Characteristics of Zero?

[Garnfellow]

In MgT, you can have physical characteristics or INT drop to zero due to combat damage, aging, and other effects.

But could you have EDU or SOC scores of zero? In T5, synthetics (think replicants) have these characteristics set at zero.

 

[whulorigan]

In MgT, you can have physical characteristics or INT drop to zero due to combat damage, aging, and other effects.

But could you have EDU or SOC scores of zero? In T5, synthetics (think replicants) have these characteristics set at zero.

My opinion would be that "zero" is just what it implies (whether temporary effect, or permanent loss, as appropriate to situation):

STR=0 --> Total loss of musculature (or ability to use and apply it)
DEX=0 --> Total lack of motor-neuron or hand-eye coordination (cannot manipulate objects / complete loss of fine-control)
END=0 --> Total exhaustion / unconscious

INT=0 --> Mental Vegetable (or catatonic/comatose)
EDU=0 --> Complete memory loss
SOC=0 --> No recognized standing in society (e.g. a robot or other property or non-person)

 

[Winged Cat]

For anything but SOC, a stat of 0 means you can no longer function. You're alive, but unable to move effectively until (and unless) all your non-SOC stats are at least 1.

SOC merely affects how people treat you, though SOC 0 may be unplayable. Those who think it might be cool to play a slave, imagine a slave with agency who is still allowed to think on their own, which is arguably SOC 1. SOC 0 - which is arguably impossible if the character is still free willed enough to reject it (said rejection arguably bumping up to SOC 1) - is more like "don't bother having a player".

 

[Grav_Moped]

Slight issue there.

A character with SOC-0 is a non-person from a legal and societal standpoint.

An individual's rejection of their status as an outcast/non-person doesn't affect how the law or society sees or treats them.

Robots or synthetics may be programmed or conditioned to accept their status. Other sophonts may or may not be (and if they are, the effects may not be permanent).

 

[Condottiere]

What has zero status, an animal?

As a wolfs-head, you can be killed without legal repercussions, or due process.

Your status within an outcast society would require a sub-characteristic.

 

[Nathan Brazil]

Mgt 1e Animals have Pack which I use in interactions between humans and animals. And divide the modifier in half of course.

I personally did not like how CT did animals. It seemed they were too much like hit point punching bags.

 

[Grav_Moped]

What has zero status, an animal?

As a wolfs-head, you can be killed without legal repercussions, or due process.

Your status within an outcast society would require a sub-characteristic.

SOC conflates a few things. The first is how society officially sees you -- things like credit scores, employment history and current job, criminal record, security clearances, political and social influence, and so on. The second is how society informally sees you, in terms of dress and appearance, comportment, mannerisms, apparent wealth, and the like. The third is the set of cultural norms and standards within which you were raised, some of which affect how you're seen and others affecting how you think of yourself.

 

[Condottiere]

The Confederation might have a Social Credit.

Social Standing is pretty much your position in the feudal hierarchy of the Imperium, or the Solomani Party, nearer to home.