The Larianz of Byret

[daryen]

In the Spinward Marches Campaign, it briefly lists the non-human aliens native to the Spinward Marches. Given are:
- Droyne of Andor and Candory
- Llellewyloly of Junidy
- Eibokin of Yebab
- Larianz of Byret

I have two questions I need help on.

1) What are the other non-human aliens that live in the Spinward Marches? I am only looking for those detailed in CT, MT, or TNE. Please do not include the Aslan and Vargr (I know about them), or any alien from GT:Behind the Claw.

2) The SMC list above includes the "Larianz". Have they been listed, described, detailed, or whatever anywhere else? I don't think so, but want to make sure.

Thanks in advance.

 

[hydrozoa]

From adventure 10 Safari Ship (CT) - the Shriekers; they are native to
567-908 (TNE named Shvreeyiyi, after the Shrieker word for their world)) District 268 (Plankwell) subsector

 

[daryen]

Crap. You are right, I should have remembered them.

Oh, and don't worry about the Chirpers, Jonkeereen, or Nexies, either.

I am particularly worried about any minor aliens introduced in Challenge or Travellers' Digest.

Thanks.

 

[rancke]

1) What are the other non-human aliens that live in the Spinward Marches? I am only looking for those detailed in CT, MT, or TNE. Please do not include the Aslan and Vargr (I know about them), or any alien from GT:Behind the Claw.

I'll give you my whole list. Since it includes references you can sort out the ones from BtC yourself, and someone else may be interested in them all.

Hex  World Name  Species         References

0108 Gyomar      Tethmari        [BtC: 35, 37-38]
0416 Retinae     Takashi         [BtC: 34, 42]
0710 Stave       Obeyery         [BtC: 32, 41]
     Sheol[*]    Sheol           [AR1:122-133]
0838 Mewey       Mewey           [BtC: 31-32, 56]
1031 Denuli      Shriekers       [SS:40-49; De: 13-19; BtC:33-34, 73; AR4:107-115]
1131 Faldor      Otarri          [BtC: 32-33, 74]
1320 Saurus      Saurians        [BtC: 33, 65-66]
1511 Tionale     <unnamed>       [JTAS9:28-29]
1939 Craw        Crawians        [JTAS10:16-22; JTAS11:37-42]
2309 Yurst       Ursty           [BtC: 35, 83]
2523 Byret       Larianz         [SMC:18]
3002 Yebab       Eibokin         [TA:82-84, 142; BtC:31, 103; MTJ1:25]
3019 457-973     Pelosians       [SMC:20; RegS:43]
3202 Junidy      Llellewyloly    [TA:84-85, 143; BtC:31, 104; MTJ1:25*]

[*]  Gas Giant in the Querion system

2) The SMC list above includes the "Larianz". Have they been listed, described, detailed, or whatever anywhere else? I don't think so, but want to make sure.

AFAIK they're not mentioned anywhere else. But I've only this morning thought about them. I've been doing a map of the voyage of the Giirkha Girgi, the first Scout cruiser to explore the 4th Quadrant of the Spinward Marches (from late 52 to mid 56), and I've tried to include all the native populations extant at the time, including some I've made up myself (Sword Worlder misjump colonies and some refugees from the fall of the Sindalian Empire). And including the Larianz of Byret.


Hans

 

[daryen]

Thanks, Hans.

Out of curiousity, do you have such a list for Deneb, Trojan Reaches, and Reft, too.

If not, no biggie. Just wondering if you already have such things.

 

[Whipsnade]

Hans,

Wasn't the minor race on Craw part of the Keiths' article concerning world building? As such, I wouldn't think they are canonical.

The Keiths were exploring What Ifs and showing how you could expand UWPs. They weren't making canonical statements per se, they were providing examples. The natives on Craw are more of a this could explain that suggestion than an actual there is a native species on Craw statement.


Have fun,
Bill

 

[rancke]

Originally posted by Bill Cameron:
Wasn't the minor race on Craw part of the Keiths' article concerning world building? As such, I wouldn't think they are canonical.

Depends on what you mean by canonical. If you mean, "An official Traveller publication that mentions Craw without mentioning Crawians will be rejected by Ye Editor", then I guess they're not canon (and neither are the Larianz of Byret). But I tend to think of canon as graduated. JTAS articles may not be as canonical as some other material, but but it's more canonical than nothing at all. Recently Loren explicitly stated that JTAS Online wasn't canon, but when I write something up, I'm still going to do a topic search and see if anything comes up. Why not accept the Crawians? They're a good deal better documented than the Yebab and the Llellewyloly (and much better documented than the Larianz ).


Hans

 

[rancke]

Originally posted by daryen:
Thanks, Hans.

Out of curiousity, do you have such a list for Deneb, Trojan Reaches, and Reft, too.

If not, no biggie. Just wondering if you already have such things.

Yes, I've tried to make out a list of everything that's ever been mentioned in canon material. I'm pretty sure it's not completele, though. But here's what I have for those three sectors:

</font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">DENEB

0917 Kubishush Gl'lu [TD1:35*; MTJ1:25*]

Note: The Scout Service has found no native intelligent life in the Atsah subsector. [EA:46]

REFT

0435 ? Sakika [TD19:6-12]
1907 Aum-Rhar Tezcat [AR4:116-123]</pre>[/QUOTE]Hmm. That's strange. Not a single entry for the Trojan Reach. I wonder if I forgot about it or if there really aren't any non-humans living there mentioned anywhere. Usually Traveller authors introduce new non-humans (and minor humans) at the drop of a hat (I do know there are two MHRs in TR).

Here's my list of human races, btw. If any have any corrections or additions, please let me know.
</font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">The following human races are known to exist:

Name Homeworld Taxonomic name[*] References

Answerin Answerin/0431 Vland Homo sapiens ? [TD5:40; AR5:17-2
3; V&V:98]
Ayansh'i Ghost/3115 Reavers' Deep <Hominid> [RD:49]
Azhanti Irale/2315 Antares <Hominid> [AR5:24-29]
Cafadians Cafad/3135 Corridor ? [TD3:47]
Cassilldan ? ? [S&A:24]
Darrians Darrian/0624 Sp. Marches Homo sapiens darrianus [AR5:30-49; JTAS1
4:16-18]
Dynchia Melantris/Leonidae Homo dynchia [AR5:50-59; JTAs2
4:44-48]
Floriani Floria/0213 Trojan Reach Homo floriani [AR5:60-67]
Geonee Shiwonee/1430 Massilia Homo sapiens geonensis [AR5:68-78; TD11:
8]]
Halkan Halka/0510 Trojan Reach [TD20:8]
Iltharans Drexilthar/1826 Rvrs' Dp Homo sapiens ilthara [AR5:79-85]
Irhadre Chanad/0935 Lishun Homo sapiens ? [AR5:86-92]
Kargol Kargol/1205 Leonidae <Hominid> [AR5:93-102]
Loeskalth Somewhere in Gushemege ? [SR2:28, 45]
Luriani Daramm/0821 Ley Homo luriani [AR5:103-112; T20
:26]
Solomani Terra/Solomani Rim Homo sapiens sapiens [S&A:2-42]
Suerrat Ilelish/2907 Ilelish ? [JTAS26:4-5]
Sydites Khuur/ Homo ? [T20:27-28]
Syleans Capital/2118 Core) Homo sapiens ?
Tapazmal Dlaekan/3124 Trojan Reach ? [TD20:27]
Thaggeshi Thaggesh/2530 Vland ? [V&V:18]
Vilani Vland/Vland Homo sapiens vlandensis [V&V:2-39]
Vlazhdumecta Afachtiabr ? [SR2:53]
Yileans Gashikan/2732 Gashikan Homo sapiens ? [AR5:135-142]
Zhodani Zhdant/ Homo sapiens zhdotlas [JTAS9:8-11; JTAS
23:42-44; RC:59-]
<unnamed> Rejhappur/1218 Rvrs' Dp ? [RD:59]
<unnamed> Urunishu/? Antares ? [LDAM:37]

[*] Explanation of terms:

Homo sapiens <name>: The race is a Human subspecies with the indicated
canonical taxonomic name.
Homo sapiens ?: The race is canonically a Human subspecies, but its
taxonomic name has not been mentioned.
Human: From the description of the race there seems no reason why
it should not be a Human subspecies (no major differences
mentioned), but it may be a Hominid race.
Homo <name>: The race is a Hominid species (other than Homo sapiens)
with the indicated canonical taxonomic name.
Homo ?: The race is a Hominid species (other than Human), but its
taxonomic name has not been mentioned.
Hominid: From the description of the race it seems unlikely that it
should be a Human subspecies (major differences from the
root stock).
?: There is little or no description of this race [AFAIK; I
only have access to 80-90% of the relevant material].

Note that the only Minor Human Race in the Spinward Marches is the Darrians.
Ignore the references in _Behind the Claw_ to three other MHRs: the unnamed
race on 769-422 (Spinward Marches 0240), the Traltar on Thralta (Spinward
Marches 2834), and the Tondouli of Tondoul (Spinward Marches 0739). </pre>[/QUOTE]I hope you'll find it useful.


Hans

 

[david.wendelken]

This web site, http://rpol.net/display.cgi?gi=13184&ti=12&date=1127426987#bottom , has this description of the Larianz. No provenance for the data is given:




Larianz
Byret/Spinward Marches 2523 (Mora)

The Larianz are descended from four-limbed flyers native to Byret. They stand approximately 1.2m tall, massing some 35kg on average. The upper limbs are large wings, which when folded are also used for ground locomotion (the Larianz effectively stand, and walk, on their "elbows"). The lower pair of limbs are modified for manipulation.

 

[GypsyComet]

This web site, http://rpol.net/display.cgi?gi=13184&ti=12&date=1127426987#bottom , has this description of the Larianz. No provenance for the data is given:




Larianz
Byret/Spinward Marches 2523 (Mora)

The Larianz are descended from four-limbed flyers native to Byret. They stand approximately 1.2m tall, massing some 35kg on average. The upper limbs are large wings, which when folded are also used for ground locomotion (the Larianz effectively stand, and walk, on their "elbows"). The lower pair of limbs are modified for manipulation.

So they're Ythrii?

 

[Gray Pennell]

Thats a great list thanks for the site!

 

[david.wendelken]

So they're Ythrii?

Huh?

 

[Carlobrand]

Ythrii: Birdlike sapients from Poul Anderson's, "The People of the Wind".

I used to have a game based on that. Had to give it up in one of my moves; pity, I rather liked it.

 

[GypsyComet]

One of the factors that leads each of us to be playing a different game even though we are all playing Traveller is that the inspirations that led us to Traveller are all different. In this case it is generational; we old fogeys tended to come from SF literature, with Poul Anderson, Asimov, Heinlein, Norton, and others forming the core. Visual media, including Trek TOS, Star Wars IV-VI, Outland, and others of the 60s and 70s, as well as older classics such as Forbidden Planet, were part of it as well.

Newer players, partly due to some compelling new examples of visual media (Firefly, New BSG, Farscape, later Trek, etc) and the passing of many of the SF authors and the subsequent disappearance of their books from stores, tend to focus on the TV and movie examples as "what brought them to Traveller". The available SF literature these days is also different, being overwhelmingly military in flavor and often descending into gun ⌧.

This isn't a bad thing for Traveller, but it does occasionally lead to missed references. "People of the Wind" was a bit obscure even when Poul Anderson was alive. I think it only got two editions and limited printings within those editions, unlike the much more popular Flandry stories.

 

[Carlobrand]

...Visual media, including Trek TOS, Star Wars IV-VI, Outland, and others of the 60s and 70s, as well as older classics such as Forbidden Planet, were part of it as well.

Ah, Forbidden Planet, now THERE was a classic. Made Robbie a star.

...This isn't a bad thing for Traveller, but it does occasionally lead to missed references. "People of the Wind" was a bit obscure even when Poul Anderson was alive. I think it only got two editions and limited printings within those editions, unlike the much more popular Flandry stories.

Good point. I honestly only found out about the book after I bought the game - and I haven't seen the slightest sign of the game anywhere on the market in a couple decades.