Warbringer
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Are other races besides Vilani are accepted into the Imperial Navy?
Alsan, Vargr, Droyne????
Alsan, Vargr, Droyne????
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Races in the Imperial Navy
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By Vilani you mean 'humans', naturally?
In the OTU setting Vargr have a long, storied history of service in the Imperial Navy. In the Corridor Sector there is a Vargr-only Naval fleet (I don't know the fleet number, alas) which prides itself on opposing their 'cousins' across the borders.
There are some Aslan, IIRC, serving in the navy, and a number of minor races.
Droyne, AFAIK, do not participate in any Imperial military service, but I could be wrong about this.
Note that some races are not suited to military service. For instance, the Virushi are pacifists, and are exempt from military service.
BlackBat242
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I don't have that one. Good to know.
CHaracter generation mechanics for both Ael Yael and Virush imply otherwise.
BlackBat242
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Note that this is basically the Imperial equivalent to the US' National Health Service Corps, National Institute of Health, or even the Public Health Service rather than a military Medical Corps.
GypsyComet
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"Capable" is not measured purely in physicality terms. Two things work against the Ael joining the Navy: essentially no space services in their system (which also affects Humans in those editions with homeworld limits, by the way), and a psychological distaste for large groups. As hardwired for flight as they are, I can't see Ael doing well at all in a capital ship's tight corridors full of bustling crew. Would the Imperium let them try? Almost certainly.
By comparison, the Virush are much more well known across the Imperium, and most recruiters know better than to look to the Virushi for combat service. Even if the recruiter missed that day in class, the organization behind them will know. There are Virushi in the Navy, but the vast majority will be back at base in the medical staff, and will be using the Doctor career to represent their time in the Imperial Navy.
Yes, but keep in mind that the Virushi are not only pacifists, but they are also individualistic, and do not respond to "taking orders". They will consider what you say and make up their own minds whether or not they want to do it. Therefore, they have other reasons (based on racial psychology) that make them unsuitable to a military career with a structured command hierarchy.
They may be found in Imperial Service, but that is different from saying that they are found in Imperial Military Service.
Well said.
I think that the roles are clearly based on the characteristics of the race.
For a long time Human females could only serve in certain military roles in Earth militaries as a ritual.
In 3I, some races will have open roles in the military (Humanti, Vilani, Vargr, and Aslan) Perhaps we see Azanti and others. Like a Betazoid in Trek they may not be very common.
So, you have a pacifist, or a species with certain qualifications may service in support functions. Also, you might find that TL of the home world is another indicator of service type.
GypsyComet
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Like normal doctors, then.
Patron Zero
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Perhaps a sidebar to this thread but definitely related would be non-human races in the Imperial Marines.
If the model of the Ottoman Empire or modern France, the idea of a foreign legion or even janissaries being fielded by the Imperium should not be overlooked. With such a large expanse to police and patrol it makes good sense to draw on the resource of those 'native' to various zones of conflict whom posses local knowledge.
Mind units composed of former adversaries either taken captive or willing enlistees would be screened and reviewed to insure loyalty and lessen an possible insurgent networks from being founded.
If commercial starships can operate with diversified crews then why not brothers-in-arms ?
If the model of the Ottoman Empire or modern France, the idea of a foreign legion or even janissaries being fielded by the Imperium should not be overlooked. With such a large expanse to police and patrol it makes good sense to draw on the resource of those 'native' to various zones of conflict whom posses local knowledge.
Mind units composed of former adversaries either taken captive or willing enlistees would be screened and reviewed to insure loyalty and lessen an possible insurgent networks from being founded.
If commercial starships can operate with diversified crews then why not brothers-in-arms ?
A key issue would be the logistics of how they are deployed: as racially-uniform independent units, or as integrated/mixed units.
There is a difference between integrating different human ethnic-nationalities in a formation versus integrating different species in a unit. Different species may have different biological and/or dietary needs, as well as different ergonomics for equipment based on physiology.
From a logisitics standpoint my guess would be that in general it would be easier to outfit and field a racially-uniform unit (with kit optimized for the particular species-based needs for a given unit) than to mix significantly different species in a single unit with provision for many different "kits" in the supply-train to meet any possible contingencies.
Timerover51
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Could perhaps one of the moderators correct the title of this thread from "Imerial Navy" to "Imperial Navy"?
Drakon
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How big a "kit" would be needed for each species?
Vargrs have digigrade legs, but I don't think Aslans do. Most of the clothing and weapons can be used equally well among humans and at least these species. So other than footwear, and some tailoring on the pants, these species might be in mixed units.
K'Krees should not be an issue in the Imperial Marines. And frankly if they were, I do not think it would be a good idea to leave a K'kree in charge of K'Kree forces. Hivers as well. I don't think either of them would be in Imperial service.
CT Aslan are semi-digitigrade - the heel isn't in contact with the ground in a normal standing mode, but isn't knee-like, either. The Metatarsal:Tibial:Femur ratio looks to be about 1:1.5:3, versus the 1:4:4 of humans... and 1:1.5:1 of Vargr.
MGT shows fully digitigrade (p 30, 36, 50) and semi-digitigrade (p. 42), and non-digitigrade (p. 46, 58) - hence one of my complaints about the art direction.
they can but there's a simple dice or difficulty mod added for bad ergonomics.
not as bad as, say, using a hiver toolkit, but it's not impossible. same goes for weapons.
Vladika
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I'm sure I wouldn't what a crew with "negative DMs" for every task aboard ship...:nonono:
A simple solution might be have "all Aslan" ships, squadrons, etc. (Also, this might explain 500ICr wrenches and screwdrivers...):rofl:
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