Native Intelligent Life

[mike wightman]

The difficulty isn't even explaining why you have several intelligent races, the difficulty is explaining how and why several intelligent species have reached roughly the same level of technology at the same time.

What I like about T5 is the eras - preancient when advanced races rose up (probably several times) and disappeared (for reasons the TL chart actually give that make sense); you then have the ancient era with the droyne/ancients modifying species (humans were already intelligent, they uplifted wolves); we then have a hundred thousand years before at least one more advanced space faring race appears on the scene then disappears.

Then we enter the 'modern' era; Humaniti, Vargr, K'kree and Hivers all achieve a jump capable society within only a few thousand years of each other so no-one has a significant advantage over the others.

Co-incidence or ancient meddling to preserve stability or possibly build a resource...

 

[robject]

The difficulty isn't even explaining why you have several intelligent races, the difficulty is explaining how and why several intelligent species have reached roughly the same level of technology at the same time.

It's only difficult with people who know and care about Fermi's Paradox... but yes I agree.

What I like about T5 is the eras

Totally agreed there too.

 

[aramis]

It's only difficult with people who know and care about Fermi's Paradox... but yes I agree.

Fermi's paradox is an interesting issue...

While we can pick up a 20w transmission at 65 AU, barely, (Voyager probes still transmit) with the DSN scopes, a parsec is 206,264.806 AU. 3173 times as far. a signal would need to be 3173^2 times the strength, roughly, or roughly 10 million times the strength or 200 megawatts, to be picked up at 1 Parsec.
at 2 Pc, 800 MW. at 3 Pc, 1.8 GW.

Fermi's paradox essentially boils down to establishing only that no radio using civilizations are within about 10 Pc... because, at those ranges, dedicated extremely high gain antennae are going to have to be locked on and on the exact right frequencies...

Even at 1 Pc, no given RF signal is large enough to read as a steady signal except power grid hum.

 

[robject]

Fermi's paradox essentially boils down to establishing only that no radio using civilizations are within about 10 Pc...

It goes further than that. Because stars are at all stages of a something-longer-than 'geologic' time scale, and evolutionary time scales are a couple orders of magnitude faster than that, then: if there were intelligent life, why aren't they here?

Yes, there are further assumptions, such as it's possible and reasonable to colonize other worlds at any speeds at all.

 

[kilemall]

RTT Worldgen handles this issue too, take a careful look at the biosphere bit. Should be very familiar to everyone here, I would think.

http://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/RTT_Worldgen


This is important for my Terrans as they are averse to killing off biomes for terraforming, their scruples are cramping their expansion space already.

I've already generated an intelligent life world that humanity has not reached yet, it's gonna be a barn burner MAJOR event in my verse, and they are full on alien.

 

[Ulsyus]

I've already generated an intelligent life world that humanity has not reached yet, it's gonna be a barn burner MAJOR event in my verse, and they are full on alien.

Then your PCs should have a pretty fantastic time when they encounter them. That is one of the things Traveller is all about!