The Real Sol Con Reform posting page....

[LKW]

Originally posted by George Boyett:
[/qb]

No. Getting a little "Yanks in Space", the Consort is like the First Lady of the USA;[/QB][/QUOTE]

Nothing "Yanks in Space" about it: what official powers does Queen Elizabeth's husband Prince Phillip have? Where does a general's wife sit in the chain of command? Spouses have no official ranking (I grant you that it can be fatal to ignore their unofficial power in certain times and places -- Messalina, for example).

The Warrant gives Iphegenia certain powers which she would not otherwise have.

You may now return to your speculations . . .

 

[RandyT0001]

Speculation
The Vegans and Solomani are in conflict within Imperial borders. Solomani freedom fighters are trying to overthrow their Vegan lords on various worlds. Iphegenia's warrant will probably be used to assist the Vegans in this conflict by outlawing Solomani Party activities within Imperial space. Those Solomani will appeal to the Confederation for help. The more moderate voices within the Confederation government will lose power as the hardliners use this oppresion of imperial held Solomani as a rallying cause. The Sol Con will intervene militarily. Iphegenia will then use the warrant to bring Imperial naval forces to bear and we have a full fledged interstellar war to witness.
Wish
What would be really interesting and fun is if there was a game similar to Fifth Frontier War which Loren could use, having volunteers from CotI as the Imperial and Sol Con naval commanders, with which to play out the outcome of the upcoming conflict. I volunteer to be on the Solomani side.

 

[RainOfSteel]

Originally posted by Randy Tyler:

Wish
What would be really interesting and fun is if there was a game similar to Fifth Frontier War which Loren could use, having volunteers from CotI as the Imperial and Sol Con naval commanders, with which to play out the outcome of the upcoming conflict. I volunteer to be on the Solomani side.

Oooo! I'll take Yaskodray's side!

 

[Whipsnade]

Originally posted by Randy Tyler:
Iphegenia's warrant...

Mr. Tyler,

I know you and the other posters meant to write Iolanthe when referring to the Empress but wrote Iphegenia by mistake. I just want to get this corrected as quickly as possible.

Petty? Yes, it is. However, I know some knucklehead will read this thread and come to the conclusion; despite all evidence, that both Iolanthe AND Iffie are on the Rim with different briefs and dueling warrants. Stepping in now with a quick correction will forestall the multi-post correction required when said knucklehead posts his guesses about what will happen on the Rim that include an Imperial Twosome.


Sincerely,
Larsen

 

[RainOfSteel]

Mr. Whipsnade is probably correct.

Good thing I only wrote "Empress".

 

[jappel]

Regarding the "It's happened before" line dangled so enticingly by Mr. Wiseman - wasn't there a full-blown Illeish Revolt in the past that involved the IN nuking a substantial portion of one world into a wasteland?

Back to the Confederation - my money is on something along the line of what Larsen and others suggested, i.e. the SolCon "going Yugoslavia" and splitting up, with lots of interesting politicking and alliance-making going on. I'd forgotten about the Vegan issue, though.

Looking forward to whatever happens next...

John

 

[Jeffr0]

I'll believe that when I see it.

I figure that the GT line is supposed to have some real surprises in it. "Rebellion 2.0" just isn't very... surprising. Logical, yes... but it's just been done before.

Unless Loren's written a new wargame (like FFW) I don't expect to see this-- but nobody's going to develop a new Traveller wargame for _this_ market....

OTOH, Interstellar Wars is slated to be released before long. The Solomani are the good guys in that one. Making the Solomani into good guys again is "surprising" (given the totality of Traveller development) AND it fits in with the products that are on the way.

 

[Anthony]

Originally posted by daryen:
There is noticable conflict going on between humand and Vegan forces. Assuming this is what LKW is referring to, then one could deduce that the conflicts that have been reported are merely the tip of the proverbial iceberg, and a full blown human/Vegan war has already started.

The human-vegan events appearing in TNS are derived from an email politics game relating to the ducal succession in Alderamin subsector. It's not a war, except on the situation on Esperance, which seems to have a ceasefire at the moment.

 

[jappel]

Although someone just shot up a Vegan megafreighter last week...

John

 

[Whipsnade]

Originally posted by jappel:
[QB] Regarding the "It's happened before" line dangled so enticingly by Mr. Wiseman - wasn't there a full-blown Illeish Revolt in the past that involved the IN nuking a substantial portion of one world into a wasteland?

Mr. Appel,

Yes. It was sometime in the mid to late 400s IIRC. Ilelish led the revolt. At the end, the Imperium reportedly evacuated the population of that planet and then "scrubbed the equatorial regions free of life". The sector capital was also moved from Ilelish to Dlan.

The revolt is intriguing because so little is known about it. All canon has are the dates the revolt ran, a brief description of the proximate cause; the usual 'not getting enough attention/money from the central government whine', and the end result for Ilelish.

A really interesting facet of the revolt is the seeming lack of any extensive fighting, although as Mr. Rancke-Madsen correctly reminds us 'a absence of evidence is not evidence of absence'. However, the length of the episode and the 'possible' lack of extensive fighting may indicate that the Imperium employed 'soft power' more often than battlefleets against the revolt. When you remember the initial Imperial responses to the problems presented by the Solomani Autonomous Region, the idea of 'soft power' becomes a wee bit more credible.

Whatever happens, here's hoping the we recieve regular TNS news briefs for all of the interesting times on the Rim.


Sincerely,
Larsen

 

[rancke]

Originally posted by Anthony:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by daryen:
There is noticable conflict going on between humand and Vegan forces. Assuming this is what LKW is referring to, then one could deduce that the conflicts that have been reported are merely the tip of the proverbial iceberg, and a full blown human/Vegan war has already started.

The human-vegan events appearing in TNS are derived from an email politics game relating to the ducal succession in Alderamin subsector. It's not a war, except on the situation on Esperance, which seems to have a ceasefire at the moment. </font>[/QUOTE]Indeed, and Alderamin is going to get a really competent duke soon . He'll deal with it, I'm sure. (At least, I think I'm sure ).


Hans

 

[Chuck Anumia]

Originally posted by Jon Crocker:
Would the SolCon split, or instead go for an overamped version of the 'red/blue conflict' we see now in the US? I'd expect the occasional incident on quiet starlanes between 'red' and 'blue' SolCon ships, but not for a while. The Big Bad 3I just across the border would be too useful a bogeyman to let the SolCon split so quickly.

Lots more political maneuverings, dirty tricks, maybe even an outbreak of an assasin war or a few 'breakaway/rebel' polities put down, but would the Confederation allow itself to tear itself to bits?

here would be a perfect opportunity for both sides of the conflict to hire mecenaries to do their fighting for them while givving them full deniability. Of course everyone will know who hired which Mercenaries but they could not prove it leaglly.

 

[GBoyett]

Then there's the one faction that, surprisingly, been slightly ignored: SolSec. According to RoF, Coordinator Trelevan doesn't get into politics on a regular basic.

Of course this doesn't mean he is not without power and ability. He was quite capable in dealing with various crisis, as showned by Kulkulcan and the assassination of Coordinator Kibaki. I could see him pull strings, release dirt, and black op the various faction in order to prevent the Confederation to weaken in the eyes of thier adversaries.

 

[kaladorn]

Originally posted by Larsen E. Whipsnade:
...when said knucklehead posts his guesses about what will happen on the Rim that include an Imperial Twosome.

Damn. Larsen, you suck all the joy out of MTU...

Imperial Twosome sounds like some sort of black market Tri-D that INI and S3 and a few others would make it a point to expunge wherever they came across bootleg shipments. Of course, it was entirely faked. I mean, they wouldn't, would they? There isn't any history of licentious and libertine behaviour on behalf of any nobility in times past, now is there?

 

[jappel]

Am I correct that there hasn't been a TNS update for three weeks, or am I missing them somehow?

John

 

[LKW]

Originally posted by jappel:
Am I correct that there hasn't been a TNS update for three weeks, or am I missing them somehow?

John

They will resume soon.

 

[jappel]

Thanks for the update, Loren. May the Evil Plans(tm) continue!

John

 

[Chuck Anumia]

Could someone tell me where in this present conflict the Teran Confederation is?

Who's side are they on?

Who is in charge?

What power do they have as far as finances and military (Naval) forces?

Do they have any allies?

Could they be considered a major player in the .
conflict if they sided with the Imerium?

Could I ask any more questions in one thread?

Does anyone care?

I believe I went over the edge there

 

[Anthony]

Originally posted by rancke:
Indeed, and Alderamin is going to get a really competent duke soon . He'll deal with it, I'm sure. (At least, I think I'm sure ).

Hans

Nah, the newly created duke of Esperance will get the chance to deal with that problem . Give it a while, though, the game ran for at least another year past the current events.

 

[hcobb]

Originally posted by cweiskircher:
Could someone tell me where in this present conflict the Terran Confederation is?

Do you mean the government that traces its lineage back to the Terran Confederation and is a vast star empire that includes Earth?

That's called the Imperium.