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Use cargo hold in external subcraft? Utility of Subcraft?

As a matter of curiosity, Wil, can you tell me what would be the transport cost of shipping booze from Regina to Capital or vice versa a) in bulk and b) in bottles?


Hans

Assuming KCr1 per parsec per Td of 10000kg or 14kL (which means no faster than J3), no D/E/X ports, no A/R zoning... about 180Pc. A Td will be 10 tons in this case; the density is high enough to hit that limit, rather than 14kL, and bulk whiskey will hit 11kL; adding tank mass, we get right about 9000kg per Td.

But note that 1L whiskey at 80 proof is about 0.916kg; at 140 proof, about 0.85kg. So, it's mass that's the limit, and we can just round up for simplicity.
180 parsecs was a quick hop check, manually, using travellermap.com. It's not likely to be perfectly accurate.

So 9L in break-bulk per Cr per parsec. 11L in liquid-bulk per cr per parsec. 5L to 7.5L in bottles per Cr per Pc.

180/9= Cr20/L
180/11= Cr17/L
180/7.5 = Cr24/L (Cr18/fifth in plastic; Cr1.5/shot)
180/5 = Cr36/L (Cr27/fifth in glass; Cr2.25/shot)

This is before any warehouse/storage fees, lading fees, transfer fees, and duties. You could easily up to double the shipping cost. Possibly treble it, even.

It's reasonable that a container could be contract shipped, but it's unreasonable that it would be on a single ship the whole way, because it's more than a year's trip. On a single line, yes, absolutely reasonable.
 
It's reasonable that a container could be contract shipped, but it's unreasonable that it would be on a single ship the whole way, because it's more than a year's trip. On a single line, yes, absolutely reasonable.


Yes, a trade route of such a length can exist. It's the idea of such a route being served by ships which traverse it's entire length that strains credulity.
 
My question would be could the space allotted for a small craft, say a slip or a dedicated hanger be used for cargo in the absence of said vehicle ?

A given that the cargo could not exceed the small craft's displacement, that much seems logical. Other than hardware for securing said freight, one might think such would be allowable.
 
Why not, if they were to load the cargo in that said hangar bay and secure it so that it couldn't move at all. Also most likely they could push the envelope and slightly go over the cargo weight of the craft a bit too...
 
Why not, if they were to load the cargo in that said hangar bay and secure it so that it couldn't move at all. Also most likely they could push the envelope and slightly go over the cargo weight of the craft a bit too...

That's my thinking too, I've been working on a new design of a Classic Traveller starship that has a slip for a 20 Ton Launch that, when vacated, can be utilized for storage of standard cargo containers
 
I also feel you could store some smaller cargo types in tubes or smaller containers in hallways, giving little room to slide buy but possible. The need out weights the other concerns.
 
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My question would be could the space allotted for a small craft, say a slip or a dedicated hanger be used for cargo in the absence of said vehicle ?

A given that the cargo could not exceed the small craft's displacement, that much seems logical. Other than hardware for securing said freight, one might think such would be allowable.

Depends on the ship. The lamprey-style externally docked boats favored by 400 dT subsidized merchants and close escorts would present a problem: you'd need to build a suitably sized cargo container to replace the boat, and it would have to be streamlined, and it would have to be equipped for jump (under more current canon guidelines, jump is accomplished in part by a jump field grid threading along the surface of the hull. One assumes the boats in question are so equipped; any pod replacing them would have to be similarly equipped.)
 
also depends on the cargo.

Cargo with cargo codes such as Perishable might have problems.

I don't think that a subcraft bay would have conditions necessary for cargo without adaption. It may not be heated or pressurised etc

But it could be adapted and perhaps could even have a dual use

That idea of putting a launch sized pod full of cargo on the back of the subsidized merchant.. must make sure my players don't think of that.. think I'll stick to my idea that the launch is required as part of the services supplied to satisfy the subsidy
 
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