ACS: MF-KA10 (Hop-1) (Px 15-30-0-30/200) Fast Liner

[robject]

Fast Liner MF-KA10 Qeeqeg MCr233.5

Owner: ROR (post-1902)

Actual volume: 968 tons
Crew comfort: +0
Passenger demand: +1

   Tons     Component                                MCr    Notes
-------     -----------------------------------    -----    --------------------
   1000     Airframe Hull, lifters                    72    A, lifters
     10     Landing legs with pads                    10    
     10     Flotation hull                            10    
      0     AV=34. 1 Kinetic Charged                   0    
    200     Jump Fuel (2  parsecs)                     0    2 parsec jump, at 100t per parsec
     10     Plant Fuel (one month)                     0    one month
      9     Maneuver Drive-1 (E)                      18    1 G
     30     Hop Drive-1 (E)                           30    H 1
      2     Fuel Scoops with Purifier                1.1    100 t/hr
      2     Fuel Intakes with Purifier               1.1    40 t/hr
      2     Fuel Bins with Purifier                  1.1    20 t/hr
     16     PowerPlant-1 (E)                          16    R1
      4     Computer Model/4 std                      18    
      2     Life Support Long Term                     2    40 person-months
      1     Life Support Luxury                        1    10 high passengers
      1     Life Support Adaptable                     1    10 sophonts
      2     Clinic                                     1    
      2     Counsellor                               0.2    
     16     Spacious Bridge                          0.7    1cc 4op 3ws
      6     Officer Suite                            0.4    fresher + safe
      1     Crew Common Fresher                        1    10 crew
      1     2x Crew Shared Fresher                     1    #2 4 crew
     12     6x Crew Stateroom                        0.6    #6 1 crew
     10     2x Crew Commons                            0    #2 
      9     Large Cargo Lock                         1.8    
    200     Cargo Hold Basic                           0    
     15     30x Low Berth                              3    #30 1 passenger
      3     3x Common Fresher                          3    #3 10 passengers
    150     15x Passenger Commons                      0    #15 
     72     36x Standard Stateroom                   3.6    #36 1 passenger
     90     15x Luxury Stateroom                       6    #15 1 passenger + fresher
     20     2x Hangar Lock                             0    #2 
     60     2x Fast Boat                              30    #2 m1bis 3

Machine Readable (".ACS") format:

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ACS1.0: Mon Feb 22 10:32:35 GMT-0600 2016

Mission: Fast Liner
QSP: MF-KA10
TL: 17
Name: Qeeqeg
Actual Tons: 968

MCr: 233.5
Owner: ROR
Crew comfort: +0
Passenger demand: +1

Comments:

Components:
- Hull 1000 1 72 D D 00000 0 Airframe Hull, lifters
- Hull 10 1 10 K K 00000 1 Landing legs with pads
- Hull 10 1 10 K K 00000 1 Flotation hull
- Armor 0 1 0 K K 00000 1 AV=34. 1 Kinetic Charged
- Drives 200 1 0 D D 00000 0 Jump Fuel (2 parsecs)
- Drives 10 1 0 D D 00000 0 Plant Fuel (one month)
- Drives 9 1 18 K K 00000 1 Maneuver Drive-1 (E)
- Drives 30 1 30 K K 00000 1 Hop Drive-1 (E)
- Drives 2 1 1.1 9 9 00000 2 Fuel Scoops with Purifier
- Drives 2 1 1.1 9 9 00000 2 Fuel Intakes with Purifier
- Drives 2 1 1.1 9 9 00000 2 Fuel Bins with Purifier
- Drives 16 1 16 K K 00000 1 PowerPlant-1 (E)
- Operations 4 1 18 K P 00000 1 Computer Model/4 std
- Operations 2 1 2 K K 00000 0 Life Support Long Term
- Operations 1 1 1 K K 00000 0 Life Support Luxury
- Operations 1 1 1 K K 00000 0 Life Support Adaptable
- Operations 2 1 1 K K 00000 1 Clinic
- Operations 2 1 0.2 K K 00000 1 Counsellor
- Operations 16 1 0.7 K M 00000 0 Spacious Bridge
- Vehicles 20 2 0 K K 00000 1 Hangar Lock
- Vehicles 60 2 30 E E 00000 0 Fast Boat
- Crew 6 1 0.4 K K 00000 1 Officer Suite
- Crew 1 1 1 K K 00000 0 Crew Common Fresher
- Crew 1 2 1 K K 00000 0 Crew Shared Fresher
- Crew 12 6 0.6 K K 00000 0 Crew Stateroom
- Crew 10 2 0 K K 00000 0 Crew Commons
- Payload 9 1 1.8 K K 00000 1 Large Cargo Lock
- Payload 200 1 0 D D 00000 0 Cargo Hold Basic
- Payload 15 30 3 K K 00000 0 Low Berth
- Passengers 3 3 3 K K 00000 0 Common Fresher
- Passengers 150 15 0 K K 00000 0 Passenger Commons
- Passengers 72 36 3.6 K K 00000 0 Standard Stateroom
- Passengers 90 15 6 K K 00000 0 Luxury Stateroom

 

[Selandia]

36 standard passenger cabins, 15 luxury cabin= 51 passengers

Life support 40 psgs for 1 month (10 psg x 120 days= 1200/30 =40) ok
You have extra life support as luxury, but isn't luxury life support required for high passage (p.305) and additionnal to basic life support? So are you not short?

Fresher for 30 (3x 10) rather than 36 ?

Why would a Liner need all types of fuel collectors and a fuel purifier for each?

The advantage of a liner is that you know your ports of call. He would need only raw liquid intake from starport and one purifier. If Scoop fitted to allow GG skimming in case of missjump, routing it to FP would give it purified fuel.

If building a "generic" liner, capable to be sold for any route, you then put some of the fuelling option as "Buyers' option" and reduce the cost of the purchased model.

 

[robject]

36 standard passenger cabins, 15 luxury cabin= 51 passengers

Life support 40 psgs for 1 month (10 psg x 120 days= 1200/30 =40) ok
You have extra life support as luxury, but isn't luxury life support required for high passage (p.305) and additionnal to basic life support? So are you not short?

It'll do for a two-week flight, but yes, if I wanted to be safe I'd need to add another ton. As for Luxury LS, I think I do need another ton of that regardless, since I think one ton serves for ten people.

Since I have some space left over, I should also pile up on some Adaptive LS.

Fresher for 30 (3x 10) rather than 36 ?

Thanks for catching that. Plenty of spare room, though - I didn't fill it up - so another ton for toilets.

Why would a Liner need all types of fuel collectors and a fuel purifier for each?

As a matter of fact, it doesn't need any of that, since it would service regular routes. Thank you again ... let's swap those out for water closets and airlocks etc.

By the way, IIRC a purifier is dedicated to a fuel collector. But I wonder if that's in the text!! (Another good catch).

 

[Selandia]

As to the purifier, I did not see it in text, but why would ice require a different purifier than water once it is melted?

As to the fact that you have LS for 40 and pasenger cap of 51, I must point that marketing considerations often require more bed than actual passengers shipped:

3 luxury stateroom = 18 tons
9 luxury suite with possible double occupancy "honeymoon" (6+2 tons)= 72
10 double occupancy "honeymoon" standard suites= 40 tons
16 single occupancy Staterooms =32 tons

Thecnically 57 beds, so only 3 weeks LS and short of showers

However: typical configurations:

a) Business travellers: no travelling couple, every stateroom in single occupancy: 38 passengers, common fresher for the passengers in the 26 standard stateroom
b) "Honeymoon cruise", 19 cabin in double occupancy 38 passengers, common freshers for the 20 passengers in standard suite

So LS for 40 and freshers for 30 could work. But you have space and money, (I presume) to maximise your cabin offer.

If moving families, figure packing children in double occupancy (bunk) cabins. If moving wealthy, servant or staff to be of service during voyage will have middle passsage in less expensives accomodation while lesser staff, to be of use at destination, will be shipped low.

Liner beat Tramps becdause they are optimized for their market (route). A generic "standard" liner would work with a conceptually (if not physically) double hull, one section replicated ad infiniti in the building "slipways" and another configurated to buyers' requirements, with fairly flexible holds and passengers compartments.

Typically the core passenger and luxury section (extensive and expensive fitting that gains from mass production using parts and modules made off site) is the same, a basic hold (realy a hold, at the bottom), and a space (a twendeck) to be either additionnal cargo holds, extended lounge for comfort or less expensives accomodation.

If wanting to work a Liner of the "golden age of shipping", we could work the passengers bonuses on a "by class" basis. So you can pack steerage without busting your first class demand rating.

Beside, if Low is frozen, why should it be affected by the comfort level of High? (see mod p 498, 5.09) Low on that table has to be understood as steerage? If then what about the "true" (frozen) low?

have fun

Selandia

 

[kilemall]

No one ever puts laundry on these things.

 

[flykiller]

A generic "standard" liner would work with a conceptually (if not physically) double hull, one section replicated ad infiniti in the building "slipways" and another configurated to buyers' requirements

designed my erin-class (see link below) that way. it works better if you include a standard crew section the standard hull - for example in the erin the upper deck is for ship's crew and is identical in all versions and tech levels, while the lower deck may be configured at will.

No one ever puts laundry on these things.

I do.

 

[Selandia]

Forgot

If you ship only 40, redo the math for demand modifier (use real 40 instead of possible bunk 51 or 57). Offering suite to "frequent spacer" when no couple ship out do increase demand.

Instead of improving comfort by pilling-up communal lounge, you may do it by extending the flexibility of cabins arrangement. It will also be usefull if you consider that some route have asymetrical demand. Of course, tourists or business peoples take two way tickets, but migrant that shipped low are another business.

Triangular or quadrangular trade are a fun chalenge but then you get to the merchant prince campaign.

The economic of the BBB remains explicitly Free Trader oriented and is very crude for a subsidised liner operated by PC.

Have fun

Selandia

 

[robject]

No one ever puts laundry on these things.

Self-cleaning clothes? :rofl:

 

[flykiller]

Self-cleaning clothes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ73TLa_aL4