computer design sequences; they are not related.

That ship's computer represents some unique Gee-Whiz Gewgahs.

 

[shadowdragon]

thbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt!

 

[far-trader]

...C'mon, we gots a couple years on the license left don't we?

Less than a year actually. It runs down next summer iirc.

On the computer issue, it's a mess but for one thing you need to be looking at the Expert models. And they are all TL11 (not 13) as well. That might help you a little. There's still "issues" and we did go over some of them ages ago (robject? can't recall for sure). Not all of the suggestions and questions made it into the official errata though.

Do check the errata file though, if you can find it The PP was one thing that istr being corrected and your's above looks like the old version.

 

[shadowdragon]

I have the (a?) Errata for T20, and the PP list to replace the "free cpu" column is the Master 1-6 numbers for total/max pp. Expert-2 is where the min TL starts climbing (E-2 is TL7, you dont hit TL11 until the E-5) and it has 126/17 PP- significantly higher than the numbers shown in the errata for starship computers. So unless I have the wrong errata?

That's too bad about the license tho- I had 2012 on the brain for expiration for some reason....ah well

 

[Andrew Boulton]

That's too bad about the license tho- I had 2012 on the brain for expiration for some reason....ah well

That's when the world ends

 

[Keklas Rekobah]

That's when the world ends

Sorry, Andy; but if it is not CT canon, then it never happened.