Gun Combat Cascade

[ChalkLine]

How about instead of the current Rifleman/Combat Rifleman we use;

Rifleman:
- Carbine
- Hunting Rifle
- Light Assault Gun
- Rifle
- Shotgun

Combat Rifleman:
- Advanced Combat Rifle
- Assault Rifle
- Auto Rifle
- Carbine
- Gauss Rifle
- Hunting Rifle
- Light Assault Gun
- Rifle
- Shotgun
- Sub Machinegun

A user of 'rifleman' can use any 'combat rifleman' weapon on semiautomatic. If a user of 'rifleman' gains 'combat rifleman' of skill level 0 or higher, all 'rifleman' skill levels are converted to 'combat rifleman' levels.

 

[Jame]

I would add Gauss Rifle to the Rifleman cascade, and explain it as the civilian version, and remove Light Assault Gun.

Otherwise it's adopted.

 

[ChalkLine]

Well, the LAG is based on the Barret M82 .50 calibre rifle, which strictly speaking isn't illegal or particularly hard to use. While it may be hard to aquire, I can see rifleman being the skill for it.

I'd definitely see a case for civilianised semiauto versions of the ACR, Gauss Rifle etc. According to the original CT, the 'carbine' is a semiauto Ar-15 or similiar M16 clone. In MTU it is a PDW like the FN Herstal P90 to differentiate it from an assault rifle.

 

[DonM]

Interesting. I just combined them as "rifleman" and don't discriminate. I figure that there's just not enough of a difference between military and civilian rifles for me to get excited about.

Like the difference between a rifle and a carbine in CT -- didn't understand that break either...

 

[ChalkLine]

Good point Dom. I think I was just trying a fix without looking into the actual mechanic to see if the premise was flawed.

I guess my only argument is that I've separated the weapons into semi/automatic and automatic. As a civilian myself, I wouldn't know how to shoot a weapon on full automatic, and in my ignorance I've assumed that it's probably fairly difficult. Seeing how the AK-47 seems to be operated by a large amount of users globally, perhaps I'm assuming it's harder than it is. Any military people out there wanna help me out on this?

 

[aramis]

My experience with autofire is limited (Atchison 12ga... the "Room Broom"...)

Autofire is one of those cases where the skill isn't in the aim, but in controlling the recoil to a useful trajectory, at least with the Atchison. It climbs, and badly... but with it at the correct roll, you can use that to sweep a room...

I've fired an M16 on 3-rd... in Basic. We only got one clip of autofire.

With the M16, it's not bad, just aim low, and let her rip. 2 of 3 should hit a man-side target at 50m. Again, rolling it should allow directional control.

Now, rapid fire (of a Semi-auto) has similar climb issues, and that I've done. With a .32 ACP, it's pretty darned good (1st two hit a bowling pin at 15m).

It's a very different style of fire, though. I think a single autofire skill, effective skill limited to the lower of autofire or the base weapon type, is a reasonable model.

 

[Jame]

Well, the LAG is based on the Barret M82 .50 calibre rifle, which strictly speaking isn't illegal or particularly hard to use. While it may be hard to aquire, I can see rifleman being the skill for it.

I'd definitely see a case for civilianised semiauto versions of the ACR, Gauss Rifle etc. According to the original CT, the 'carbine' is a semiauto Ar-15 or similiar M16 clone. In MTU it is a PDW like the FN Herstal P90 to differentiate it from an assault rifle.

I still think that (a.) Traveller meant to use the LAG as a squad support weapon and that (b.) it is not at all useful as such. However, I suppose I can see it being a specialist weapon, although most civilians would not be allowed them IMTU.