Hull tonnage of Star Wars ships?
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far-trader
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I worked up some deckplans for the Millennium Falcon a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away
<ahem> sorry 'bout that
couldn't resist going there after I typed "a long time ago"Anyway, iirc the old bird worked out to 300dT, hmm, a 300dT flattened sphere, where have I.. hey! I just worked up a 300dT flattened sphere for T20, I wonder...
I feel a variation coming up, I wonder if I can find my old deckplan doodles...
Here's 200 dTon version of the Chrono Rapter by Paul Schirf:
http://www.schirf.com/traveller/images/YT-1300.gif
I thought it was neat when I came across it.
Rob
http://www.schirf.com/traveller/images/YT-1300.gif
I thought it was neat when I came across it.
Rob
Hi,
Which ships do you want, I have converted virtually all the starwars ships in the Imperial Source book into Issue 2 High Guard.
I got the super star destroyer a 1 million tons, an imperial star destroyer at 400ktn and a victory SD at about 200ktn (although some of the troops got dropped).
Cheers
Richard
Which ships do you want, I have converted virtually all the starwars ships in the Imperial Source book into Issue 2 High Guard.
I got the super star destroyer a 1 million tons, an imperial star destroyer at 400ktn and a victory SD at about 200ktn (although some of the troops got dropped).
Cheers
Richard
An Imperial Star Destroyer is 2/5s the size of a super star destroyer? A Star Destroyer is 1600 meters long, and a Super 8,000 meters long. Just taking lengths into consideration that is 1/5, and when volumes are used you're talking about 125 times smaller if the proportions are the same. However I'd say it's more likely to be around 70-80 times the volume.
Yeah,
true, but I was working within the restrictions of HG that had 1 million tns as biggest ship, so that limited the size of the biggest vessel, and the rest were scaled down from there, SD and cruisers were upped in displacement otherwise they would be too small. It seemed to work out okay
true, but I was working within the restrictions of HG that had 1 million tns as biggest ship, so that limited the size of the biggest vessel, and the rest were scaled down from there, SD and cruisers were upped in displacement otherwise they would be too small. It seemed to work out okay
You could have continued past 1,000,000 tons. Easy enough to extrapolate the higher levels. Still I remember making At-Ats with the Megatraveller construction rules.
yeah, I could have gone above 1mtns and did for the super-super star destroyers from the latter books, but I was trying to stay vaguely within the rules. HG does not cope with the planet sized warships so often found in films and fiction.
As for the AT-AT tried to do them using the striker rules, but they were so massive they were difficult to transport and made such an easy target (I was getting to to hit DMs in double figures - oh well)!!
Cheers
Richard
As for the AT-AT tried to do them using the striker rules, but they were so massive they were difficult to transport and made such an easy target (I was getting to to hit DMs in double figures - oh well)!!
Cheers
Richard
The best site I hav found on Star Wars ships is http://www.synicon.com.au/sw/index.html#
Including this excellent page on rational deckplan design
http://www.synicon.com.au/sw/index.html#
In Traveller we are lucky that we have the engine/fuel/habitability percentages defined by the rules.
Including this excellent page on rational deckplan design
http://www.synicon.com.au/sw/index.html#
In Traveller we are lucky that we have the engine/fuel/habitability percentages defined by the rules.
I think Han Solo's ship is worth something like Cr30,000 in Star Wars Credits. How much do you think it would be worth in the OTU? A Han Solo in the OTU wouldn't worry about owing such a piddling sum to Jabba the Hut. With Traveller starships costing about tens or millions of credits, the amount Han Solo Owed is just chicken scratch.
Father Fletch
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Tom,
In the Revised Star Wars D20 rules the Melinnium Falcon is worth over 1 MCr. He owes Jabba something like half that, IIRC.
In the Revised Star Wars D20 rules the Melinnium Falcon is worth over 1 MCr. He owes Jabba something like half that, IIRC.
I ask this 'cause the Millenium F is only, like, 27 meters long, which is as long as a 50dton modular cutter (at least according to TNE stats). This would, to me, mean that the M Falcon isn't more than a 100dton ship, although it seems to be more profitable under the WEG d6 version of the Star Wars RPG.
How many Traveller ships are a kilometer or more long?
How many Traveller ships are a kilometer or more long?
I think Star Wars Starships are just cheaper than Traveller Starships. Han Solo doesn't have to be a multimillionare to own the Millenium Falcon. In the OTU the Millenium Falcon would be a Far Trader Variant. Since the Falcon has a reputation for being fast I'd give it an enhanced Jump potential of at least 3 while staying within starship construction rules. Han Solo won his ship in a card game, that's still possible in the OTU, his opponent would have had to have been very drunk to put up the title of a Mcr70+ Starship on the card table.
Or the 1.6km of the original B5 Omega class? (Over 100 times the size of USS Nimitz, and assuming tonnage is the same cost and the entire world has the same economy as the US, the EA would have only 2).
I think theres a huge problem with SF ships in general, and I think it's confusion over feet and meters. A Nimitz is roughly a thousand feet long, but look how many "Space Carriers" are about 1000m long.
Bryn
far-trader
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Well, no luck tracking down my old doodles so I went hunting for some new specs. You should really read the whole Millenium Falcon series here Jame, you'll find it quite illuminating, especially some of the size problems. I think he added some stuff since I last visited ages ago, and at the end of it all is probably the best choice of deckplans for it.
Based on this I did a little quick doodling and it looks like the ship is around 150T, though I think you could inflate that to 200T to allow the two hardpoints for the turrets in Traveller. Looks like the equivalent of 4 staterooms and about 10T of cargo space. Engineering looks like around 25T and 50T of fuel below and above the main deck. Oh don't forget the smuggle holds
S
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It all dependence on how your displacement are measure 14 m3 or 1 m3 in case of water.
far-trader
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Standard 14m3 (or 13.5m3, depending on the system), though for the rough estimate I made I just used the scale on the picture treating the 10' as 3m (I know very sloppy, but for a drawing of this size and detail its adequate IMO)
From there I measured the radius of the saucer section, and the thickness, both rounded to the nearest 1.5m, getting a radius of 12.0m and a through thickness of 4.5m which gives ~2035m3 which gives between 145T and 150T. Now the saucer section does curve down towards the edge, but also has some projections, and my measure was rough. Then there's also the extra for the mandibles and cockpit. In the end decided on 150T total (for reasons you'll see) and worked up a quick rough first draft of the T20 version (to be posted below shortly).
far-trader
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Oops, hit the send too fast. I forgot to welcome you aboard Sophiathegreen, in case Liam in the welcome wagon hasn't spotted you yet.
So, well met and welcome
So, well met and welcome
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