mike wightman
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Its 500 cuft per dt which works out as 14.16kl; close enough to make little difference 
Need of an explanation: Tonnage of ships
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Confused yet, Lord Marcellus? (Now THAT has a nice Ring to it, What?)
The Hinterworlds Rambler
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The Hinterworlds Rambler
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snrdg082102
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Evening Chris Marcellus,
As you can see the unit of measure for a vessel's displacement tonnage used in Traveller has 3 values. In one of CT's core LBBs the actual unit of measure is stated as 13.5 m^3, but for convenience the measurement is rounded up to 14 m^3. Drat, I cannot find the reference again even though I stumbled across it a couple of hours ago looking for something else. As Sigg Oddra and Tanuki indicate converting CT, MT, TNE, T4, and T20 to GURPS:Traveller and additional confusion.
Anyway I hope all of this information somehow clarifies the original question.
As you can see the unit of measure for a vessel's displacement tonnage used in Traveller has 3 values. In one of CT's core LBBs the actual unit of measure is stated as 13.5 m^3, but for convenience the measurement is rounded up to 14 m^3. Drat, I cannot find the reference again even though I stumbled across it a couple of hours ago looking for something else. As Sigg Oddra and Tanuki indicate converting CT, MT, TNE, T4, and T20 to GURPS:Traveller and additional confusion.
Anyway I hope all of this information somehow clarifies the original question.
snrdg082102
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Evening Chris Marcellus,
As you can see the unit of measure for a vessel's displacement tonnage used in Traveller has 3 values. In one of CT's core LBBs the actual unit of measure is stated as 13.5 m^3, but for convenience the measurement is rounded up to 14 m^3. Drat, I cannot find the reference again even though I stumbled across it a couple of hours ago looking for something else. As Sigg Oddra and Tanuki indicate converting CT, MT, TNE, T4, and T20 to GURPS:Traveller and additional confusion.
Anyway I hope all of this information somehow clarifies the original question.
As you can see the unit of measure for a vessel's displacement tonnage used in Traveller has 3 values. In one of CT's core LBBs the actual unit of measure is stated as 13.5 m^3, but for convenience the measurement is rounded up to 14 m^3. Drat, I cannot find the reference again even though I stumbled across it a couple of hours ago looking for something else. As Sigg Oddra and Tanuki indicate converting CT, MT, TNE, T4, and T20 to GURPS:Traveller and additional confusion.
Anyway I hope all of this information somehow clarifies the original question.
snrdg082102
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Evening Chris Marcellus,
As you can see the unit of measure for a vessel's displacement tonnage used in Traveller has 3 values. In one of CT's core LBBs the actual unit of measure is stated as 13.5 m^3, but for convenience the measurement is rounded up to 14 m^3. Drat, I cannot find the reference again even though I stumbled across it a couple of hours ago looking for something else. As Sigg Oddra and Tanuki indicate converting CT, MT, TNE, T4, and T20 to GURPS:Traveller and additional confusion.
Anyway I hope all of this information somehow clarifies the original question.
As you can see the unit of measure for a vessel's displacement tonnage used in Traveller has 3 values. In one of CT's core LBBs the actual unit of measure is stated as 13.5 m^3, but for convenience the measurement is rounded up to 14 m^3. Drat, I cannot find the reference again even though I stumbled across it a couple of hours ago looking for something else. As Sigg Oddra and Tanuki indicate converting CT, MT, TNE, T4, and T20 to GURPS:Traveller and additional confusion.
Anyway I hope all of this information somehow clarifies the original question.
Straybow
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I've been stirring up as much trouble as possible on this point. Wander around the CT, IMTU, Lone Star forums and join in the frey!
I contend that, as originally formulated in LBB2, volume was not considered. It was just mass. Only when people tried to draw up deckplans (and what gamer wouldn't) did it become apparent that a volumetric standard was necessary.
I had only the 3 LBBs way back in '79, so I studied an aircraft carrier diagram and concluded that unarmored ocean vessels are around 350 ft³ per ton and used that figure. (I didn't have good measurements, high by at least 50%.) On graph paper scaled to 5' grid one ton was 2 squares assuming a 7' ceiling, which I stretched to 7½' for convenience.
Specific volume of LH2 at 20°K is 0.0710, or 14.08 m³/ton. Choosing that value as the volumetric standard means fuel tank percentage is unchanged from the original assumption of generic mass tonnage.
Wander around the CT, IMTU, Lone Star forums and join in the frey!I contend that, as originally formulated in LBB2, volume was not considered. It was just mass. Only when people tried to draw up deckplans (and what gamer wouldn't) did it become apparent that a volumetric standard was necessary.
I had only the 3 LBBs way back in '79, so I studied an aircraft carrier diagram and concluded that unarmored ocean vessels are around 350 ft³ per ton and used that figure. (I didn't have good measurements, high by at least 50%.) On graph paper scaled to 5' grid one ton was 2 squares assuming a 7' ceiling, which I stretched to 7½' for convenience.
Specific volume of LH2 at 20°K is 0.0710, or 14.08 m³/ton. Choosing that value as the volumetric standard means fuel tank percentage is unchanged from the original assumption of generic mass tonnage.
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Gee, like we hadn't noticed?Originally posted by Straybow:
I've been stirring up as much trouble as possible on this point.
Seriously, I think that the volume ton probably does date to the early timeframe...
Since reference to displacement is in the text on hulls in every printing of Bk2 I've read (Not that that's terribly conclusive) (my copy at-hand is a 12th printing, the reference is page 10).
Gee, like we hadn't noticed?Originally posted by Straybow:
I've been stirring up as much trouble as possible on this point.
Seriously, I think that the volume ton probably does date to the early timeframe...
Since reference to displacement is in the text on hulls in every printing of Bk2 I've read (Not that that's terribly conclusive) (my copy at-hand is a 12th printing, the reference is page 10).
Gee, like we hadn't noticed?Originally posted by Straybow:
I've been stirring up as much trouble as possible on this point.
Seriously, I think that the volume ton probably does date to the early timeframe...
Since reference to displacement is in the text on hulls in every printing of Bk2 I've read (Not that that's terribly conclusive) (my copy at-hand is a 12th printing, the reference is page 10).
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