Solomani Symbol
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far-trader
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It's the classic "earth" symbol. A green circle and cross. As seen here:
http://www.travellerrpg.com/CotI/Discuss/Avatars/solomani.gif
Borrowed from the site's avatar library (page 2).
http://www.travellerrpg.com/CotI/Discuss/Avatars/solomani.gif
Borrowed from the site's avatar library (page 2).
far-trader
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You're welcome. I trust you have found the avatar setting options then and you'll probably be sporting a SC one soon
Andrew Boulton
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Before you ask, no, you can't have mine 
far-trader
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Yeah, he got the basic one, only Andrew has the spiffy one because of his high Party standing
Maladominus
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To elucidate further. The Solomani "wheel-cross" is an ancient symbol of Earth cultures.
In Ancient Greek, that was the symbol representing "Terra". Which is Greek/Latin for Earth.
In Celtic mythology, the wheel-cross was also an ancient symbol symbolizing our world, having several meanings such as "The Earth" or "life". The circle itself represented the circle of life, meaning that life is essentially unbroken, it continues forever. Hence it also symbolizes re-birth. Hence the symbol carried into the Christian era. You know how the Christian church has a habit of having retained numerous "pagan" symbols, eh? In fact, the modern Roman Catholic Church still uses the Celtic wheel-cross as a ritual symbol in the modern churches --- and I recall seeing it displayed in our local church during Easter Holy Week.
In addition, the wheel-cross is also the modern/current ASTRONOMICAL and Astrological (Zodiac) symbol for the Planet Earth. Then again, much of modern astrology borrows ancient Greek symbolism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Earth_symbol.svg
far-trader
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Good expansion on my short note Maladominus. But I seem to recall something you missed about it also being an alchemical and/or magical symbol representing the four elements. Or am I mixing stories?
Ganidirsii O'Flynn
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It's an Atlantic-class meson gunner's crosshair over 'Lost Cause'.
It's the Imperial Navy insignia for "idiot bandit"
Just seen on a an air/raft bumper sticker on Vega...
*Solly symbol with the intersteller symbol for 'No' superimposed* YOU LOST! GET OVER IT!
It's the Imperial Navy insignia for "idiot bandit"
Just seen on a an air/raft bumper sticker on Vega...
*Solly symbol with the intersteller symbol for 'No' superimposed* YOU LOST! GET OVER IT!
Andrew Boulton
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Maladominus
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You may well be correct. Last time I read about the wheel-cross symbol long ago, it was a symbol used by other cultures other than the Greeks and Celts. And its use was also in other fields beyond astronomy/astrology. It's a very universal symbol to mankind (and it did symbolize many other things other than "Earth").
far-trader
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Sol only lost because Communism won in the OTU. If capitalism had prevailed, the Imperium would have been facing Galaxy class Starships with phasers, shields, antimatter and warp drives - you would all be part of the Federation now.
</font>[/QUOTE]...Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.Oh, wait that was the Borg operating principal wasn't it, not StarFleet. I'm always mixing the two up
StarFleet was the one with the supreme rule, aka Prime Directive, being non-interference right? Except for all the times when it was inconvenient
Andrew Boulton
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I always thought the UFP was communist - it's certainly not capitalist 'cos they don't use money.
Sol only lost because Communism won in the OTU. If capitalism had prevailed, the Imperium would have been facing Galaxy class Starships with phasers, shields, antimatter and warp drives - you would all be part of the Federation now.
</font>[/QUOTE]Who said Sol lost? Seems like they succeeded in kicking the oppressors off planet and got the 3I to foot the bill. Let's see capital of an oppressive regime or member world to a semi-enlightened empire whose capital is a real long way away and makes it a point not to worry about on-world politics - which would you choose?
Maladominus
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All of that is moot.
The Solomani Confederation recaptures Terra (and the Sol subsector) by ~1120 soon after Emperor Strephon is assasinated and the Third Imperium already self-destructing. MegaTraveller/Rebellion era refers to this as The Second Solomani Rim War, as outlined in the DGP sources (i.e. Solomani & Aslan sourcebook). Essentially, the Solomani Navy already starts preparing for a MASSIVE invasion of the Imperium within weeks of hearing the news of Emperor Strephon's assassination.
In the end: The Solomani Confederation OUTLIVES the Third Imperium.
The Solomani Confederation recaptures Terra (and the Sol subsector) by ~1120 soon after Emperor Strephon is assasinated and the Third Imperium already self-destructing. MegaTraveller/Rebellion era refers to this as The Second Solomani Rim War, as outlined in the DGP sources (i.e. Solomani & Aslan sourcebook). Essentially, the Solomani Navy already starts preparing for a MASSIVE invasion of the Imperium within weeks of hearing the news of Emperor Strephon's assassination.
In the end: The Solomani Confederation OUTLIVES the Third Imperium.
Perhaps before DS9, but the Ferengi (sp?) ended those illusions. (And Harcourt Fenton "Harry" Mudd was a capitalist on the original series)
You could be correct about Sol not being communist, I just saw communism as the only force that could slow the modern rate of TL progression down to Imperial levels. Starting at TL 4, Earth appears to be progressing at about 40-50 years per TL - that would place Jump Drive by AD 2060-2100 and TL 16 by AD 2340-2450. Yet the OTU says different, comrade.
far-trader
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Nothing slows progress like peace
You'll find in our history that most technological advances are pretty directly related to warfare, hot or cold.
Once we reach the stars in the OTU there is a short series of wars and then peace followed by the long night, followed by more peace. Not much incentive for quick advances in technology.
You'll find in our history that most technological advances are pretty directly related to warfare, hot or cold.
Once we reach the stars in the OTU there is a short series of wars and then peace followed by the long night, followed by more peace. Not much incentive for quick advances in technology.
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