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I'd buy the T20 PDF...
I discovered during the playtest that I actually prefer to use PDF's... I'm far less worried about damage (I can replace damaged pages), and for things i use seldom, can reduce the page count to half or fourth by using print drivers to shrink. Also, I can extract the tables pages easier. And, as I did with Arrowflight, I can pul certain pages raw data out for making a GM screen that's laid out really well for me.
I discovered during the playtest that I actually prefer to use PDF's... I'm far less worried about damage (I can replace damaged pages), and for things i use seldom, can reduce the page count to half or fourth by using print drivers to shrink. Also, I can extract the tables pages easier. And, as I did with Arrowflight, I can pul certain pages raw data out for making a GM screen that's laid out really well for me.
daltoncalford
SOC-12
I have been considering this, and, since Mark has commited to the traveller reprints I decided to buy the new materials instead of buying used.
If Mark is going to keep on producing new material, he needs to see a income.
I guess what I really want to get across to Mark is that the production he puts into any new pdf's does not have to be the same as he would put into a modern print rpg. In fact, if he put the entire T5 stuff he has into a simple text layout - say like the origional LBB's, I know I would buy.
As for the current MT stuff, although the scans of the pages are sort of nice, I would rather the OCR'd text be edited and corrected with errata and put on the cd in a plain and simple format.
The extra labour would incur extra costs. I would be willing to pay extra for that.
I have bought the T20 rules, and although our gaming group has each borrowed it, no one is interested in playing it.
TNE was purchased and used as a gaming setting, but with MT rules, while gurps traveller was good to get a couple of new players who played gurps into playing Traveller.
I am going to buy the MT CDrom when it is released. I am going to buy T5 when it is released.
If T5 uses the roll under task system, I personally will continue to use MT's task system and BITS "at close quarters" for combat.
best regards
Dalton
mike wightman
SOC-14 10K
Add me to the list of people who would buy T20 as a pdf.
I also agree with Casey that the QLI print products should continue to be available as pdf's.
I don't know how much that would affect sales of the print products though?
I also agree with Casey that the QLI print products should continue to be available as pdf's.
I don't know how much that would affect sales of the print products though?
Dalton,
I hope you realize that by buying them you have now given DriveThru one more reason to not stop producing the opressive DRM pdf's. And you have in fact made it even harder for yourself to use an alternative operating system. It's called voting with your dollar.
Me, I wouldn't touch a DRM PDF by a 11' pole.
daltoncalford
SOC-12
I fought with this aspect of the DRM issue for a while. I was curious why Marc went with DriveThru vs rpgnow. I finally decided that I wanted the files and if I have to deal with the POS that is DRM, I will do so, in the hopes that eventually Acrobat 6 will be released on Linux.
But, be assured, the people at Adobe know my opinion.....I have a tendancy to be very vocal with vendors, especially since I am the purchasing agent for a long distance phone company.
best regards
Dalton
I'm torn myself. I want them in PDF. I want to support the electronic aspects (I buy lots of online PDFs). I just *really* *really* don't want to support THIS particular electronic nightmare. Where else can I buy a book and then have the company that makes the reader go belly up so I can't read it and where every time I want to view it, I need to activate it? Yeehaw, no thank you very much.
I have bought a pile of PDFs, but I have avoided this whole "tied to a particular DRM and platform" nightmare. I hope to god when they put out the PDF version of MT that they do NOT NOT NOT tie it to this awful DRM.
So, I have to say I'm terribly conflicted.
I just wish they'd see fit to ABANDON this platform-limited DRM format. Without having open standards, you have no forward portability for your product. 20 years from now, how will I open these files? If I had the book, that would be easy. If it was an open-source project, someone would still be keeping it alive. But as it is... argh... no thank you.
Tomb
Random Goblin
SOC-12
I hope this is done in time for me to take along when I get deployed to Afghanistan (~May).
daltoncalford
SOC-12
I wonder,
If Mark gave the go ahead based upon 200 or so copies, based around an expected sale price of around $40 US, how many people would pay more, if the extra was to cover the cost of the DGP stuff? (run on sentances, gotta lov'em)
Sanger would keep the copywrite, only he would receive some income from it, and because of the extra material, Mark would get some extra sales.
All Sanger would have to do is agree to the idea while we all pooled our various copies to get them scanned into a proper format. (I have my doubts as to whether the origional DGP material is still in a viable format).
Sanger would keep the copywrite, we would be able to get a legal pdf copy of all the materials and Marc would get the lions share of the profit.
Has this ever been put to the parties that matter (Mark and Roger)?
I know that I would pay alot more if I had the entire Megatraveller Cannon on CD/DVD. (that would include the Challenge magazine stuff)
Does anyone else agree that they would pay a premium for the entire MT cannon including the DGP stuff as long as DRM is not involved.
best regards
Dalton
If Mark gave the go ahead based upon 200 or so copies, based around an expected sale price of around $40 US, how many people would pay more, if the extra was to cover the cost of the DGP stuff? (run on sentances, gotta lov'em)
Sanger would keep the copywrite, only he would receive some income from it, and because of the extra material, Mark would get some extra sales.
All Sanger would have to do is agree to the idea while we all pooled our various copies to get them scanned into a proper format. (I have my doubts as to whether the origional DGP material is still in a viable format).
Sanger would keep the copywrite, we would be able to get a legal pdf copy of all the materials and Marc would get the lions share of the profit.
Has this ever been put to the parties that matter (Mark and Roger)?
I know that I would pay alot more if I had the entire Megatraveller Cannon on CD/DVD. (that would include the Challenge magazine stuff)
Does anyone else agree that they would pay a premium for the entire MT cannon including the DGP stuff as long as DRM is not involved.
best regards
Dalton
There is a loophole in copyright...
a complete archive of the original mags, all adds and typos included, circumvents the ownership issue. But you have to pay any per copy royalties you may have had, if any...
At least, that's what the files on the Dragon Archive said.
a complete archive of the original mags, all adds and typos included, circumvents the ownership issue. But you have to pay any per copy royalties you may have had, if any...
At least, that's what the files on the Dragon Archive said.
daltoncalford
SOC-12
I do not fully understand your drift in this matter.
Are you saying, we could produce a digital copy of the material, much like the pdf's produced by drivethrurpg, and as long as we pay the appropriate royalties to Roger, we can sell them?
How do you know the value of the royalties? How do you ensure that you are not stepping on the toes of writers who never where paid for thier materials.
I would pay for the books, if they were available, and therefore, I have no problem paying for the pdf's of them. I just do not want to pay retail (the average retail price in CAD$ was $30 per book, that would be a little much if all I am getting is a downloaded scan)
My issue is that the copywrite holder would have to be happy with the deal.
How long before the copywrite runs out and the material becomes public domain?
best regards
Dalton
