Crucis Margin Sector is now complete.

[maksimsmelchak]

Crucis Margin Sector is now complete.
* All 424 out of 424 T5SS entries have been made.
* 16 out of 16 subsectors.
* There are 0 non-canon worlds.
* All entries now have binary and trinary solar system data noted.
* All entries now have updated and expanded trade codes with color text.

Please check it out here: [http://wiki.travellerrpg.com/Crucis_Margin_Sector ]

Crucis Margin Sector will soon be under review by the T5SS group and it is hoped that a fully-input Crucis Margin Sector at the Traveller Wiki will be a very useful tool during this review.

Here's how you can help:
* Any encouragement is always welcome. It always nice to hear that this kind of resource will be useful to you as a player, referee, or otherwise. Please feel free to make positive comments on this thread.

* Take a look through Crucis Margin Sector and look for errors, typos, omissions, etc. Please feel free to comment at the Wiki or here on this thread.

* Very few of the worlds have reference sources yet. If you know which canon or non-canon sources are behind any T5SS world, please share at the Wiki or here on this thread.

* If you have any ideas to make the entries better, please share. The goal of the Wiki is to provide the Traveller community with a top notch resource.

* Please also be aware that Traveller Wiki is not considered a canon source and that the Traveller Wiki is in accordance with FFE usage guidelines. If anyone finds any material out of accordance with FFE usage guidelines, please let one of the users know so that it can be immediately corrected.

* I'd like to publicly thank Thomas Jones-Low (Tjoneslo) and all of the other Wiki contributors, past and present. I really appreciate his hard work and guidance. And, of course, the Traveller Wiki is built upon the contributions of the community. Nearly every entry is built upon the hard work of people who came before...

Thank you!

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.

 

[Spartan159]

You've been busy! Hope you are having fun with this, it seems like a lot of work.

 

[whulorigan]

Crucis Margin Sector is now complete.
* All 424 out of 424 T5SS entries have been made.
* 16 out of 16 subsectors.
* There are 0 non-canon worlds.
* All entries now have binary and trinary solar system data noted.
* All entries now have updated and expanded trade codes with color text.

Please check it out here: [http://wiki.travellerrpg.com/Crucis_Margin_Sector ]

Crucis Margin Sector will soon be under review by the T5SS group and it is hoped that a fully-input Crucis Margin Sector at the Traveller Wiki will be a very useful tool during this review.

Just a note of interest:
The metadata for the article has this to say:

Meta-history & Background

The Crucis Margin Sector was originally published in 1981 by Judges Guild.

• When Judges Guild lost their Traveller licence, the data published in the sector book was de-canonized.
• When the Sunbane data was published in 1989, the star locations and UWP information was completely redone.

The Sunbane data was the basis for the 2004 Gateway to Destiny book, the now official canon on this sector.

• Unlike the Ley and Glimmerdrift reaches sectors, the subsector names have been changed as well as the stars and political entities.

That last bolded/underlined statement is actually not 100% correct.

The interesting thing to note about it is that MJD's material for Ley Sector, Glimmerdrift Reaches Sector, and Maranatha-Alkahest/Gateway Sector all use the same subsector names as the JG material, but the world names, UWPs, and stellar positions, and polities are all different.

Crucis Margin Sector, on the other hand, is the exact opposite: all of the Subsector names and polities in MJD's material are different, but the names, positions, and UWPs (adjusted for year 1000) of the worlds are all the same as the JG material.

Compare:

Crucis Margin (Canon - MJD) - TravellerMap
Crucis Margin (Non-Canon - JG) - TravellerMap

 

[maksimsmelchak]

Hi Wayne! Thanks for chipping in. You always have good things to say.

Just a note of interest:
The metadata for the article has this to say:

That last bolded/underlined statement is actually not 100% correct.

Wow. I think Thomas originally typed that metadata line. I came up with the categories (headings) for publications earlier this year.

I guess that article will need to be updated.

*** Do you mind if I port over some of this data to put in the discussion for the page? ***

The interesting thing to note about it is that MJD's material for Ley Sector, Glimmerdrift Reaches Sector, and Maranatha-Alkahest/Gateway Sector all use the same subsector names as the JG material, but the world names, UWPs, and stellar positions, and polities are all different.

MJD = Martin Dougherty
JG = Judge's Guild

That's really interesting.

Crucis Margin Sector, on the other hand, is the exact opposite: all of the Subsector names and polities in MJD's material are different, but the names, positions, and UWPs (adjusted for year 1000) of the worlds are all the same as the JG material.

MJD = Martin Dougherty
JG = Judge's Guild

I had no idea. That's a really valuable observation.

Compare:
Crucis Margin (Canon - MJD) - TravellerMap
Crucis Margin (Non-Canon - JG) - TravellerMap

Thank you

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.

 

[inexorabletash]

Crucis Margin Sector, on the other hand, is the exact opposite: all of the Subsector names and polities in MJD's material are different, but the names, positions, and UWPs (adjusted for year 1000) of the worlds are all the same as the JG material.

Wow - never noticed!

I just checked Gateway to Destiny and JG's Crucis Margin and yep - no data mixups, they match. Interestingly, GtD disavows the JG material (page 3) but mentions it attempts to stay consistent with other material.

 

[maksimsmelchak]

You've been busy! Hope you are having fun with this, it seems like a lot of work.

Hi Spartan159,

It is a lot of work and I do enjoy it, while at the same time some of it is certainly a chore, but a worthwhile one. I see it as having immense value for the community.

Having the basic data up makes it tremendously easier for someone else to follow and create flavor data to fill in the "description (planetography)" and "History & Background (Dossier)" categories. And the flavor data is what makes the worlds really interesting.

At some point, I'll take a break and pull a "Jae" and start writing more creative entries for all of the planets, one at a time. I already have a few sectors (five so far) worth of developed material that I hope to work with Marc, Don, and some of the publishers out there to make into subsector and sector books. I've been at this for over twenty years.

The other big take-away is that Thomas Jones-Low is a genius with bots and automation and the more I, and others, help standardize and code worlds, subsectors and sectors to a uniform standard, the closer it gets him to being able to set up automated updates, linked to T5SS (Traveller Map), for all of the Wiki. Thomas and I have already come up with standardized code for trade classifications, bases, and other important data to make it easy for quick updates of thousands or worlds at a time.

I am also working at ways to integrate all of the T5SS data into world entries. I am working on the nobility and cultural codes as a near future addition.

I really see the Wiki as a great complement to the Traveller Map. I have some Wiki coding experience myself and hope to help with the creation of that much-needed automation at some point. Until then, I'm working with what exists now, which is mostly manually entry although I supplement that with some clever coding and templates of my own. It goes pretty quickly at speed. Sometimes I can get an entire T5SS world entry up in less than 45 seconds. Some take longer, up to a few minutes.

I'm not rushing, but I do hope to give a lot back to the Traveller community in the next 10 or more years. This is mostly a hobby for me. I got a lot out of it as a teenager and young adult. I'm still enjoying it today. I'd like to give back.

Thanks very much for your kind words. They are greatly appreciated.

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.

 

[whulorigan]

*** Do you mind if I port over some of this data to put in the discussion for the page? ***

That will be fine.

 

[whulorigan]

Wow - never noticed!

I just checked Gateway to Destiny and JG's Crucis Margin and yep - no data mixups, they match. Interestingly, GtD disavows the JG material (page 3) but mentions it attempts to stay consistent with other material.

I am aware of one world-name that was changed in Crucis Margin:

L2623:
Tubroyllufotyusk (The Dryone Oytrip in the MJD material)
Ecija (the "Common" name [apparently] in the JG material)

 

[maksimsmelchak]

That will be fine.

Thank you.

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.

 

[maksimsmelchak]

I am aware of one world-name that was changed in Crucis Margin:

L2623:
Tubroyllufotyusk (The Dryone Oytrip in the MJD material)
Ecija (the "Common" name [apparently] in the JG material)

I updated the entry to reflect this data.

External Link: [http://wiki.travellerrpg.com/Tubroyllufotyusk_(world)) ]

Thank you again.

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.

 

[maksimsmelchak]

I will also share my allegiance calculations for the sector:

424 worlds

69% NaHu: "Non-Aligned, Human-dominated" = 23 + 21 + 20 + 3 + 16 + 21 + 11 + 24 + 25 + 26 + 21 + 23 + 8 + 13 + 20 + 19 = 294 TOTAL 294 / 424 = 69%
09% MrCo: "Mercantile Concord" = 2 + 30 + 5 = 37 TOTAL 37 / 424 = 9%
04% OlWo: "Old Worlds" = 6 + 6 + 2 + 5 = 19 TOTAL 19 / 424 = 4%
04% SyRe: "Syzlin Republic" = 3 + 3 + 3 + 8 = 17 TOTAL 17 / 424 = 4%
03% GdKa: "Grand Duchy of Kalradin" = 11 = 11 TOTAL 11 / 424 = 3%
03% KaCo: "Katowice Conquest" = 9 = 9 TOTAL 9 / 424 = 2%
01% CsHv: "Client state, Hiver Federation" = 6 = 6 TOTAL 6 / 424 = 1%
01% CsIm: "Client state, Third Imperium" = 1 = 1 TOTAL 1 / 424 = 1%
01% FeAm: "Federation of Amil" = 1 + 4 = 5 TOTAL 5 / 424 = 1%
01% GlFe: "Glimmerdrift Federation" = 2 = 2 TOTAL 2 /424 = 1%
01% KaWo: "Karhyri Worlds" = 6 = 6 TOTAL 6 / 424 = 1%
01% MiCo: "Mische Conglomerate" = 4 + 5 = 9 TOTAL 9 / 424 = 2%
01% NaXX: "Non-Aligned, unclaimed" = 2 + 1 = 3 TOTAL 3 / 424 = 1%
01% Reac: "The Reach" = 2 + 3 = 5 TOTAL 5 / 424 = 1%

100%

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.

 

[simonh]

I never really paid any attention to this end of the OTU before, but Gateway Domain looks like an interesting region. In some ways it's like a vastly expanded Trojan reach - a region of disparate small polities and independent worlds between larger interstellar states. It would be interesting to take Pirates of Drinax and adapt it's ideas to this larger playground.

Simon Hibbs