The nearly impossible 100 dT J2 Starship

[atpollard]

The former; it's a unifying step. For example, smallcraft and vehicles have lower armor values.

DonM's Consolidated CT Errata says otherwise:

"Page 41, Rule 75: Naval Vessels, B – Armor (correction): The Striker armor rating corresponds to High Guard armor factors according to the table below:

Armor Rating
High Guard 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 +1
Striker 40 44 47 50 52 54 56 57 +1"

So at least I am not the only person to see that it could be interpreted either way. (I was looking for the original Striker Errata, to check on something else but could't find my copy).

 

[Rigel Stardin]

Mike Wrightman:

So the feild around the ship that protects it from radiation would have to buffed several millions times to stop even the smallest of particles being discussed here.


Back to the discussion:

Does everyone realize, with ships using gravitronics to maintain a 1G gravity on their ships, they've basically created a small asteriod that would be a dust collect as it moved through intersystem space?

I don't want to get into the paradox of gravitronics here but there is one...

 

[far-trader]

...Back to the discussion:

Does everyone realize, with ships using gravitronics to maintain a 1G gravity on their ships, they've basically created a small asteriod that would be a dust collect as it moved through intersystem space?

I don't want to get into the paradox of gravitronics here but there is one...

Not really. The artificial gravity (AG) is pretty much if not entirely contained within the hull per canon iirc. It is entirely so in MTU.

Some see it as a plate constrained effect (top of field generator and bottom of field generator producing a "flow" of gravitons creating the AG value between the two but not outside) generally with the plates being in the decking above and below on each deck.

I've usually done it a little differently. I make mine a full hull effect, set in orientation and strength when the hull is laid down, and constrained to within the hull. As long as the power plant is on the AG is on. To the same level, for the whole ship.

 

[Rigel Stardin]

The Pardox: Technial the AG plates or feilds are adding weight to the ship or better yet creating a gravity well around the ship. Einstien space basically states that this would have an effect on the surrounding area, thus the paradox.

This increase mass could explain why Jump drives and M-drive are so massive in Traveller.

See I learn something every day...

 

[mike wightman]

Mike Wightman:

So the field around the ship that protects it from radiation would have to buffed several millions times to stop even the smallest of particles being discussed here.

I never claimed it would have an affect on such stuff - I was answering a question about canon and the maneuver drive.

I then posted a link to show a possible explanation from the real world.

 

[mike wightman]

The Pardox: Technial the AG plates or feilds are adding weight to the ship or better yet creating a gravity well around the ship. Einstien space basically states that this would have an effect on the surrounding area, thus the paradox.

This increase mass could explain why Jump drives and M-drive are so massive in Traveller.

See I learn something every day...

Question - when a fighter today pulls 9g in a turn is that affect detectable outside the plane?

Put another way is stuff attracted to the plane as if it is generating a 9g field? Does stuff external to the plane feel any force of attraction to it at all?

 

[atpollard]

Question - when a fighter today pulls 9g in a turn is that affect detectable outside the plane?

Put another way is stuff attracted to the plane as if it is generating a 9g field? Does stuff external to the plane feel any force of attraction to it at all?

Yes it does, but only in one of the seven dimensions of reality that we cannot 'see' with our four percieved dimensions.

 

[Rigel Stardin]

I never claimed it would have an affect on such stuff - I was answering a question about canon and the maneuver drive.

I then posted a link to show a possible explanation from the real world.

There are "give me" in all game systems/science fiction and this is one of them along with what I said about Gravity wells created by gravitronics.

A field that would protect the ship from particles and radiation would technically be called a deflector shield. Deflector shields are not used in Traveller therefore we must assume the ship's hull is capable of protecting the ship's crew from dust and small mirco metorites during ship operations in normal space.

The articles posted here about plamsa enevolepes and maginetic fields protecting the crew have some problem as well. If the use of magnetics were involved, the magnetic field would be so strong that the EM emission from the ship would be so large, that ships would be detected with ease. The same goes for plasma envolopes due to the amount of power need to keep the feild charged. At least the effect of the plasma would be to turn your ship into a neon light bulb which could be spotted using optical methods.

The statement about artifical gravity wells is also based on "For every action there is and oposite and equal reaction." Since none of us knows what are the side effect of an AG feild, you must assume wether the affect is local (inside the ship) or external (feild extends beyond the ship) that it has an effect on the space around it. What that effect is, is the paradox I spoke of. And could start a lively debate if we has some physists willing to look at that.

(Sorry for all the misspelled word )

 

[far-trader]

... If the use of magnetics were involved, the magnetic field would be so strong that the EM emission from the ship would be so large, that ships would be detected with ease. The same goes for plasma envolopes due to the amount of power need to keep the feild charged. At least the effect of the plasma would be to turn your ship into a neon light bulb which could be spotted using optical methods.

Nah, no worries about that

The ship is already a super-nova in the infrared anyway with it's gajillions of watts of heat from the fusion power plant (...not to reopen the "HELP! My spaceship is melting!!" debate, much, not here anyway )

(I keep my spaceship cool by waving my hands a lot ...and apparently I'm in a silly(er) mood than usual )

 

[Rigel Stardin]

Nah, no worries about that

(I keep my spaceship cool by waving my hands a lot ...and apparently I'm in a silly(er) mood than usual )

That's why there is no more talk about globe warm... er, climate change. All us game masters have cooled the planet so much they don't know what is happening....

 

[warwizard]

thruster plates...

IMTU I do not use thruster plates.

In the OTU I explain them as prohibiting interactions with gravitons comming from one side of the shearing field. Thus half the universe's gravity is no longer affecting the area in this graviton shadow. The other half of the universe is accelerated a very small amount towards the ship thus satifying Newton. Anti grav drives work on a simular principle but only reacting with the nearby body, the lateral thrust is obtained by tilting the shearing field away from normal to the center of mass, distance from the body renders this lateral acceleration less and less effective.