More Mongoose Meddling or Welcome Wonderment?

[aramis]

I actually like the idea of T2300 being an historical period of the OTU - so much so that IMTU it is. The various aliens still make an appearance in the 57th century too

Every indication prior to release made T:2300 look like it was supposed to be the early OTU. Then it came out...

 

[mike wightman]

Yup.

I also have a vague memory of a letter/article from GDW along the lines of they were considering re-booting the OTU using the technology from T2300...

 

[aramis]

Yup.

I also have a vague memory of a letter/article from GDW along the lines of they were considering re-booting the OTU using the technology from T2300...

As do I, but I can't remember WHERE that was published. Not Dragon; I've checked the CD archives for it.

 

[mbrinkhues]

Yup.

I also have a vague memory of a letter/article from GDW along the lines of they were considering re-booting the OTU using the technology from T2300...

There where plans under way to reboot 2300AD using the TNE game engine as part of the "system consolidation" going on with GDW. The TNE tech supplement included the needed tech stuff like Stutterwarp and spin gravity already.

There was an article in a late 60s/early 70s issue of challenge with the core sector of 2300AD as a "hexmap" with in Traveller style. But that was IIRC fan work, not GDW official

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As for the background: Please keep them separat and please keep the Twilight War. Nothing beats a good Iwan kicking followed by collective exchange of TacNukes on the german-german border for a nice startup.

 

[mike wightman]

There where plans under way to reboot 2300AD using the TNE game engine as part of the "system consolidation" going on with GDW. The TNE tech supplement included the needed tech stuff like Stutterwarp and spin gravity already.

There was an article in a late 60s/early 70s issue of challenge with the core sector of 2300AD as a "hexmap" with in Traveller style. But that was IIRC fan work, not GDW official

Yes I remember that and have the Challenge you mention.

But I definitely remember an interview/article with a GDW employee who mentioned that the original T2300 tech would 'overwrite' the OTU - let's face it GDW changed the OTU tech paradigm a few times.

As for the background: Please keep them separat and please keep the Twilight War. Nothing beats a good Iwan kicking followed by collective exchange of TacNukes on the german-german border for a nice startup.

That would make it an alternative universe game rather than a sci-fi future history.

The Twilight War needs to be set in our near future - 2050ish should do it - IMHO

 

[mbrinkhues]

The only "big changes" in OTU tech where with TNE

+ Heplar instead of Thrusters
+ Bigger missiles
+ Bigger lasers

The 2300AD tech OTOH is TOTALLY different

+ No J-Drive
+ No Heplar, the Thrusters are far weaker
+ No artificial gravity
+ Resonably effective screens since all weapons are beam-based
+ FTL capabel missiles (outside the FTL shelf)
+ No size limit on FTL craft
+ Totally different range limit (7.7Lj vs. up to 20 Lj at J6)
+ Different flying times. Fast ships could do J2 in less than 96 hours including discharges

You would have to completely rewrite the universe to match the 2300AD tech.

 

[far-trader]

The only "big changes" in OTU tech where with TNE

+ Heplar instead of Thrusters
+ Bigger missiles
+ Bigger lasers

...and jump fuel in MT

...and sensors, weapons, computers, etc. in a few of them

...depending of course on definitions of "big changes". And I'm probably forgetting a few.

Agreed though, the tech between Traveller and 2300 have some rather large breaks.

I too recall vaguely a translation article, somewhere. And someone more recently working on blending the two, where 2300AD was closely related but divergent. Stutterwarp was a precursor to Jump-Drive, the other tech, and lack of, were down to being behind Traveller average TL (no gravity manipulation being the big one). I seem to recall they pretty much had it all nailed down but couldn't get any takers for making it an official publication so they moved on to other stuff. Or I could be mixing up a few works there

 

[mbrinkhues]

Computers are not that big a change. The CT "bridge" is simply dropped and split up in MT/TNE (and sadly re-introduced in MGT). Same for sensors (TNE drops Neutrino sensors)

I tend to ignore the tech-changes in GT since that system is "waaay off" in all aspects. Granted over the last 2 years my tendency has become to ignore more and more elements of GT so the tech is a minor aspect.

 

[Gallowglacht]

TNE has Neutrino sensors.

 

[mbrinkhues]

TNE has Neutrino sensors.

Shipboard ones? IIRC there was a "we have spoken with a guy who uses IRL ND and ..." passage that caused them to be dropped

 

[Gallowglacht]

Shipboard ones? IIRC there was a "we have spoken with a guy who uses IRL ND and ..." passage that caused them to be dropped

The scout in the back of the book has them, as does the lab ship and the Donosev and they are listed in the section for sensors.