What do ships SOUND like?

[jdegraff]

I'd like to hear what everyone thinks ships would sound like, since I'm planning to do some animation with them both in and out of atmosphere. I have my own thoughts, but I'd like to hear what others think. And of course I know there wouldn't be any sound out of the atmosphere

Balancing "science", the game system, and cinemagraphic impact can be a lot of fun (heavy sarcasm there....).

Jesse

 

[sid6.7]

well i imagine in atmosphere they sound like
jets...in space only a dull hum....

 

[Plankowner]

Maybe a whine or something added for the Gravitic Effect?

Basically I agree with sid6.7

There IS sound in space, so don't fall for that misconception.

 

[jdegraff]

There IS sound in space, so don't fall for that misconception.

I hadn't heard that before...a Googlin' I shall go.

 

[Valarian]

I like this or this

 

[sgbrown]

Assuming you're using the CT m-drive or some other suitably magic reactionless drive, I'm thinking there should be a low hum of machinery - but no jet sounds in or out of atmosphere. At slow speeds, a reactionless drive ship shouldn't make anymore noise than a blimp - and whatever noise running noise you ascribe to the engines.

At higher speeds within the atmosphere, I think you would have sounds that vary with the hull shape -also the higher the speed the louder the sound. Sorta like the TOS Star Trek "whoosh" sound - but it would only be for ships within an atmosphere. BTW the type (composition and density) of atmosphere would also affect the sound, wouldn't it?

If your using HEPLR or another version of a fusion rocket - the ship should roar as long as there is an atmosphere to support the sound.

The m-drive example wouldn't be very good for cinematic effect - unless of course you picture a ship silently rising from below the bridge with it's turret trained on the baddies (ala "Blue Thunder" I think that was the film anyway.)

 

[stofsk]

Originally posted by Plankowner:
There IS sound in space, so don't fall for that misconception.

Huh?

 

[sgbrown]

Originally posted by stofsk:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Plankowner:
There IS sound in space, so don't fall for that misconception.

Huh? </font>[/QUOTE]I think several of us have that same feeling.

Plankowner - Any chance we can get some explanation? or should we all take this as a "lookup" and go googling?

 

[sgbrown]

Ok - I took it as a lookup and found this link:

http://www.astronomycafe.net/qadir/ask/a11650.html

In short there is sound in space - but not something we can hear.

This could be something to use for added color to using the sensors.

 

[stofsk]

Originally posted by SGB aka Newbee:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by stofsk:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Plankowner:
There IS sound in space, so don't fall for that misconception.

Huh? </font>[/QUOTE]I think several of us have that same feeling.

Plankowner - Any chance we can get some explanation? or should we all take this as a "lookup" and go googling? </font>[/QUOTE]It's bad form for someone to say "x is a misconception. Full stop." without backing it up with either an argument, or citations, preferably both. We shouldn't have to look up anything, since we haven't made any claims. I shouldn't have to go "Huh?" at all.

So plankowner has been naughty and needs a spanking. Tough love and all that. Pull your pants down Plankowner...

 

[BetterThanLife]

Sonic booms upon entering the atmosphere. Generally a double crump as it passes overhead.

 

[epicenter00]

Originally posted by stofsk:
So plankowner has been naughty and needs a spanking. Tough love and all that. Pull your pants down Plankowner...

Hey now, this is an ALL AGES site, it said so in the TOS.

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On-Topic:

Considering that many people here like their magic plates and reactionless drives and such, maybe a thrumming noise ('brrrummmbrrrummbrrrummm'), the kind which people associate with UFOs in movies?

 

[rhoneycutt]

gosh.....
do you mean what a ship sounds like outside in space?
or inside the hull...

for an animation...whatever sound enhances the mood or emotions you want the audience to 'feel'

 

[GypsyComet]

Thought this topic sounded familiar...

http://www.travellerrpg.com/CotI/Discuss/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000994#000000

 

[Blue Ghost]

valarian; that second mp3 link sounds like a 1950's UFO hovering above ma and pa kettle's farm

 

[Scarecrow]

Outside - Star Wars
Inside - Star Trek

As you can see, I've never really thought about it.

Crow

 

[Andrew Boulton]

Kind of a rumbling, jet kind of noise. Or what Crow said.

This was my attempt a couple of years ago (looks a bit crap now):

http://www.traveller3d.com/jm3.avi

This could be something to use for added color to using the sensors.

Yeah, I had the same idea some time ago. Ears are pretty good at judging the location of sound sources in 3d, so by using sounds you can hear where ships are even if you can't see them.

 

[jfetters]

I am partial to some of the ambient sounds from the Pink Floyd song "Welcome to the Machine."

 

[sgbrown]

Originally posted by Andrew Boulton:
Kind of a rumbling, jet kind of noise. Or what Crow said.

This was my attempt a couple of years ago (looks a bit crap now):

http://www.traveller3d.com/jm3.avi

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> This could be something to use for added color to using the sensors.

Yeah, I had the same idea some time ago. Ears are pretty good at judging the location of sound sources in 3d, so by using sounds you can hear where ships are even if you can't see them. </font>[/QUOTE]Another possible application would be to follow the sound "wake" of a ship to determine where it went. I think the article said the speed of sound was about 300 meters per second (at interplanetary densities) Fast to us - slow when compared to speed of light and the distances covered.
Scene goes something like this:
Sensor Ops: "Captain, Sensors show a wake signature in the same orbit as us - but it's not us - it's a classic Vargr raider signature pattern - same orbit approximately 1/2 revolution ahead of us sir - they're keeping the planet between us for now."
Captain: "Thank you Mr. Shagissar. Sound battlestations; {Klaxon blairs} Mr. Shagissar - keep a close eye on that wake - let me know if there's any idication of change. Helm bring her around 180 degrees on my mark, let's shift to a retrograde orbit and prepare a little surprise of our own shall we?"

 

[Arthur Denger]

Assuming the high tech level 'reactionless' grav & maneuver drive is being used: (1) in space - silent; (2) in a suitably thick atmosphere - a nearly inaudible humming/thrumming, in addition to random creaks, pings and pops (think submarine or teakettle, hot from the the cooktop burner). At mid-tech levels, maneuver would likely make a rumbling whoosh from its rocket-style jet exhaust, or a crackling sound, if ionization is a part of the reaction. I can think of no good reason why it should sound any more like a jet aircraft turbine than it would like a dishwasher. Unless it actually uses turbines (Serenity or Harrier-style) to lift off and land.