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[Matt123]

Just experimenting with ship design outputs for posting to COTI. I intend to generate an output that can be cut n pasted straight into a post. Just gotta figure out what that might look like. First two attempts, might play with the table options later.

v1

Free Trader (type A) 
TL9 Civilian Design
4 crew (Command 1+0, Engineering 0+1, Steward 0+1, Medic 0+1)
6 High passengers, 20 Low passengers, 83 ton cargo
___ton____cost_____ep_
200.00 | 10.00 | 0.00 | Hull standard, streamlined, fuel scoops
020.00 | 01.00 | 0.00 | Bridge
001.00 | 02.00 | 0.00 | Computer model 1
010.00 | 10.00 | 0.00 | Jump 1, standard drive A
001.00 | 04.00 | 0.00 | Maneuver 1, standard drive A
004.00 | 08.00 | 2.00 | Power 1, standard drive A
010.00 | 00.00 | 0.00 | Fuel, 4 weeks endurance
020.00 | 00.00 | 0.00 | Fuel, 1 parsec range
000.00 | 00.20 | 0.00 | 2 x hardpoints
000.67 | 00.25 | 0.00 | 1 x Sandcaster #2 (mixed turret)
000.33 | 00.50 | 1.00 | 1 x Pulse laser #1 (mixed turret)
040.00 | 05.00 | 0.00 | 10 x Staterooms
010.00 | 01.00 | 0.00 | 20 x Low berths
083.00 | 00.00 | 0.00 | Cargo
-------|-------|------|
200.00 | 41.95 | 1.00 | totals
-------|-------|------|
42.40 MCr for first ship in class, built in 48 weeks
33.48 MCr when built in volume, built in 39 weeks

v2

Free Trader (type A) 
TL9 Civilian Design
4 crew (Command 1+0, Engineering 0+1, Steward 0+1, Medic 0+1)
6 High passengers, 20 Low passengers, 83 ton cargo
___ton____cost_____ep_
200.00 | 10.00 |      | Hull standard, streamlined, fuel scoops
 20.00 |  1.00 |      | Bridge
  1.00 |  2.00 |      | Computer model 1
 10.00 | 10.00 |      | Jump 1, standard drive A
  1.00 |  4.00 |      | Maneuver 1, standard drive A
  4.00 |  8.00 |  2.0 | Power 1, standard drive A
 10.00 |       |      | Fuel, 4 weeks endurance
 20.00 |       |      | Fuel, 1 parsec range
       |  0.20 |      | 2 x hardpoints
  0.67 |  0.25 |      | 1 x Sandcaster #2 (mixed turret)
  0.33 |  0.50 | -1.0 | 1 x Pulse laser #1 (mixed turret)
 40.00 |  5.00 |      | 10 x Staterooms
 10.00 |  1.00 |      | 20 x Low berths
 83.00 |       |      | Cargo
-------|-------|------|
200.00 | 41.95 | 1.00 | totals
-------|-------|------|
42.40 MCr for first ship in class, built in 48 weeks
33.48 MCr when built in volume, built in 39 weeks

 

[Matt123]

The large gap between the text and the table appears to be a bug. The table inserts new lines equal to the number of rows --- perhaps because the newline character is outside the last tag on each line?

There is also a [tc] tag that takes an option. I tried [tc="red"] and [tc="bold"], neither did anything. I also tried [th], but no. What does "tc" represent? Is there a reference or users guide?

v3

Free Trader (type A)
TL9 Civilian Design
4 crew (Command 1+0, Engineering 0+1, Steward 0+1, Medic 0+1)
6 High passengers, 20 Low passengers, 83 ton cargo

ton	cost	ep
200.00	10.00		Hull standard, streamlined, fuel scoops
20.00	1.00		Bridge
1.00	2.00		Computer model 1
10.00	10.00		Jump 1, standard drive A
1.00	4.00		Maneuver 1, standard drive A
4.00	8.00	2.0	Power 1, standard drive A
10.00			Fuel, 4 weeks endurance
20.00			Fuel, 1 parsec range
0.20			2 x hardpoints
0.67	0.25		1 x Sandcaster #2 (mixed turret)
0.33	0.50	-1.0	1 x Pulse laser #1 (mixed turret)
40.00	5.00		10 x Staterooms
10.00	1.00		20 x Low berths
83.00			Cargo
-------	-------	------
200.00	41.95	1.00	totals

42.40 MCr for first ship in class, built in 48 weeks
33.48 MCr when built in volume, built in 39 weeks

 

[Matt123]

Bold tags work (ie: b and closing /b in square brackets can be cut n pasted)

[tc=red]Trying the tc option and giving it a color (tc = text color?), does something weird... I kinda like it, but its a little random.[/tc]

v4

Free Trader (type A)
TL9 Civilian Design
4 crew (Command 1+0, Engineering 0+1, Steward 0+1, Medic 0+1)
6 High passengers, 20 Low passengers, 83 ton cargo
(Ton, MCr, EP)
200.00 | 10.00 | 0.00 | Hull standard, streamlined, fuel scoops
020.00 | 01.00 | 0.00 | Bridge
001.00 | 02.00 | 0.00 | Computer model 1
010.00 | 10.00 | 0.00 | Jump 1, standard drive A
001.00 | 04.00 | 0.00 | Maneuver 1, standard drive A
004.00 | 08.00 | 2.00 | Power 1, standard drive A
010.00 | 00.00 | 0.00 | Fuel, 4 weeks endurance
020.00 | 00.00 | 0.00 | Fuel, 1 parsec range
000.00 | 00.20 | 0.00 | 2 x hardpoints
000.67 | 00.25 | 0.00 | 1 x Sandcaster #2 (mixed turret)
000.33 | 00.50 | 1.00 | 1 x Pulse laser #1 (mixed turret)
040.00 | 05.00 | 0.00 | 10 x Staterooms
010.00 | 01.00 | 0.00 | 20 x Low berths
083.00 | 00.00 | 0.00 | Cargo
-----------------------------------------
200.00 | 41.95 | 1.00 | totals

42.40 MCr for first ship in class, built in 48 weeks
33.48 MCr when built in volume, built in 39 weeks

 

[Matt123]

All three of bold, underline and italics can be implemented with tags. They don't seem to add a lot though.

v5

Free Trader (type A)
TL9 Civilian Design
4 crew (Command 1+0, Engineering 0+1, Steward 0+1, Medic 0+1)
6 High passengers, 20 Low passengers, 83 ton cargo
(Ton, MCr, EP)
200.00 | 10.00 | 0.00 | Hull standard, streamlined, fuel scoops
020.00 | 01.00 | 0.00 | Bridge
001.00 | 02.00 | 0.00 | Computer model 1
010.00 | 10.00 | 0.00 | Jump 1, standard drive A
001.00 | 04.00 | 0.00 | Maneuver 1, standard drive A
004.00 | 08.00 | 2.00 | Power 1, standard drive A
010.00 | 00.00 | 0.00 | Fuel, 4 weeks endurance
020.00 | 00.00 | 0.00 | Fuel, 1 parsec range
000.00 | 00.20 | 0.00 | 2 x Hardpoints
000.67 | 00.25 | 0.00 | 1 x Sandcaster #2 mixed turret
000.33 | 00.50 | 1.00 | 1 x Pulse laser #1 mixed turret
040.00 | 05.00 | 0.00 | 10 x Staterooms
010.00 | 01.00 | 0.00 | 20 x Low berths
083.00 | 00.00 | 0.00 | Cargo
200.00 | 41.95 | 1.00 | totals

42.40 MCr for first ship in class, built in 48 weeks
33.48 MCr when built in volume, built in 39 weeks

 

[Matt123]

Ok, after all that, I think the following works and it should work for both Bk2 and Bk5. It uses no tricks and looks good using common fonts like Times New Romon, Lucida, Arial, Tahoma (tested in MS word). This allows straight forward cut n paste into anything you want, be it game aids or web sites. Some fonts look even better and some worse as they cause the columns to be misaligned.

I'll knock this out over the couple of weeks. Any thoughts or improvements in the meantime, gratefully received.

v6

Free Trader (type A)
200 ton, TL9 Civilian Design, 41.95 MCr
4 crew (Command 1+0, Engineering 0+1, Steward 0+1, Medic 0+1)
6 High passengers, 20 Low passengers, 83 ton cargo
Agility 0, Emergency Agility 1
__Ton.__MCr.____EP.________
200.00 | 10.00 | __.__ | Hull standard, streamlined, fuel scoops
_20.00 | _1.00 | __.__ | Bridge
__1.00 | _2.00 | __.__ | Computer model 1
_10.00 | 10.00 | __.__ | Jump 1, standard drive A
__1.00 | _4.00 | __.__ | Maneuver 1, standard drive A
__4.00 | _8.00 | __.__ | Power 1, standard drive A
_10.00 | __.__ | __.__ | Fuel, 4 weeks endurance
_20.00 | __.__ | __.__ | Fuel, 1 parsec range
___.__ | _0.20 | __.__ | 2 x Hardpoints
__0.67 | _0.25 | __.__ | 1 x Sandcaster #2 (mixed turret)
__0.33 | _0.50 | _1.00 | 1 x Pulse laser #1 (mixed turret)
_40.00 | _5.00 | __.__ | 10 x Staterooms
_10.00 | _1.00 | __.__ | 20 x Low berths
_83.00 | __.__ | __.__ | Cargo
-----------------------------------------
200.00 | 41.95 | _1.00 EP used, PP generates 2.0

42.40 MCr for first ship in class, built in 48 weeks
33.48 MCr when built in volume, built in 39 weeks

 

[Matt123]

Just to finish this thread. Here is the end result.

Note that it is displayed in Courier New font (ta Aramis for the suggestion), a monospace type font and I manually emphasized the title.

Free Trader (type A)
200 ton, TL 9 Civilian Design, 41.85 MCr
4 crew (Command: 1+0, Engineer: 0+1, Steward: 0+1, Medic: 0+1)
6 High/Mid passengers, 20 Low passengers, 82 tons cargo
Agility 0, Emergency Agility 1
__Ton.____MCr.____EP.____
| ___.__ | 10.00 | _.__ | standard hull, streamlined , fuel scoops
| _20.00 | _1.00 | _.__ | bridge
| __1.00 | _2.00 | _.__ | computer model 1
| _10.00 | 10.00 | _.__ | drive jump #1
| __1.00 | _4.00 | _.__ | drive maneouver #1
| __4.00 | _8.00 | _.__ | power plant #1
| _10.00 | __.__ | _.__ | fuel, PP endurance 4 weeks (4 weeks powered down)
| _20.00 | __.__ | _.__ | fuel, jump range 1 parsecs
| __0.67 | _0.25 | _.__ | 1 x sand caster turret #2
| __0.33 | _0.50 | 1.00 | 1 x laser turret #1
| _40.00 | _5.00 | _.__ | 10 x stateroom
| _10.00 | _1.00 | _.__ | 20 x low berth
| _82.00 | __.__ | _.__ | cargo
| __1.00 | __.__ | _.__ | 1 x 1 ton Turret fire control
| ___.__ | _0.10 | _.__ | 1 x Hardpoint
-------------------------
| 200.00 | 41.85 | 1.00 EP used, PP generates 2.0 EPs

42.27 MCr for first ship in class, built in 48 weeks
33.48 MCr when built in volume, built in 39 weeks
CT Ship Designer by Matt. Visit https://tca-2014-12.herokuapp.com

 

[Dagrill]

Just to finish this thread. Here is the end result.

Note that it is displayed in Courier New font (ta Aramis for the suggestion), a monospace type font and I manually emphasized the title.

Free Trader (type A)
200 ton, TL 9 Civilian Design, 41.85 MCr
4 crew (Command: 1+0, Engineer: 0+1, Steward: 0+1, Medic: 0+1)
6 High/Mid passengers, 20 Low passengers, 82 tons cargo
Agility 0, Emergency Agility 1
__Ton.____MCr.____EP.____
| ___.__ | 10.00 | _.__ | standard hull, streamlined , fuel scoops
| _20.00 | _1.00 | _.__ | bridge
| __1.00 | _2.00 | _.__ | computer model 1
| _10.00 | 10.00 | _.__ | drive jump #1
| __1.00 | _4.00 | _.__ | drive maneouver #1
| __4.00 | _8.00 | _.__ | power plant #1
| _10.00 | __.__ | _.__ | fuel, PP endurance 4 weeks (4 weeks powered down)
| _20.00 | __.__ | _.__ | fuel, jump range 1 parsecs
| __0.67 | _0.25 | _.__ | 1 x sand caster turret #2
| __0.33 | _0.50 | 1.00 | 1 x laser turret #1
| _40.00 | _5.00 | _.__ | 10 x stateroom
| _10.00 | _1.00 | _.__ | 20 x low berth
| _82.00 | __.__ | _.__ | cargo
| __1.00 | __.__ | _.__ | 1 x 1 ton Turret fire control
| ___.__ | _0.10 | _.__ | 1 x Hardpoint
-------------------------
| 200.00 | 41.85 | 1.00 EP used, PP generates 2.0 EPs

42.27 MCr for first ship in class, built in 48 weeks
33.48 MCr when built in volume, built in 39 weeks
CT Ship Designer by Matt. Visit https://tca-2014-12.herokuapp.com

Hi Matt,

I design my ships in Excel, as it does the math for me, but when I've copied them into a post it looks awful, can you do a workthrough for converting excel
into easily readable posts please.

Thanks

David

 

[Matt123]

Hey David, I have used Excel and OpenOffice for years including ship designers and pocket empires, which took two spreadsheets I published a solo campaign after that rather large effort here. A lot of fun.

This thread was started to figure out what was needed to make an online CT ship designer useful to COTI members, but I never needed this for my spreadsheets as they were for personal use only. Anytime I needed to post a design I cut n pasted text into notepad (or these days gedit) and tried to make it readable.

For tips, put the values on the left as they maintain columns easier and use a monospace font like Courier New to maintain your formatting.

If you are interested, take a look at this online ship designer. Whatever you knock up, there is a listing at the bottom of the page (based on this thread) that you can cut n paste for COTI use.

 

[pendragonman]

Hey David, I have used Excel and OpenOffice for years including ship designers and pocket empires, which took two spreadsheets I published a solo campaign after that rather large effort here. A lot of fun.

This thread was started to figure out what was needed to make an online CT ship designer useful to COTI members, but I never needed this for my spreadsheets as they were for personal use only. Anytime I needed to post a design I cut n pasted text into notepad (or these days gedit) and tried to make it readable.

For tips, put the values on the left as they maintain columns easier and use a monospace font like Courier New to maintain your formatting.

If you are interested, take a look at this online ship designer. Whatever you knock up, there is a listing at the bottom of the page (based on this thread) that you can cut n paste for COTI use.

Do any of you guys have a good Mongoose ship designer? Ala Mongoose High Guard?

 

[Matt123]

My main interest has always been CT. Once I'm happy with this builder though it would be fairy straight forward to bolt on other versions. But its not on my horizon.

 

[Dagrill]

Hey David, I have used Excel and OpenOffice for years including ship designers and pocket empires, which took two spreadsheets I published a solo campaign after that rather large effort here. A lot of fun.

If you are interested, take a look at this online ship designer. Whatever you knock up, there is a listing at the bottom of the page (based on this thread) that you can cut n paste for COTI use.

Thanks,

I'll give it a go the next time I design a ship.

Regards

David

 

[Dagrill]

Do any of you guys have a good Mongoose ship designer? Ala Mongoose High Guard?

Sorry, I just use a spreadsheet and tweak, I have used it design several HG ships and also correct all the mongoose ones in Fighting ships.

Regards

David