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Traveller-esque fiction.

"Space Vikings? There ain't no space vikings here. Just us honest traders. The settlement was burning, the settlers were dead. They didn't need that technology anyway. That's our story and we're sticking to it." -- Simon Jester.

The reason the quote above is relevant will become aparant.

I've seen a thread on Traveller-esque Movies, I saw a thread on Traveller-esque games (some of which I remember fondly). Me, I like books. Novels, Comic books, Graphic novels, screenplay adaptations.. its all good. Here's some that I found Traveller-ish.

Albedo (Erma Felna, EDF, Birthright etc.) by Steve Gallacci

A comic and two editions of an rpg set in a far future with free fall intersteller craft, wingless aerodyne flying gunships and lorries and tanks and guns that wouldn't look unfamilier at all in the pages of latest Gunfantic's Gazetteer.

The background is a little strange though. All the characters are genetically modified animals. 85 to 95 % human. and wondering how the heck they got their start and who created them and... well it's worth reading. especially since there's an irony with Humans in the role of the dead 'ancients' or 'forerunners'

There was another 'furry' comic the furry's were actually aliens that were just drawn furry to make sales in a furry military small press mag. called 'furrlough' There were two (or three?) linked story lines:
1) one called 'Morrigan's' War' about the female commander of a misogonist occupying force during a war between intersteller empires for a particular planet. standard arm was an energy weapon that could stun or kill and came in formats and battery charges not unlike those of todays firearms (pistols, rifles, heavy weapons...) the vehicle tech was mostly grav craft.

2) the second whose name escapes me now. (my copies are buried in the bottom of several book filled Rubbermaid tub/totes) Was a sort of 'Tramp in armour'(Colin Forbes) type tale of a small ratag unit of 2 AFV's and an infantry unit caught behind enemy lines after Morrigan's forces (see above) overran them. It included a beautifully drawn action sequence of an arial battle between two flying tanks and a small space ship designed for ground attack.

But... NO such post would be complete without a mention of H. Beam Piper. He commited suicide in the 60's just before the cheques from his sales started comming in, but it was His work that helped revive Ace books in the 70's Jerry Pournelle (Mercenary, Mote in God's Eye etc.) always considered himself a protege of Piper's or so he says in the foreward to some of ace's collected short stories by HBP.

Piper had a grand sweep of history for his stories Generally refered to as the Terro-Human Future history. Earth Half blows itself up in the late 60's early seventies. Replacing the UN in that time is something called the Pan-Federation of the First Federation. It becomes first a world then a solar government. Somewhere along the way it becomes just the Terran Federation. about 5 or 6 hundred years into it's life it falls into a period of anarchy. During the long night we hear of Sworld Worlders (who name their homeworlds after swords, and are very touchy about their noble dignities) and Space Vikings, (a sworld worlder profesion of going out and looting the fallen planets of the former federation), The Federation is succeeded after many hundreds of years by an Empire....

There's more after, There's LOTs inbetween. Here are the Titles:

Four Day Planet/Lone Star Planet
(Lone Star Planet is not actully THFH story it's also been published as the short story 'A planet for Texans')
Uller Uprising
Little Fuzzy
Fuzzy Sapiens
Fuzzies and Other People
(the three above are his only trilogy, the last of which didn't see print until the 1990's and then only because the manuscript was found in a trunk in someone's storage.)

The Cosmic Computer (Also Published as 'Junkyard Planet')

Space Viking

Federation! (A short story omnibus)
Empire! (A short story omnibus)
The Worlds of H. Beam Piper (Not actually a THFH omnibus but a lot of his themes are still there.)

All of them very cool. All of them very traveller-esque.... or...

maybe

Traveller is Piper-esque?
 
Garf, why am I not surprised that you're pushing my favorite author. Look around, there is book thread where Murph says all kinds of good things about HBP. Oh, you forgot the Paratime stories, including Lord Kalvin of Otherwhen. Superficially less traveller-like, until hyou think about getting shipwrecked on a TL 2 world.

I also liked Christopher Anvil, Eric Frank Russell, Murray Leinster, and Poul Anderson (especially the Nick Van Rijn stories.)

I also looted non-SF for adventute ideas. I got some good stuff from Alistair Maclean, Dashiel Hammett and Eric Ambler. Just replace the train or freighter with a spaceship.
 
Eric Frank Russel Rocks. Three to Conquer is great.

Non SF wise I am or was (depends on when I was reading or what they were writing ) of Alastair Maclean,Colin Forbes, Desmond Bagley.

hmmm...

How about this one?

Nevil Shute.
Everyone remembers 'On the Beach'
but there was 'Most Secret' and 'The Trustee from the Toolroom' to name a couple of others.

What was always cool about Shute is that his heros are mostly 'ordinary joe's and jane's' who do extraordinary things.

I missed the other thread about books. I'll have to find it.

I've long been a Piper fan and have most of his stuff including the 'paratime' stories and including the posthumous 'collaborations' he did with Micheal Kurland (First Cycle) William Tuning (Fuzzy Bones), Roland Green and John F. Carr (The Great Kings' war), and Ardath Mayhar (A Golden Dream).

Green has done some military SF of his own. (Peace Company: Peace Company, (name escapes me), The Mountain Walks -- Starcruiser Shenandoah: about four novels -- On The Verge (a novel for some sci fi RPG... Alternity? )

But Piper's TerroHuman Federation and Empire and the OTU have many curious paralells and places with matching flavour.
 
There were two books that David Drake did relatively recently that I found to be very Travelleresque:
"With the Lightnings"
and
"Lt. Leary, Commanding"
They have a sci-fi/age of sail vibe that's very good.
 
Originally posted by DrSkull:
There were two books that David Drake did relatively recently that I found to be very Travelleresque:
"With the Lightnings"
and
"Lt. Leary, Commanding"
They have a sci-fi/age of sail vibe that's very good.
And he's stated that he's got other books in that series planned, as soon as he gets a bit of his backlog worked out. (waiting, waiting...)

Another excellent series is David Weber and John Ringo's "March" series, involving the exploits of the Heir Tertiary of the Empire of Man and his bodyguard "battalion." The books recount what happens shortly before and everything after their ship gets sabotaged and they crash-land on a jungle planet that's under enemy control. Two books are out, "March Upcountry" and "March to the Sea" with "March to the Stars" due out toward the end of the year. And Mr's Weber and Ringo assure us that they've got at least four more books planned for the series.

If you read these books and don't get scads of Traveller-esque ideas, call the coroner, your brain is dead.

Simon Jester
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PS: And, yes, the works of H. Beam Piper are most escellent, but I've worn out my copies of "Uller Uprising" and "Space Viking" and haven't been able to find new ones (or even old ones). Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
 
Yes, though I find he's abandoned his gestalt somewhat.

His early works were all about the idea that you'd better know what you are paying for once you start using armies to get your own way.

They were brutal, un glamourised storys about violance and it's consequence. 'Heros' died, 'villains' lived, and even good guys did very bad things, just read any of his Hammer's Slammers short stories or Novelas (the Hangman and the Butcher's Bill especially come to mind.)

Now having said that I DID indeed find his stuff two (so far) Lt. Leary somewhat traveller-esque and very FUN.

But the person who REALLY does naval combat and noble duty the way suspect it is in Traveller is David Weber. Check out his Honor Harrington Novels.
On Basilisk Station
Honour of the Queen
The Short Victorious War
Field of Dishonour
Flag in Exile
Honour Among Enemies
-More Than Honour (short stories by Weber, Drake, and SM Stirling)
In Enemy Hands
Echoes of Honour
-Worlds of Honour (another omnibus with milsci author guest spots)
Ashes of Victory
-Changer of Worlds (as above)
And Forthcoming: Honour's War ( I -think- that's the title.. anyway I have it on preorder)

Weber is familier with Naval Tradition, the way he handle's naval ceromonials and protocol feels right to somone who used to be a member of the Royal Canadian Sea Cadets.

I reccomend Though that you start with the first novel and let yourself get hooked on the character (although... I actually started with Honour among Enemies, and More Than Honour)

Honor Harrington's Horblower-ish rise to fame and fortune may get a little hard to swallow if you're not hooked on her while she's still a Lt. Commander. Not only does she get rank but she begins to be a subject for the 'genetics, cybernetics and freaks... oh my' topic all on her lonesome.

Although the Cybernetics are a good thing. they keep her pretty even with wounds suspiciously resembling those of Lord Nelson.

'Path of the Fury' also had some elements that with a traveller-esque feel, especially about the sweep of space and the role of a space navy. And Tisiphone getting thrown from her Bronze Age to the sci fi future was actually kinda sorta neat.
 
H Beam Piper was a favorite, He could cut to the heart quickly. I used him as a base for some of my best adventures. Have to wonder what he could have done if he was still producing? :mad:
Havn't seen Fuzzys and other people. Have to look it up.
 
Well to be honest, as I grow more liberal (or is that libertarian... or both? neither? I don't trust companies and/or the good will of my fellow man on the other hand I'm a big fan of personal freedom.)

I find Piper a touch right wing. His 'left wingers' are at Best Dupes (Paula Quinton.. Breifly- Uller Uprising) and more commonly figures of derision. (Sydney Clements - Lone Star Planet)

His heroes tend to be men of action who achieve their goals through force of arms and pay lip service to the regrets they have over they eggs they break while making omelete.

The sympathy most characters have for any aliens often strikes me as a form of 'Human Man's Burden'.

No longer the brain dead pre-teen I was when I discovered Piper I can see these themes running in his novels.

On the other hand, His hero, 'The Self - Reliant Man' definitely was a figure to be admired, competent, tough, often compassionate, and a 'Doer' not a talker. Definitely an arguement for personal freedom.

hmmm.. but I digress

While I DO reccomend piper to anyone who hasn't read them are their any other Traveller-ish stories out there? how about traveller theme music? (Jean Michele Jarre's Equinox)
 
I can't remember the name of the author, but these three books seemed quite traveler-like:

The Buchanan Campaign
The Fires of Coventry
Return to Camien
 
Originally posted by Garf:
But the person who REALLY does naval combat and noble duty the way suspect it is in Traveller is David Weber. Check out his Honor Harrington Novels.
I'd have to agree with the assessment that the Honor Harrington books would qualify as being fairly Traveller-esque and I rather enjoyed reading them myself, especially the naval combat.
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If havn't read them, are interested, and have no problems reading things on screen you can download the first two books of the series from http://www.baen.com/library/
As well as a number of other good books.

On Basilisk Station
Honor of the Queen

BTW has anyone read any of Elizabeth Moon's 'Heris Serrano' books? I'd offer them up as being fairly traveller-esque as well.

Hunting Party (1993)*
Sporting Chance (1994)*
Winning Colors (1995)*
Once a Hero (1997)
Rules of Engagement (1998)
Change of Command (1999)
Against the Odds (2000)

* - These books were combined into a single volume titled 'Heris Serrano' (2000)

The complete text of these books can be acquired online from http://www.webscription.net/ at a price of $4.00 US... as well as a fair number of other good books. A fair site less expensive than buying new and a great deal less time consuming can searching half price book stores.


Eak
 
E.C. Tubbs' Dumarest of Terra series.
This is where Marc Miller got fast/slow drug, low/mid/high passage, the Ubiquitous dagger, the air/raft and a bunch of other stuff.

I found a few more books in this long running series at the good used book store in Poughkeepsie (NY), along with some Doc Savage I didn't have & a copy of "The Great King's War"
 
A few more David Drake books:

Igniting the Reaches
Through the Breach
Fireships

The common theme is Mankind fighting his way back to the stars after some great catastrophy. Very Long Nightish/Space Viking. He says 'Fireships' was based on Sir Francis Drake. Hmmm, pirate ... Traveller... Yeah, I'd call that a match.

Starliner is another good'n. Sort of like the I.S.C.V. King Richard (FASA)

:cool: :D
 
A. Bertram Chandler's "John Grimes" books:

-The Road to the Rim
-To Prime the Pump
-The Hard Way Up
-Spartan Planet
-The Inheritors
-The Broken Cycle
-The Big Black Mark
-The Far Traveller
-Star Courier

These date from the 60s and 70s, and are recently collected into two volumes by the SFBC...

Then there are the adventures of Hobart Floyt and Alacrity Fitzhugh, by Brian Daley:

-Requiem for a Ruler of Worlds
-Jinx on a Terran Inheritance
-Fall of the White Ship Avatar

A shame that these only went to three books.

Since someone mentioned comic books, your Traveller-related reads are not complete unless you've taken in all of Phil Foglio's "Buck Godot: Zap Gun for Hire" stuff.

If you can tolerate all the Marvel cross-overs, hunt down the old Micronauts comic (recently relaunched, I note, by Image).

Finally, the serial by Frezzato in the pages of Heavy Metal (and republished in hardcover by them), called Keepers of the Maser, currently up to four or five parts...
 
Originally posted by Garf:
Weber is familier with Naval Tradition,
I presume you don't mean that in a Churchillian sense...

"Don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash."

In fact, Churchill didn't actually say it, even though it is usually attributed to him. <sigh>

Alan Bradley
 
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