Silly little question.

[jawillroy]

In reference to planetary trade classification (there are more than CT!):

Are Lo and Ni additive, or is a planet either Lo or Ni?

Makes a difference in trade, and homeworld skills, you see.

If it says, I've missed it. (the book is so big)

 

[robject]

Additive. The more, the merrier.

 

[Daddicus]

Definitely additive. In theory, one world could have all of them, but there are some that preclude others (like Hi vs. Lo, and Ri vs. Po). The most I've seen on one world is 5, but I'm sure there are worlds with more.

 

[jawillroy]

And I have another silly little question! Not spelled out AFAICT, so wondering how people are handling it:

I can see that it's very likely that most fresh players/parties that want a ship can basically have one, as long as there are sufficient shares available for it.

I also see that if there are insufficient shares to cover the entire ship, the remainder can be financed.

SO.

Are folks having the shareholders handle the remaining percentage of monthly payments on the WHOLE ship, or are folks arranging financing for the percentage not covered in shares?

Or does this problem not happen anymore, since players just make sure they have enough shares?

 

[aramis]

You owe 40 years on the financed portion.

Note that the cheapest end is about MCr30...

There is a sidebar on page 137 of the MGT CRB that mentions how to handle it. Putting it into a more clear process.

Step 1: figure out total cost of ship.
Step 2: Figure out total shares.
Step 3: Subtract value of step 2 from value in step 1. This is the financed amount.
Step 4: monthly payment = financed amount/240.

Note that this IS different from other editions' mortgages. In other editions, there was a 20% down requirement, and the payment was based upon the whole price, not the financed price, so the actual payment was 1/192 of the financed amount.)

 

[jawillroy]

You owe 40 years on the financed portion.

Note that the cheapest end is about MCr30...

There is a sidebar on page 137 of the MGT CRB that mentions how to handle it. Putting it into a more clear process.

Step 1: figure out total cost of ship.
Step 2: Figure out total shares.
Step 3: Subtract value of step 2 from value in step 1. This is the financed amount.
Step 4: monthly payment = financed amount/240.

Note that this IS different from other editions' mortgages. In other editions, there was a 20% down requirement, and the payment was based upon the whole price, not the financed price, so the actual payment was 1/192 of the financed amount.)

Cool, thanks - that's clearer.

It surely would be nice to have a single ruleset that retains such clarity throughout!

 

[Daddicus]

I think it can go either way. The "owner" could be the one who pays all the bills, or the party could decide to become best buddies and all work on it together.

In my D&D campaigns, the parties usually pooled their resources and split the wealth evenly. But, it doesn't have to be that way. Thieves can steal from the party.

It's similar in Traveller. Think of Firefly: they more or less pooled their resources, but there was just one captain.

One caution is that parties that operate with independent finances can end up fighting each other. Could be hard to roleplay.

 

[jawillroy]

Could be hard to roleplay.

As Ref, I'm pretty okay with that. All my players are grown ups, and if their characters fall out, they won't.

 

[jawillroy]

And another silly little question: Has anyone determined in T5 what the consequences for using unrefined fuel might be, for a ship without purifiers?

 

[atpollard]

And another silly little question: Has anyone determined in T5 what the consequences for using unrefined fuel might be, for a ship without purifiers?

Pirates track your ship and ambush you when you emerge from jump.

(Sorry, I couldn't resist.)

 

[jawillroy]

Well, obvs. THAT happens no matter what fuel you use.

 

[maksimsmelchak]

In reference to planetary trade classification (there are more than CT!):
Are Lo and Ni additive, or is a planet either Lo or Ni?
Makes a difference in trade, and homeworld skills, you see.
If it says, I've missed it. (the book is so big)

I think I've seen at least 12 different modifiers on certain popular plants.

Here is an explanation of the most standard ones: [http://wiki.travellerrpg.com/Trade_classification ]

And here is discussion of what I think is practically all of them: [http://wiki.travellerrpg.com/Talk:Trade_classification ]

Many of them are rarely used and certain combinations of them, while possible, never get used.

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.

 

[jawillroy]

I guess my question is specifically with stacking those trade classifications that are new (at least since CT afaict.)

The closer I look at T5, it looks as though Lo and Ni are NOT additive: Lo is populations 1-3; Ni is population 4-6. So if I'm converting my TU over to T5 (and I may) I'll have to swap over a bunch of my Ni worlds to Lo...

I do like the classifications of Pre-ag and Pre-in; that matches with how I generally interpreted the worlds which didn't quite fit Ag or In.

 

[robject]

And another silly little question: Has anyone determined in T5 what the consequences for using unrefined fuel might be, for a ship without purifiers?

NOT a silly question.

Please add that ERRATA to the pile, unless someone finds the hunk of text that says "mishap" right next to "jump with unrefined fuel".