Porting CT LBB1 Vehicles to T5

[robject]

Of course, CT vehicles talk of cargo in mass, not volume. So, beware. When it says "tons", it means units of mass (1000kg).

 

[aramis]

FYI, the basic ground car looks to be either the Ford Pinto Runabout Squire V6
Two metric tons... about $4000...

http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?page=1971-1980_Ford_Pinto_Specifications

 

[Timerover51]

FYI, the basic ground car looks to be either the Ford Pinto Runabout Squire V6
Two metric tons... about $4000...

http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?page=1971-1980_Ford_Pinto_Specifications

The weight of the Pinto you list is given as 2,656 pounds, which equates to 1.204 metric tons.

 

[Timerover51]

Before I start, though, I'm interested in seeing the DC-3 in Traveller5. And I'm not sure I can get it.


SUGGESTION. Maybe VehicleMaker needs a "Passenger" option for Flyers that bejigger things in a way that gets me my DC-3.


This is as close as I can get, at least as far as I can tell. TL4, 20 tons, 3 tons load, speed 6. Shouldn't it be more expensive? And is that load correct? (Am I right to assume that 3 tons = 12 passengers?). 20 seats would require 5 tons load, right?

code: EExpHWC(F)
type: Enclosed Experimental Hv Winged Cargo Flyer
TL: 4
vol: 20
spd: 6
ld: 3
AV: 14 {ca:0, fp:24, rp:0, sp:24, ps:0, in:22, se:1}
KCr: 6000

Possibilities. If I am allowed to scale volume, load, and price by 33%, then this design would include a 26 ton variant with a 4 ton load (= 16 passengers). I think I still need another ton out of this, but I can't see stretching things by more than a third.

A Very Heavy flyer looks like this:

code: EExpVhWC(F)
type: Enclosed Experimental Vh Winged Cargo Flyer
TL: 5
vol: 30
spd: 5
ld: 5
AV: 19 {ca:0, fp:24, rp:0, sp:24, ps:0, in:22, se:1}
KCr: 9000

The load is correct, but TL5 might be too high, and a Speed of 5 might be too slow.

Here's another one. Assuming that the ship is not only enclosed, but sealed (i.e. for air pressure), then I can get this at TL6:

code: SExpVhWC(F)
type: Experimental Vh Winged Cargo Flyer
TL: 6
vol: 14.5
spd: 3
ld: 5
AV: 21 {ca:2, fp:26, rp:0, sp:28, ps:0, in:26, se:21}
KCr: 2250.5

A high weight for passengers would be 200 pounds, so the three ton load would be 32 passengers. I would have to check my aircraft handbooks for the exact load in terms of passengers depending on the configuration of the aircraft, as the DC-3 was originally designed as a "Sleeper" transport carrying about 16 in convertible sleeper berths for overnight travel from coast to coast. The original cost ran about $100,000 depending on how the aircraft was set up. Cruising speed was about 170-190 mph on about 1200 horsepower. Take off horsepower ran up to 1200 horsepower per engine, as engines and fuel improved. The maximum number of passengers in airline seats was 32 for shorter-range stages. The passenger weight including 40 pounds or so for luggage. Juptner's U.S. Civil Aircraft-Volume 7 has a massive amount of information on the DC-3, while Brooks World's Airliners has a briefer section that including operating costs in British pence, based on $2,80 to the pound.

The DC-3 received its flight certificate on May 21, 1936, so should be a Tech Level 5 aircraft.

I would be more interested to see if you could build a Piper Cub using those rules.