What's Coming in T5
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Supplement Four
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Why don't you send this to him at the Far Future web site?
Just wanted to say... for a forum supposedly peopled by $35-spending T5 orderers, you guys sure are pessimistic about where your money's gone!
And if it's not...
You guys are a bunch of wussies, but replace that "w" with a "p"! The original hard science rpg, with as much hard science thrown as much as possible, and a feel that quietly, but emphatically, states, "science!" and you're all, like, "I don't know if it's going to be playable..." "... it seems to complex..." "I think a bell-curve is unnatural..." "if I have to learn some rules, it's going to make my wussy hurt...!"
Get over it guys! I'm psyched for this release! Let's get it released, then dive head-first into the fray! If it bothers you that much, come over to my house after I got it and see how you like it! I trained under a 5 1/2 skull rating ref, and liked it, because I knew we were up to the challenge!
"That's all I have to say about that."
--The Notorious Ganymede
And if it's not...
You guys are a bunch of wussies, but replace that "w" with a "p"! The original hard science rpg, with as much hard science thrown as much as possible, and a feel that quietly, but emphatically, states, "science!" and you're all, like, "I don't know if it's going to be playable..." "... it seems to complex..." "I think a bell-curve is unnatural..." "if I have to learn some rules, it's going to make my wussy hurt...!"
Get over it guys! I'm psyched for this release! Let's get it released, then dive head-first into the fray! If it bothers you that much, come over to my house after I got it and see how you like it! I trained under a 5 1/2 skull rating ref, and liked it, because I knew we were up to the challenge!
"That's all I have to say about that."
--The Notorious Ganymede
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pendragonman
Absent Friends Margrave
Gany,
If you noticed, most of those posts were from Oct. 2007 and before. Otherwise known as before the pre ordering. Yet they pre oredered anyway.
They are excited, they just don't want everyone to see their inner glee.
If you noticed, most of those posts were from Oct. 2007 and before. Otherwise known as before the pre ordering. Yet they pre oredered anyway.
They are excited, they just don't want everyone to see their inner glee.
Kyle Aaron
SOC-10
Well, people like to feel right into a game session, and there's what the movie-makers call "suspension of disbelief." If there's something that makes the viewers say, "that's stupid! ridiculous!" that ruins suspension of disbelief. For example, while watching the a particular action movie it all seemed believable - extreme, but believable - until he used a guy to break his fall down a stairwell.
A similar thing can happen in game sessions, where a breaking of the suspension of disbelief ruins the mood, and makes everyone remember "it's just a game". Just as in a movie, you always do know it's not real, but you like to get in the mood.
Having the game follow whatever you feel to be "realistic" helps that.
The real problem is that people often confuse realistic themes in a game's design with complexity. More charts and stats is not necessarily more realistic. In fact, the most realistic game would be one with no rules at all, and a very wise, impartial, and well-read GM
That can actually be a virtue, in that the GM doesn't mess about for hours deciding +/-1 here or there. As anyone who's ever visited a dvd rental store knows, having too many choices can lead to crippling indecision.tbeard1999 said:
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"If T5 is meant to be the advanced grognard toolkit for obsessive players and refs, and the Mongoose version an 'out of the box' play version, then on reflection I'm not unhappy with what I've seen so far. Still work to be done, but a 5 page summary does not an rpg make."
That's exactly what I heard and I'm really chuffed about it
The thought of all those crunchy bits makes me fairly drool in anticipation:.)
although saying that, I will probably still play Mongoose Trav'Lite:.)
That's exactly what I heard and I'm really chuffed about it
The thought of all those crunchy bits makes me fairly drool in anticipation:.)
although saying that, I will probably still play Mongoose Trav'Lite:.)
cyberknight
SOC-5
Me too, assuming it isn't really just a mirage out in the distance that fades away when it is almost in my grasp.
I'm not a pure MegaTraveller fan, but I found it did a very good job of organizing and streamlining Classic Traveller into coherence, while expanding it in badly needed directions. Imperial Encyclopedia and Referee's Companion are still two of my most favorite supplements ever, while the Player's Manual is by far the best source for classic Traveller character generation.
As for T5; Marc has completed it, and let early adopters pound at it in playtest since January of this year. Errata were logged, compiled into spreadsheets, and presented to Marc. He is still working on that pile. Revised chapters have been posted, which in turn are pored over yet again, sometimes generating more errata (but less than the draft chapter). So T5 is Beta, perhaps.
Lately, new errata has slowed to a trickle. What's remained slow and steady (every other week or so) are conceptual issues, which sometimes prompt clarifying text to be added or passages to be rewritten.
As for T5; Marc has completed it, and let early adopters pound at it in playtest since January of this year. Errata were logged, compiled into spreadsheets, and presented to Marc. He is still working on that pile. Revised chapters have been posted, which in turn are pored over yet again, sometimes generating more errata (but less than the draft chapter). So T5 is Beta, perhaps.
Lately, new errata has slowed to a trickle. What's remained slow and steady (every other week or so) are conceptual issues, which sometimes prompt clarifying text to be added or passages to be rewritten.
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Vargr Drifter
SOC-3
So, have I understood it right? Mongoose Publishing keeps publishing The Mongoose traveller alongside Traveller5? The 5 just haves more props and is little closer to the Classic Traveller. it's like " Collector's Edition" for the nostalgics and hardcore-fans?
More like AD&D vs BECMI D&D
T5 goes into print, published by Mongoose, as a kind of "Advanced Traveller."
MGT remains in print, published and written by mongoose, and remains supported for use as core for other games Mongoose hasn't decided to build as standalones.
And MGT is more likely closer in look and feel to CT than will be T5.
Andrew Boulton
The Adminator
Unless I've missed something, T5 will be published by FFE.
Supplement Four
SOC-14 5K
Yeah, and I think it will have no connection with MGT at all. I think it will be yet another rule system for the game.
Interesting. Will its rules be anything like T4?
Supplement Four
SOC-14 5K
I know little, but the "word" on the street is that the core mechanic is very much T4 with a few tweaks.
Interesting. Sounds like I'll have to get a hold of some of the materials and take a look.
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