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Pocket Empires of the 1200s

Always thought the past for PE but intriguing idea for Traveller future era. All those collapsed worlds out there.
 
Has anyone ever adapted, modified or used Pocket Empires for the 1200s in TNE?

Besides Marc? Oh, wait, he's talking M1900...

Seriously, no modding needed. Lots of people backported it simply by adding one more difficulty to TTNE.
 
I haven't had time to play around with the numbers yet, but the first thing that struck me was that there wouldn't be any cashed-up corporate family to turn up with a bunch of vessels, a core work/security force and a few makers and power generators. Checking out some of the material in Path of Tears and Smash & Grab, the startup equipment would be far more marginal.

Too, there'd have to be a presumption that some sort of anti-virus protocol or kit or software had been developed, otherwise there'd be the constant risk of one of them infecting systems then knocking it all sideways.

Then again, that could be another of the risks and tasks that would need to be attended to until those elements could all be completed and the risk of infection diminished sufficiently.
 
I haven't had time to play around with the numbers yet, but the first thing that struck me was that there wouldn't be any cashed-up corporate family to turn up with a bunch of vessels, a core work/security force and a few makers and power generators. Checking out some of the material in Path of Tears and Smash & Grab, the startup equipment would be far more marginal.

Too, there'd have to be a presumption that some sort of anti-virus protocol or kit or software had been developed, otherwise there'd be the constant risk of one of them infecting systems then knocking it all sideways.

Then again, that could be another of the risks and tasks that would need to be attended to until those elements could all be completed and the risk of infection diminished sufficiently.

Much of which already factors with the M1200 UWP alterations
 
Are you referring to the UPWs presented in the TNE supplements, or the Hard Times process for updating UWPs in TNE, or both? Or something else?

All of the above.

The HT UWP process is essentially included in the TNE one.
Several sectors were released with 1200 Data; several more with 1117 data; there were (but they've disappeared) a few repositories with 1130 data derived from 1117, but they were never canon.

If one wants to use a no-virus 1130, HT is all you need to take the 1107/1116 data sets (which differ only slightly) and apply the HT changes.

Note that all canonical data for systems is currently the Travellermap dataset.
 
Is there a common date for the systems data in Travellermap? I had a look and some of it looks quite HT-ish or later.

The default date for TravellerMap is 1105.

Other datasets can be obtained by clicking the show options button in the upper right corner of the map and choosing the "clock" icon.
 
Are you referring to the UPWs presented in the TNE supplements, or the Hard Times process for updating UWPs in TNE, or both? Or something else?

I put together the Milieu 0, Rebellion and 1248 data sets appearing on travellermap.

Rebellion Data
None of the data reflects Hard Times. Even Diaspora. Diaspora had Rebellion and Hard Times UWPs in its book. For consistency of the time period, those are the Rebellion UWPs. HT fragments the sector into what you are expecting. The data reflects the sources I indicate on the bottom of sectors. The physical data I made to reflect 1105 data the social i changed only to be T5 clompliant.
Derived borders and other changes waere done to be more T5 compliant using inexorabletash's lint and mapping tools.

1248 Data.
The UWP are directly from the 1248 books. The borders in the other sectors were based on the main 1248 map. I scanned the map, blew it up and broke each sector into 32x40 grids and check what color each box mostly had.
 
The default date for TravellerMap is 1105.

Other datasets can be obtained by clicking the show options button in the upper right corner of the map and choosing the "clock" icon.

Got it - thanks. It took me a bit to notice the Enable Experiments button down in the Options. Great, now I get to spend more time pouring over Traveller star charts...
 
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