T5 Presentation

[Moebius]

I've looked at the book and it is daunting. Looking at the preview of the CDRom, this seems like maybe the intended presentation over a physical copy. I feel like T5 might lend itself well to an SRD type format.

T5 flows more smoothly as a digital presentation over a physical book.

Is that what was intended, maybe?

 

[David Johansen]

I think that was the original intent. I think it needs more interactive features to work well that way.

 

[OjnoTheRed]

I think I saw robject post somewhere that it is intended as the complete bible for the Referee; not all of it gets used in particular adventures. But obviously the usual stuff pops out as important: character generation, skills & tasks, combat. What I like about it is the elegance in the rules such as size & distance benchmarks being repeated across multiple different systems.

 

[Moebius]

My ability to use the search feature is at -1 or something, for I'm sure this has been discussed.

It seems T5 would benefit greatly to be presented in LBBs. It seems like a no-brainer. Surely this has already been thought of!

 

[aramis]

My ability to use the search feature is at -1 or something, for I'm sure this has been discussed.

It seems T5 would benefit greatly to be presented in LBBs. It seems like a no-brainer. Surely this has already been thought of!

to make it fit... well t5 is 500pp letter, so that world be roughly 1100 pp igest, at 64pp/lbb... 17 LBBs, minimum.

 

[David Johansen]

I don't think character creation would fit in a LBB. But you know? What about a book per career that's a complete character creation booklet? That'd be a neat handout.

What could go in LBBS?

1 Career + Character Creation

2 Combat + Basic Weapons and Armor

3 Starship Owners Manual

4 Psionics and You

I could see it being a fun way to break up the current rules to create some tools but I expect the player's book covers the same territory.

 

[Mako]

Perhaps, if it were broken up into several publications, with a sleeve to fit over them all, to keep the dust out, keep them together, etc., etc., like they used to do with book sets, and/or still do with DVD sets, etc..

Seems to me if T5.1 were broken up into 3 books (a nod back to the original CT product), or even 5 or so, if logically arranged, they would be a lot easier to use, and far less unwieldy.

It goes without saying that a Table of Contents, and/or Index would be a good idea. Perhaps the Index could even be a separate booklet, too, for convenience sake, though it would probably be best to have the appropriate Index for each book at the end instead, as most books do.

 

[Baltech Budapest]

I always saw the T5 'monolith' book as the ultimate bible or reference book for the referee. I'm sure that a series of LBBs wouldn't need all of the information from the monolith book.
I would love to see a T5 Lite in the same size and format as Marc's novel Agent Of The Imperium (in hardback or softback). Now that would be awesome!!

 

[exedore6]

While the BBB is huge, it covers everything - far more than a LBB set. There's a lot of trimming that can happen for the scope and detail that the LBBs provide. We don't need all the careers, could probably drop college, risk/reward mods right away.

Without any rewrites, Characters and Combat can fit in 130 pages, and that's without purging all of the minutiae from the text.

 

[IanCooper]

I have some vague, possibly phantom, memory that the original idea was to present in a ring binder, making it possible to add or replace sections over time. As such it was a compendium of rules, designed to be picked up as the 'advanced' version of a more basic product.

But this might all be in my head.

 

[whulorigan]

I have some vague, possibly phantom, memory that the original idea was to present in a ring binder, making it possible to add or replace sections over time. As such it was a compendium of rules, designed to be picked up as the 'advanced' version of a more basic product.

But this might all be in my head.

One of the very early preliminary descriptions did put forward that idea (ca ~2005).

 

[Baltech Budapest]

One of the very early preliminary descriptions did put forward that idea (ca ~2005).

I remember seeing a photo (on FFE website?) showing the ring binder idea a few years back, possibly 2010 or 2011

 

[BytePro]

This?

http://www.tedlindsey.com/art/art/traveller_3d_files/page6-1000-full.html

 

[whulorigan]

This?

http://www.tedlindsey.com/art/art/traveller_3d_files/page6-1000-full.html

Yes, as a matter of fact. That is the image I was remembering. Although I believe at one time it was up on traveller5.net?

 

[BytePro]

Yes, as a matter of fact. That is the image I was remembering. Although I believe at one time it was up on traveller5.net?

Yes, but seem to recall traveller5.net was not owned by FFE at that time and the image was a fan's vision (assume Ted Lindsey).

 

[Ulsyus]

As said a few times, the BBB is a great tome for a referee to have.

The material needed by players could be reasonably contained. Dice, range and distance, benchmarks, money, Characteristics through to Life Pursuits & Experience, tasks, skills, and personal combat. Unfortunately that still comes out at close to 180 pages

What can be shaved off this list?

 

[Bravesteel]

I split my BBB into five (I think) binders to help me find things a little easier. I'll take a look at how I split the chapters up when I get home.

 

[Bravesteel]

Looks like I divided the BBB into five binders:

Binder #1:

Intro
Basic
Characters

Binder #2:

Intro
Basic
Characters
Actions
Personal Combat
The Armory

Binder #3:

The Armory through Vehicle Maker
Technology
Trade

Binder#4:

Starports & Starships
Stars and Worlds

Binder #5:

Special Situations
Adventures
Appendices


All of the binders have the index in the back. It works alright, but there is just so much information to organize.

 

[b0k]

Why 5 binders? Unless I'm missing something here, why not condense it to 4?

You had said:

Binder #1:

Intro
Basic
Characters

Binder #2:

Intro
Basic
Characters
Actions
Personal Combat
The Armory

 

[Bravesteel]

Why 5 binders? Unless I'm missing something here, why not condense it to 4?

You had said:

Binder #1:

Intro
Basic
Characters

Binder #2:

Intro
Basic
Characters
Actions
Personal Combat
The Armory

I think I did that so I could give someone a separate binder for character creation all by itself.