So... has anyone created fighters/smallcraft?

[Nerhesi]

I'd assume you'd need to use the regular ship-maker and then reference the beta smallcraft maker for the missing parts? Anyone care to provide some examples or fill me in on the process?

 

[Reban]

You need to look at Robjects Smallcraft design work-through here
http://www.travellerrpg.com/CotI/Discuss/showthread.php?t=29680

You might find some useful bits and pieces in this thread I started too
http://www.travellerrpg.com/CotI/Discuss/showthread.php?t=29680

 

[Nerhesi]

I was under the impression this was the approach before people realised the beta smallcraft maker is on the cd?

 

[robject]

Nerhesi, as to your original question: yes, I have designed many small craft, using the Beta system. My main goal was to suggest values that would make the resulting designs extremely close to those from Classic Traveller, Book 2; in effect, to BE the small craft design system for both T5 and CT.

I was under the impression this was the approach before people realised the beta smallcraft maker is on the cd?

Quite the opposite. Marc's omission of the beta small craft maker gave me the opportunity of pitching small craft via ACS.

The beta maker is fine, don't get me wrong. But, sometimes a small craft is a vehicle, and sometimes it is more like a spacecraft. I am primarily thinking in terms of armor, but if small craft can be built with ACS, then I think we have a fundamental split in purpose, as well.

 

[Nerhesi]

Thanks Robject - so am I to understand, the smallcraft maker treats all smallcraft as vehicles not spacecraft?

Does that affect the end product in terms of fighter/smallcraft robustness? and which presents results closer to any of the examples provided in T5 (Should they even exist...)

 

[robject]

Thanks Robject - so am I to understand, the smallcraft maker treats all smallcraft as vehicles not spacecraft?

Does that affect the end product in terms of fighter/smallcraft robustness? and which presents results closer to any of the examples provided in T5 (Should they even exist...)

The Beta produces versions quite close enough to CT Book 2. However, if they indeed are vehicles, then armor is insignificant for space combat. Additionally, weapons may well be a problem. Beta didn't say if armor was vehicular or spacecraft-rated.

 

[Nerhesi]

The Beta produces versions quite close enough to CT Book 2. However, if they indeed are vehicles, then armor is insignificant for space combat. Additionally, weapons may well be a problem. Beta didn't say if armor was vehicular or spacecraft-rated.

Are there any T5 smallcraft/fighters examples that can be compared to either spacecraft maker/vehicle maker to see which works best?

 

[robject]

Are there any T5 smallcraft/fighters examples that can be compared to either spacecraft maker/vehicle maker to see which works best?

A few. I think SmallcraftMaker works better, but the ACS Craft Maker is more flexible. Probably both can coexist.

I've got a topic on building small craft with ACS. I'll post comparisons with the *Maker.