[Shipyard] 500t Yacht

[robject]

Yacht Y-EU42 Bakaal Sunflower MCr181.5 [Tukera]

Disposition: In Service

Built on a 500-ton TL14 unstreamlined hull, the yacht is a noble’s plaything for entertaining friends and undertak- ingpolitical or commercial missions. It mounts drives giving it jump-2 and 4-G. Fuel tankage supports five months of power plant operations and allows two successive jump-2; it incorporates fuel intakes for refueling from a water source. Adjacent to the bridge is a Model/3 computer. Added to a basic sensor suite is a neutrino detector, stealth mask, and a standard proximeter.

The yacht is built around its luxurious staterooms, including one double stateroom suite for the owner. There are five hardpoints, but no weaponry is installed. There are three ship’s vehicles: an air/raft, a 30-ton ship’s boat, and an ATV. The ship’s boat is fitted to ferry the ATV from orbit to surface and back. Cargo capacity is 20 tons. The yacht is unstream- lined, and is capable of tarmac and water landings only. The yacht requires a minimum crew of four: pilot/astrogator, three engineers, and a steward/medic. In practice, it carries sev- eral more stewards.

Crew comfort: -1
Passenger demand: 5

    Tons  TN  Component                             MCr  Notes
--------  --  --------------------------------- -------  --------------------
     500  12  Unstreamlined Hull                     17  U
       5  14  Flotation hull                          5  
       0  14  AV=7. 1 Kinetic Organic                 0  
     166  12  Jump Fuel (4  parsecs)                  0  J4, 41t/pc
    82.5  12  Plant Fuel (5 months)                   0  5 months
       1  8   Fuel Intakes 40t/hr                   0.1  40t/hr
       1  8   Fuel Purifiers 4t/hr                    1  4t/hr
      19  14  Maneuver Drive-4 (K)                   38  4 G
   10.23  14  Adv PowerPlant-4 (K)                   31  P 4
     9.9  14  Adv Jump Drive-2 (E)                   30  J 2
       0  14  LR Surf Neutrino Detector             2.5  
       0  14  LR Surf Stealth Mask                  2.5  
       0  14  G Surf Proximeter                     4.1  
       0  14  LR Surf EMS                           2.5  
       0  14  LR Surf Communicator                  2.5  
       0  14  LR Surf Scope                         2.5  
       5  12  AR T1 Empty (5)                         1  #5 
       3  17  Computer Model/3 std                 10.5  
       4  14  Life Support Long Term (2)              4  #2 40 person-months
       1  14  Life Support Luxury                     1  10 high passengers
      16  16  Spacious Controls                       0  
      16  14  Crew Single Stateroom (8)             0.8  #8 1 crew
       2  14  Crew Shared Fresher (4)                 2  #4 4 crew
       8  14  Crew Lounge (2)                         0  #2 
      20  12  Cargo Hold Basic                        0  
      12  14  Owner's Suite                         0.8  1 passenger + fresher
      42  14  Luxury Suite (7)                      2.8  #7 1 passenger + fresher
      28  14  Passenger Lounge (7)                    0  #7 
       4  9   Air/Raft Enclosed                     0.1  
      30  14  Fast Boat                              14  
       1  9   ATV                                     1  
       4  14  Vehicle Brackets                        4

 

[Selandia]

just on time

With all those new noble around, it was the most needed ship in town...err ...I mean in the Imperium.

Just used yesterday's evening on the topic.
Do not have my work with me at the office, so no math comments, just functionnal questions.

Why water landing rather than strut for wilderness landing (on 0-1-2 athm world). You need a world wo athm + water. Unless you are a diver, its going to be hard to take a walk around the ship (I know there is the air raft...just joking)

Yatch are too juicy target, I always put a defensive turret. In this case, I would put the ostensible clasic double: Laser and Sand Caster. Since attack is the best defense (and you go to the expense of 4G as if patrol boat), add two triple vertical launch for missiles -the type easily concealled- (what do mean piracy? Doesn't that need a total of 4 concealled launchers?.)

Crew: Pilot/astro, 3 eng, stw/medic, 2 stw/gnr (those 3 are ex military type that can also act as bodyguard), stw (a real cook, reject aplication by former service cook)

Allow 2 additionnal single crew room + shared frsh for personal steward/bodyguards of visitors (segregated from other crew, for HJack prevention purpose), adjust life support,

Add 2 low berths for medical emergency. If using your Yatch to move your personal servant from one world's estate to another world's estate with you you may put more low berth ( slaver? :nonono

The J fuel of 2 + 1 is IMHO sufficient, leaving room for the modifications and more cargo space (what do mean by "is there a secret compartment?"

have fun

Selandia
Count of the Spinward Marches,
shopping for a 500t Yatch, 200 tonner to sell

 

[Vladika]

Why a floatation hull for an streamlined ship?

Seriously, how many planets is a rich dude going to visit with and atmosphere of 2 or less to start with?:nonono: And how many of those are going to have wet water?:nonono:

I'd have to insist on a streamline hull for a yacht.

 

[Selandia]

Why a floatation hull for an streamlined ship?

Seriously, how many planets is a rich dude going to visit with and atmosphere of 2 or less to start with?:nonono: And how many of those are going to have wet water?:nonono:

I'd have to insist on a streamline hull for a yacht.

Add to that: not frozen water (and I suppose you mean ...for an unstreamlined...)

The original LBB Yacht was not streamlined, I suppose people learned to live with that. Still I agree with you and the Vanderbilt model shown in the BBB is clearly streamlined. You could save the Ship's boat (use a ramp for the ATV) or use a 20t gig.

Selandia
Count of Spinward Marches

 

[Spinward Scout]

Seriously, how many planets is a rich dude going to visit with and atmosphere of 2 or less to start with?

No, that's bragging rights.

"My ship and the rest of my retinue are in orbit awaiting my return..."

Also, when landing:

"This is Lord Halcyon's yacht, the Spinward Tiger, requesting a two-fighter escort for Lord Halcyon's shuttle, to make planetary insertion. Make sure the fighters are very visible."

The yacht can stay in orbit. The landing craft would be sleek and stylish.

 

[Vladika]

The yacht can stay in orbit. The landing craft would be sleek and stylish.

Hmmm, yeah, a 500dTon yacht could carry a couple of service smallcraft. One sleek and stylish, the other utilitarian to go for the groceries. Fuel skimming would be a necessity for one smallcraft as the yacht has your unstreamlined hull. (Both should be able to skim for redundancy.)

Think of all those backwater planets "Sir Gad-about" will be showing off on.

 

[robject]

I was shocked how fast the extra tonnage was used up by this design.

OP updated.

 

[Murdoc]

Crew comfort: -1
Passenger demand: 5

:rofl: Yeah, it's a noble ship.
And I too think that having intakes on a u/s ship is weird.

 

[copperhamster]

An unstreamlined ship can enter atmosphere... it just has to do so very carefully.

 

[Levi]

Please excuse my ignorance, I am still waiting on the kickstarter so I don't know the new rules. If the ship isn't streamlined, how does one get it to the source of water for refueling? Is the noble out in the asteroid belt melting down ice asteroids to refuel rather than paying for refined at the star port?

 

[Reban]

Its not water being used for refueling but Hydrogen. T5 has rules about descending through the different cloud/atmospheric layers to find hydrogen.

You can dip for liquid water or mine ice but you still have to refine it for hydrogen.


Btw do "scoops" have to be big funnel or intake like features on the ships hull. What about the giant lattice work scoop seen on Bussard ramships. Arn't they charged to attract elemental hydrogen in space? Just a thought that might break the mental link with scoops and streamlined hulls.

 

[Vladika]

If the ship isn't streamlined, how does one get it to the source of water for refueling?

Under the new rules the ship, using it's anti-gravity and thruster plates, judiciously, can slowly lower itself through an atmosphere. It just can't go racing through as it would burn up due to friction with the atmosphere.

To me this make perfect sense (As long as we "believe" in those magic anti-gravity and thruster plates). If an air-raft or G-carrier can do it, why not a ship?

I'd still believe that gas giant skimming, as we currently think of it, would not work. Currently, a rapidly moving ship encounters vastly more hydrogen molecules than a slow moving one would. Some new rules for this might be in order, otherwise, I'm personally using the one week "unstreamlined fleet refueling" rule from HG & TCS.

 

[Selandia]

@Levi
The unstreamlined config allow to graze the upper athm of gaz giant and pick up the unrefined fuel. The ship boat could be used as fuel shuttle. The Yacht will usually run between high port (opinion below).

@robjet
The 2+2 jump design with 4 G and 5 month life support look like an exploration/ adventuring design to me (IMHO), not a luxury tour bus or space Recreational Vehicule.
- Streamlining should be part of such a design.
- Luxury cabin are best for Yacht that are recrational (J2, G2, P2, 2 months)rather than efficient mean to get in harms' way (opinion below)

a general comment on Yacht
Because of the ship's boat, air/raft and large ATV the Yacht is capable to be an exploration/adventuring in the wilderness ship. However, large scout or safari ships are supposed to be the real thing for those thing. The Yacht is a) to carry the noble and his retinue between high port, much like today private jet or b) Tour Bus / Recreational Vehicule. Those are quite unlike today's luxury Yacht. Even a space luxury cabin is chicken shit when compare with what you can rent on a luxury Yacht in Monaco harbor (that would be the lusury suite). Standard High is about like train travel in Pullman type car. The luxury stateroom is ok recreational accomodation as it offer the comfort of a run of the mill city outskirt motel. To get in harms way, ship-out a couple of luxury cabins and fit-in some barracks.

Questions:
airlock?
ATV = 1 ton = ground car; given up on the big paramilitary thing?
how you work the brackets for the ship's boat?

anyway, what matter is to have fun

Selandia

 

[Magnus von Thornwood]

Look here.

Please excuse my ignorance, I am still waiting on the kickstarter so I don't know the new rules. If the ship isn't streamlined, how does one get it to the source of water for refueling? Is the noble out in the asteroid belt melting down ice asteroids to refuel rather than paying for refined at the star port?

Have you seen the price of fuel these days? I know you all think that just because we have titles we are rich, but really it ain't true. Now suit up, grab a tool and get out there and get me my damned gas!

 

[Levi]

Thanks everybody, those are some nifty new rules, I can't wait to see them. Honestly, I always thought that the idea of a starship skimming out of a lake on an inhabited world (and terrifying the domestic grazers) would be a constant source of irritation for the locals.

 

[SpaceBadger]

Thanks everybody, those are some nifty new rules, I can't wait to see them. Honestly, I always thought that the idea of a starship skimming out of a lake on an inhabited world (and terrifying the domestic grazers) would be a constant source of irritation for the locals.

I liked Magnus's note in one of his Permatic Imperium posts about frontier refueling actually being illegal in most inhabited systems, as the locals regard the gas giant resources as belonging to them and not just free for the taking without permits, fees, etc.

 

[Levi]

I liked Magnus's note in one of his Permatic Imperium posts about frontier refueling actually being illegal in most inhabited systems, as the locals regard the gas giant resources as belonging to them and not just free for the taking without permits, fees, etc.

I think I remember that thread. If I ever find players again, I think that world governments will universally look down on spacers stealing their hydrogen. I think gas giants are really where local and imperial interests could collide.

 

[Magnus von Thornwood]

Hell Yeah!

I think I remember that thread. If I ever find players again, I think that world governments will universally look down on spacers stealing their hydrogen. I think gas giants are really where local and imperial interests could collide.

:ssb: I have started a Traveller meme! Yes, ladies and gentlemen, I am just that good.

And it was post on my blog which I linked to when refueling come up in discussion of living ships and I had already written this up so I decided to link it so the Players were aware before hand. :devil: