Supporting a Faction
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Michael Schulz
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Daibei baby, woot, woot.
Actually, I like Daibei because 1) it lets you adventure in an area about which very, very little has been written. 2) the party would be caught in the middle of the Aslan, the Solomani, Dulinor (who is technically Archduke of the region), and Lucan (who hates them seperatists). Oh and there's the odd pirate and envoy from Margaret as well. And finally Duke Craig seems like a decent guy. Kind of a Norris but totally screwed.
Actually, I like Daibei because 1) it lets you adventure in an area about which very, very little has been written. 2) the party would be caught in the middle of the Aslan, the Solomani, Dulinor (who is technically Archduke of the region), and Lucan (who hates them seperatists). Oh and there's the odd pirate and envoy from Margaret as well. And finally Duke Craig seems like a decent guy. Kind of a Norris but totally screwed.
Border Reiver
SOC-14 1K
Daibei baby!
The Lizard Boy lives!
The Lizard Boy lives!
Margaret, She has the experience, cool head and quiet ways.
She has what is needed for pulling the empire back together (at least before that nasty Virus is let loose).
(And she is a Hot Vaca)
She has what is needed for pulling the empire back together (at least before that nasty Virus is let loose).
(And she is a Hot Vaca)
Dulinor, as from the very beginning I saw him as the tragic Brutus trying to change but caught in the whirlwind itself.
Dulinor was meant to be a fall guy for all that is wrong. As by all accounts Lucan is portrayed as the perfect villain yet throughout, it is the men under Dulinor who commit some of the greatest evils. Paradox. Certainly that is what I love about Traveller constantly challenging our assumptions.
Plus, if my Prince/Pauper theory holds true from a previous post, I can understand why Lucan was able to motivate such large numbers of people...he came from being one of them. Hence, Lucan becomes like Richard the humpback.
Dulinor was meant to be a fall guy for all that is wrong. As by all accounts Lucan is portrayed as the perfect villain yet throughout, it is the men under Dulinor who commit some of the greatest evils. Paradox. Certainly that is what I love about Traveller constantly challenging our assumptions.
Plus, if my Prince/Pauper theory holds true from a previous post, I can understand why Lucan was able to motivate such large numbers of people...he came from being one of them. Hence, Lucan becomes like Richard the humpback.
far-trader
SOC-14 10K
Mi'lord Aransala, interesting poll, I am still unable to choose having come back to this again. I'm more for uniting than dividing* but I will have to give it some more thought and choose so that I can see the results.
* Thanks for the unintended mirth your alert to this poll is providing (over here) and I hope you take in the good nature it is offered
* Thanks for the unintended mirth your alert to this poll is providing (over here) and I hope you take in the good nature it is offered
Gents,
This is a tough one...
The touble is we're voting with perfect knowledge of the situation. Look at Jame's post. He wants to start a faction that will survive Virus, but how would he know about Virus in 1117? It's a great idea, but it is also an idea that Eneri Q. Public wouldn't have in 1117. (Although, there was that late adventure in the Challenge...)
We all must ask ourselves the same question; Did your vote actually rely on knowing the OTU's future?
I eventually voted for Norris. I spent most of my playing time there so it follows that my fictional OTU self would most likely be somewhere 'Behind the Claw'.
You'll all scream bloody blue murder with this one but, if I had been on Sylea when the balloon went up, I can easily see myself supporting Lucan initially! I'd like to think I'd find a way to change my mind once Lucan reveals he's a raving lunatic.
So... It's not how you voted, it's why you voted!
Have fun,
Bill
This is a tough one...
The touble is we're voting with perfect knowledge of the situation. Look at Jame's post. He wants to start a faction that will survive Virus, but how would he know about Virus in 1117? It's a great idea, but it is also an idea that Eneri Q. Public wouldn't have in 1117. (Although, there was that late adventure in the Challenge...)
We all must ask ourselves the same question; Did your vote actually rely on knowing the OTU's future?
I eventually voted for Norris. I spent most of my playing time there so it follows that my fictional OTU self would most likely be somewhere 'Behind the Claw'.
You'll all scream bloody blue murder with this one but, if I had been on Sylea when the balloon went up, I can easily see myself supporting Lucan initially! I'd like to think I'd find a way to change my mind once Lucan reveals he's a raving lunatic.
So... It's not how you voted, it's why you voted!
Have fun,
Bill
mike wightman
SOC-14 10K
I voted for Dulinor because I can understand his reasons for wanting an Imperium that acts for the benefit of all its citizens.
His methods were consistent with long established precedent - especially among the noble classes of MTU
And without Virus he would have won
His methods were consistent with long established precedent - especially among the noble classes of MTU
And without Virus he would have won
Greetings and salutations,
Far-trader, I realized my faux pas in the other forum after I posted. Even I had to laugh at my mistake. I hope that it would provide a measure of humor and some intersting discussion. It would look like I have succeeded on both fronts.
As for choosing a f(r)action, take you time, sir. This is a decision that can not be taken lightly. The Imperium will need citizens that will act in its best intersts.
Long live the Imperium!
Far-trader, I realized my faux pas in the other forum after I posted. Even I had to laugh at my mistake. I hope that it would provide a measure of humor and some intersting discussion. It would look like I have succeeded on both fronts.
As for choosing a f(r)action, take you time, sir. This is a decision that can not be taken lightly. The Imperium will need citizens that will act in its best intersts.
Long live the Imperium!
Greetings and salutations,
When I played MT, my character was an ex-Army officer that became a mercenary. He was the son of a noble woman and a retired Army officer. Father had chosen to support Norris and mother had chosen to support Margaret. Father ordered me to keep mother safe at all cost.
As far as my character's choose was concern, he varied between Norris, Margaret, and Dulinor. However, being a mercenary, my character in essence supported the three aforementioned factions as well as Daibei. Due to protecting mother, I slow succumbed to supporting Margaret's faction more and more when I was not on a mercenary ticket from Margaret, Norris, Dulinor, or Daibei.
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When I played MT, my character was an ex-Army officer that became a mercenary. He was the son of a noble woman and a retired Army officer. Father had chosen to support Norris and mother had chosen to support Margaret. Father ordered me to keep mother safe at all cost.
As far as my character's choose was concern, he varied between Norris, Margaret, and Dulinor. However, being a mercenary, my character in essence supported the three aforementioned factions as well as Daibei. Due to protecting mother, I slow succumbed to supporting Margaret's faction more and more when I was not on a mercenary ticket from Margaret, Norris, Dulinor, or Daibei.
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- He believed in the ideology of Dulinor but did not agree with the method of how he came to the thrown.</font>
- Lucan was not traineed in the ways of beng an emperor and left the empire open to invasion. Thanks for the work, Lucan.</font>
- The Solomani were too racist.</font>
- There were too many questions I had about Strephon after he stepped forward to reclaim his throne. But part of me had some loyalty to him. I just needed to have my questions answered.</font>
I, and most of my players, have always been pro Dulinor.
Lucan was unredeemable.
Margaret was, to say the least, too humanocentric and cyber-paranoid as presented.
Craig was, well, petulant, and seized power he should not have, possibly reasserting power he once had legitimately held, then going far beyond.
Norris wasn't vying for the throne; he just wanted a clear choice for whom to follow, and to protect his people from the war.
Brzrk could never overcome the stigma of being a vargr in the moot. His kids might have been able to.
The Confed simply wants to destroy the imperium, or at least, recover their old turf.
Vland was in clear violation of the imperial government, and were protecting norris from being part.
Strephon, real or not, was declared dead by the moot. Too bad they didn't declare an emperor. THat there was a palace coup is proof enough alone he did not belong as emperor.
This leaves Dulinor. He's got a valid claim, weak though it be, and is a populist. Traits my players admired. He was the epitome of "Government of Men, not Laws"... and this, too appealed to my players.
Lucan was unredeemable.
Margaret was, to say the least, too humanocentric and cyber-paranoid as presented.
Craig was, well, petulant, and seized power he should not have, possibly reasserting power he once had legitimately held, then going far beyond.
Norris wasn't vying for the throne; he just wanted a clear choice for whom to follow, and to protect his people from the war.
Brzrk could never overcome the stigma of being a vargr in the moot. His kids might have been able to.
The Confed simply wants to destroy the imperium, or at least, recover their old turf.
Vland was in clear violation of the imperial government, and were protecting norris from being part.
Strephon, real or not, was declared dead by the moot. Too bad they didn't declare an emperor. THat there was a palace coup is proof enough alone he did not belong as emperor.
This leaves Dulinor. He's got a valid claim, weak though it be, and is a populist. Traits my players admired. He was the epitome of "Government of Men, not Laws"... and this, too appealed to my players.
Gents,
I continually fail to see how someone can support a faction based sectors away from their location. Dreadlocks' post reminded me of this again.
In it, he mentions how his family is somehow split between Margaret and Norris. Huh?!? I mean; HUH?!??? Those two factions are about as far apart as you can get and still be in the borders of what used to be the Imperium.
How do you 'support' Margaret when you're on Mora and how do you 'support' Norris when you on Anaxias? How the hell would you even know about the other's claims enough to decide? And even if you did, what the hell could you actually do?
I can see being torn between Dulinor, Lucan, and Margaret in some central sector like Massila or Zarushagar but, once you get towards the 'edges' any doubts about which faction you support or can support is rather moot (pun intended).
Let's be honest here. Is there really any substantial Craig support in Antares? Any Brzk support in Deneb? Any Norris support in Dagudaashaag? Other than opting for The Brothers of Varian - which is really not choosing a faction at all - having the 'luxury' to choose a faction is actually limited to those sectors 'lucky' enough to find themselves between Craig, Dulinor, Lucan, and Margaret.
As far as the rest are concerned, your current X-boat address selected your faction for you.
Have fun,
Bill
I continually fail to see how someone can support a faction based sectors away from their location. Dreadlocks' post reminded me of this again.
In it, he mentions how his family is somehow split between Margaret and Norris. Huh?!? I mean; HUH?!??? Those two factions are about as far apart as you can get and still be in the borders of what used to be the Imperium.
How do you 'support' Margaret when you're on Mora and how do you 'support' Norris when you on Anaxias? How the hell would you even know about the other's claims enough to decide? And even if you did, what the hell could you actually do?
I can see being torn between Dulinor, Lucan, and Margaret in some central sector like Massila or Zarushagar but, once you get towards the 'edges' any doubts about which faction you support or can support is rather moot (pun intended).
Let's be honest here. Is there really any substantial Craig support in Antares? Any Brzk support in Deneb? Any Norris support in Dagudaashaag? Other than opting for The Brothers of Varian - which is really not choosing a faction at all - having the 'luxury' to choose a faction is actually limited to those sectors 'lucky' enough to find themselves between Craig, Dulinor, Lucan, and Margaret.
As far as the rest are concerned, your current X-boat address selected your faction for you.
Have fun,
Bill
far-trader
SOC-14 10K
I'm with Bill on this, that's the reason I'm having a hard time deciding what to pick.
My first pick would be Norris because most of my PC's are Marchers. But that doesn't reflect what I'd choose in a historical 20/20 hindsight free to choose where and when I pick a side state of mind. And that's the problem. We all know how it went down and can't make that choice but once. The first time we heard the news in character.
So for me, I guess I'll go tick off Norris as my most honest answer
At least I'll get to see how things are breaking down
My first pick would be Norris because most of my PC's are Marchers. But that doesn't reflect what I'd choose in a historical 20/20 hindsight free to choose where and when I pick a side state of mind. And that's the problem. We all know how it went down and can't make that choice but once. The first time we heard the news in character.
So for me, I guess I'll go tick off Norris as my most honest answer
far-trader
SOC-14 10K
About what I figured, given that the Marches are the most detailed and played in sector.
I must say that the "Start your own" seems a bit high. Do we really have that many egomaniacs here
I mean, consider what would be required, as a minimum to start what could be considered even a minor faction in The Rebellion at it's earliest. I think at the least you'd have to be a serving Grand Admiral with the popular loyalty of an active and high tech fleet of warships. At the very least. And even then once the actual powers lined up you'd have to pick one to side with or just find somewhere to hide till the smoke cleared.
I must say that the "Start your own" seems a bit high. Do we really have that many egomaniacs here
I mean, consider what would be required, as a minimum to start what could be considered even a minor faction in The Rebellion at it's earliest. I think at the least you'd have to be a serving Grand Admiral with the popular loyalty of an active and high tech fleet of warships. At the very least. And even then once the actual powers lined up you'd have to pick one to side with or just find somewhere to hide till the smoke cleared.
