Traveller Daleks?

[gloriousbattle]

Just an inane little thought I had while watching some Doctor Who. SOmebody must have done Daleks, Cybermen, Sontarans, etc., as Traveller races.

Or not?

 

[Icosahedron]

I think it would be difficult to devise a UPP for them:
How do you evaluate a Dalek's Strength?
Dex is low for movement and manipulation, but high for shooting.
Endurance is effectively unlimited, thanks to their 'battledress'.

 

[gloriousbattle]

I think it would be difficult to devise a UPP for them:
How do you evaluate a Dalek's Strength?
Dex is low for movement and manipulation, but high for shooting.
Endurance is effectively unlimited, thanks to their 'battledress'.

I think it would be one of those things where they got a standard UPP, but modifiers for specific actions. For example, maybe Dex 6, but +2 to hit with the Dalek gun, +3 for fine manipulations (for some reason, though it doesn't seem like a plunger would be all that good for that), -1,000 to climb stairs (at least until the new models get upgraded with anti-gravs) etc.

 

[mike wightman]

See T4's Emperor's Arsenal - TL14+ battlepods

Don't forget the latest version of the Daleks have ag - first seen demonstrated in a Sylvester McCoy Doctor episode IIRC

 

[BlackBat242]

Don't forget the latest version of the Daleks have ag - first seen demonstrated in a Sylvester McCoy Doctor episode IIRC

Which gb mentioned in his post... 5 1/2 hours before yours.


As for the "plunger"... I'd say the inside of the cup is lined with a number of small retractable manipulative "fingers"... some with "claw" grabbers, some with pointed "picks", etc. They lie flat along the inner surface until needed.

This way a Dalek can operate controls, pick up things, etc.

 

[sabredog]

I think it would be difficult to devise a UPP for them:
How do you evaluate a Dalek's Strength?
Dex is low for movement and manipulation, but high for shooting.
Endurance is effectively unlimited, thanks to their 'battledress'.

I'd say they had high INT, EDU, and 1 in everything else for the Dalek proper (the squishy being inside the pepperpot).

And design the machine as a you would a robot out of Book 8. The real damage and physical attribute capabilities come from the machine, not the alien inside it.

 

[Icosahedron]

Yep. LBB8 might be the way to go. I might even have a play...

111(1D6+9)(1D6+9)(2D6) might work for UPP.

I would have been happier to see Daleks on TV with a sack-truck type triple wheel arrangement or caterpillar tracks rather than AG for stair climbing, but I suppose given their TL...

 

[Patron Zero]

Would not then Cybermen also be treated under Robots than otherwise in CT ?

*shudders at the thought of a TARDIS ambling about IMTU*

 

[Icosahedron]

*shudders at the thought of a TARDIS ambling about IMTU*

Hey, I devised a Traveller Tardis - well, not full specs, but I figured how it might work. Needless to say it took some houserules...


Here we go:

LBB-8 Dalek TL15+ Piloted Warbot.

URP: 9233F-11-0000-30 15 1D6+9 1D6+9 100/250

Specifications:
Chassis: 500L, 50kg, 3300Cr, conical.
Power Plant: 30kwh, 40L, 55kg, 1000Cr, Fuel Cell, 0.2L/hr.
Battery: 35kwh, 5L, 5kg, 50000Cr, 1.2 hours backup.
Locomotion: 8kwh, 24L, 16kg, 240000Cr, 800kg thrust, 8xlight.
Appendage: 2kwh, 0L, 5kg, 500Cr, 1xLight Arm.
Head: 5kwh, 25L, 2.5kg, 150Cr, Head+eye stalk.
Visual Sensor: 3.5kwh, 0L, 4.5kg, 700Cr, visual, telescopic, LI, PIR.
Audio Sensor: 1kwh, 0L, 0.5kg, 50Cr, non-enhanced (can't hear good guys whispering)
Voder: 2kwh, 0L, 3kg, 1200Cr, (should be half price for tinny sound)
Mag Sensor: 1kwh, 0L, 0.5kg, 1000Cr.
Rad Sensor: 1kwh, 0L, 0.5kg, 1200Cr.
Pwr Interface: 1kwh, 0L, 0.5kg, 100Cr.
Radio: 0.5kwh, 0L, 0.1kg, 75Cr, 5km.
Laser Carbine: 5kwh, 0L, 8kg, 3000Cr, external.
Elec Circ Prot: mass and cost *1.5.
Combat Armour upgrade: chassis mass and cost *10
Fuel Tank: 10L, 48hrs endurance.

Ratings:
Power Input: 30kwh
Power Output: 30kwh
Volume Gross: 525L
Volume Net: 79L
Passenger Space: 446L (90% empty)
Mass Empty: 678kg (similar to a Honda Goldwing IIRC)
Cost: 483112Cr (around half a mil)
Man-G: 0.18
Speed (from Striker): 180 top, 135 cruise, 45 NOE.
Defence: Combat Armour
Offence: Laser Carbine.

Quite a nice little tub.

 

[jawillroy]

Hey, I devised a Traveller DALEK - well, not full specs, but I figured how it might work. Needless to say it took some houserules...

/fixed.

 

[Hemdian]

LBB-8 Dalek TL15+ Piloted Warbot.
<snip>

And if you want somewhere in the Spinward Marches to put them there is always Asmodeous/Querion. I'm thinking that for a Scout-based campaign (circa 1105) a covert exploration behind enemy lines could make for an interesting, if hazardous, adventure. :devil:

 

[Antony]

If using FF&S I'd arm it with an x-ray laser, later versions also had some sort of force screen, which could be either electrostatic or if you're prepared to fudge the technology a type of white globe generator.

 

[Icosahedron]

/fixed.

Thanks, but it wasn't broke. The Tardis and the Dalek were two seperate topics.

If using FF&S I'd arm it with an x-ray laser, later versions also had some sort of force screen, which could be either electrostatic or if you're prepared to fudge the technology a type of white globe generator.

Yeah, but remember these things are evil - the good guys need to be able to beat them...

 

[gloriousbattle]

What about Jamaican Cybermen for Traveller?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s41r9ZUE3uw

 

[Antony]

Yeah, but remember these things are evil - the good guys need to be able to beat them...

I don't believe Daleks are technically evil, they would be amoral though which is not quite the same thing. As for beating them the frontal approach is likely to be a quick step to suicide. To beat a Dalek you need to be smart not have bigger guns

 

[Hemdian]

I don't believe Daleks are technically evil

Maybe it depends how you define evil.

If you consider the creature from the film Alien, it is hostile to other lifeforms. But that hostility is part of its life cycle. There is nothing personal or malicious about it. Therefore I would agree that it isn’t evil. But Daleks want to kill and destroy beyond their own immediate needs. Their mantra, apart from “exterminate”, is “Daleks conquer and destroy”. (Note that’s “and” not “or”.) They are dedicated to the idea of ethnic cleansing across all time and space. Even when they have non-Dalek allies they have to resist the urge to kill them ... at least until they have served their purpose. Daleks kill for the sake of killing but their ‘psychotic’ tendencies do not confirm to the definition of a personality disorder or mental illness.

They were invented by Terry Nation who based them on stereotypical Nazis (and the Georgian National Ballet). As a literary construct they are supposed to be evil villains in the context of a children’s TV show.

 

[Gray Lensman]

(and the Georgian National Ballet)

Stop it! :rofl: :rofl:

 

[Hemdian]

Stop it! :rofl: :rofl:

It's true (apparently)! The story is that Terry Nation had been to see them and was fascinated by the way the dancers glided across the stage with their legs hidden beneath long dresses. That was a key part of the description he gave the original prop maker.

 

[Gray Lensman]

It's true (apparently)! The story is that Terry Nation had been to see them and was fascinated by the way the dancers glided across the stage with their legs hidden beneath long dresses. That was a key part of the description he gave the original prop maker.

Oh geez, this is killing me :rofl:. My Sig Other just had to slap me on the back :rofl:. You have a link for that?

 

[Icosahedron]

I don't believe Daleks are technically evil, they would be amoral though which is not quite the same thing.

Maybe it depends how you define evil.

How about: "Any sufficiently low morality is indistinguishable from evil."

As Hemdian says, 'exterminate all non-Daleks because we can' is about as low as morality gets.

It's true (apparently)! The story is that Terry Nation had been to see them and was fascinated by the way the dancers glided across the stage with their legs hidden beneath long dresses. That was a key part of the description he gave the original prop maker.

No link, but I read this in a dead-tree interview with Terry Nation long before the internet was invented (so no questionable wiki apocrypha there).