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Amusing but not surprising

JBRocky

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Was messing around over on the Traveller Map looking to see how far it is from point A to point B. Well I did many different ones from prominent worlds to different places, and discovered not to my surprise that Regina is closer to Zhadnt that Capital.

So anyone else have things that while interesting are not surprising?
 
That according to the Traveller Map and the Solomani Rim supplement, Terra is a minimum of 2 parsecs away from its nearest star.

Therefore, for Terra to reach the next star would take Jump-2 as a starter.
 
That according to the Traveller Map and the Solomani Rim supplement, Terra is a minimum of 2 parsecs away from its nearest star.

Therefore, for Terra to reach the next star would take Jump-2 as a starter.

If Alpha Centauri has an oort cloud...
Earth's is largely out to about 20 KAU (0.3 LY). Let's presume A-C's is the same.
That brings the 4.26 down to 3.66...

Canon (in AM Solomani) says they found a rogue asteroid another hunk out from the oort, ...it would need to be another 0.4LY or more out. And established it as a calibration point. So, no J2 needed.

It was staged: jump 1 to the oort, with a scope. Search for something further out from there. Then jump to that, and repeat.

http://www.solstation.com/stars/oort.htm lists 44000 AU as the furthest oort/kbo objects. That's about 0.7 LY.

If both systems have oort objects reacing out past 0.6 LY towards each other, Earth-to-α_Centauri is 3J1...
1. Earth to Earth-Oort Object (EOO)
2. EOO to ACOO
3. ACOO to AC system
 
Except the first jump was to Barnard's Star, not Alpha Centauri:
The range of the jump-1 drives first developed by UNSCA was
insufficient to reach the nearest star- Alpha Centauri. It took
several years before a US Space Force team based on Luna tried
a mission which, in several trips, established an intermediate
stopover and refuelling point about one parsec out. For various
scientific reasons, the mission was to Barnard's Star instead
of Alpha Centauri.
The conspiracy theorists maintain the USA had some secret evidence of aliens off in that direction...
 
Except the first jump was to Barnard's Star, not Alpha Centauri:
The conspiracy theorists maintain the USA had some secret evidence of aliens off in that direction...

I stand corrected... but note, the same protocols apply, and canon is that the first jumps out were multiple J1's, essentially empty hex jumps, rather than J2.
 
Was messing around over on the Traveller Map looking to see how far it is from point A to point B. Well I did many different ones from prominent worlds to different places, and discovered not to my surprise that Regina is closer to Zhadnt that Capital.
Imperial expansion into the Spinward Marches is the main reason for the frontier wars with the Zhodani.

So anyone else have things that while interesting are not surprising?

I always found this fascinating:
The belt at Sirius is actually made up of artificial satellites, mostly planetoids
moved from other nearby systems. Sirius has no significant natural satellites, but i t s
position makes it important as a waystation for commercial traffic.
 
Imperial expansion into the Spinward Marches is the main reason for the frontier wars with the Zhodani.

The first three, yes. Four and Five still have that basic motivation, but are also increasingly shaped by the impending crisis of the Empress Wave. See the Mongoose Zhodani book.
 
The Empress Wave was an invention of TNE, MgT retconned it back to the CT era.

You would think that during one of their many core expeditions the Zhodani would have noticed it...

It's worth noting that in Marc's novel the Zhodani are aware of future catastrophes, one of which certainly sounds like the Empress Wave.
 
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The Empress Wave was an invention of TNE, MgT retconned it back to the CT era.

You would think that during one of their many core expeditions the Zhodani would have noticed it...

It's worth noting that in Marc's novel the Zhodani are aware of future catastrophes, one of which certainly sounds like the Empress Wave.

The Zhodani had, as of the retcon, noticed it and knew what it was capable of. The crisis that would become the Empress Wave first appears in the MT era TAS News items about unrest among the Zhodani. DGP was setting up for something else entirely, but the unrest was the only hook that really had to have an explanation after DGP and Traveller parted ways.
 
The Empress Wave was an invention of TNE, MgT retconned it back to the CT era.

You would think that during one of their many core expeditions the Zhodani would have noticed it...

It's worth noting that in Marc's novel the Zhodani are aware of future catastrophes, one of which certainly sounds like the Empress Wave.

Based upon the Retcons from the MgT book, I created a timeline.

http://wiki.travellerrpg.com/Fifth_Core_Expedition/secret -> The 5th expedition would have encountered the wave, but the Zhodani didn't know what they encountered or explored it enough to understand it.

http://wiki.travellerrpg.com/Sixth_Core_Expedition/secret -> The 6th expedition encountered the wave in an area devoid of life, so the before and after effects were not noticeable. We suspect the aftereffects closer to the core were more noticeable, but now centuries old.

http://wiki.travellerrpg.com/Seventh_Core_Expedition/secret -> The seventh core expedition was when the Zhodani really figured out what the wave was, and documented it effects.
 
The Zhodani had, as of the retcon, noticed it and knew what it was capable of. The crisis that would become the Empress Wave first appears in the MT era TAS News items about unrest among the Zhodani. DGP was setting up for something else entirely, but the unrest was the only hook that really had to have an explanation after DGP and Traveller parted ways.
That was the hook into the baddies from the core scenario that would have coincided with the Zhodani/Droyne Alien book.
 
That was the hook into the baddies from the core scenario that would have coincided with the Zhodani/Droyne Alien book.

Well, *a* hook. Quite a few of the new elements DGP had introduced were parts of the grand scheme. While this was illuminating to read, the final effect was to extend what had already been a lengthy spectator event (The Rebellion) by plowing through the parts of the Imperium that hadn't been thrashed already.
 
Got bored at work again and messed around with the Traveller Map again. Discovered the following Mora is the most distant Domain Capital but not surprising when you have to go behind the claw but I was slightly surprised when Tobia was not the most distant Subsector Capital that honor goes to Iderati which is the same number of jumps but is four parcec's farther
 
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