Pensions...Retire on 4,000Cr. a year?

[rancke]

On the mercenary scale, it's looking like a 4-star would get Cr2800/mo (using the same progression as shown for the rest of the officers), which implies actives probably getting about Cr1400/month base, plus room, board, special assignment pays, command bonus, yada yada...

Why not Cr2800/month plus room and board, with the rest covered by his 14 shares in the unit's profits?

The salary of a private does not seem to include room and board (since that would be under subsistence living), so why should a general's pay include it?


Hans

 

[aramis]

Why not Cr2800/month plus room and board, with the rest covered by his 14 shares in the unit's profits?

The salary of a private does not seem to include room and board (since that would be under subsistence living), so why should a general's pay include it?


Hans

I never said it didn't - but you're the one fixating on living expenses.

 

[rancke]

I never said it didn't - but you're the one fixating on living expenses.

Sorry, I thought you did. Who are the actives you talk about, then? The ones getting Cr1400/month plus room and board and whatnot?

If by "fixated" you mean that I see a significant difference between getting X credits plus room and board and getting X credits from of which room and board is deducted, then I guess I'm fixated.


Hans

 

[BlackBat242]

The figures from price of long-term subsistence. On p. 109 of TTB, but it's in the original LBBs too somewhere.


Hans

Thanks, I'll have a look on my PDF.

I've had the 1981 print of the LBBs for decades, and don't remember seeing that, I'll have to look.

 

[aramis]

Thanks, I'll have a look on my PDF.

I've had the 1981 print of the LBBs for decades, and don't remember seeing that, I'll have to look.

Note that it's page 19...

Subsistence on a Long Term Basis: In situations where time passes quickly, personal survival or subsistence costs can be assumed to be the values given below:
Starvation Level: bare minimum of food, Cr60 per month; dismal lodging, Cr60 per month.
Subsistence Level: reasonable food, Cr120 per month; acceptable lodging, Cr180 per month.
Ordinary Level: good food, Cr200 per month; good lodging, Cr200 per month.
High Living: excellent food, Cr600 per month; excellent accomodations, Cr300 per month.
Starships: Passengers and crewmembers have their food
and lodging provided, with costs covered by the life support
costs necessary for operation of the ship.

As for what's doubling the pay - crewmen aboard ship count their passage as life support - so that's not it.

However, it's not uncommon for sea pay to be between 10% and 50%. (Currently, it's about 5% for the USN, going up to about 10% at 3 years continuous sea duty - and that not all sea duty is actually underweigh). Separation Pay is a fixed bonus currently, and it's $250 -which would be about Cr64 (using the US BLS CPI based calculator

 

[BlackBat242]

Note that it's page 19...



As for what's doubling the pay - crewmen aboard ship count their passage as life support - so that's not it.

However, it's not uncommon for sea pay to be between 10% and 50%. (Currently, it's about 5% for the USN, going up to about 10% at 3 years continuous sea duty - and that not all sea duty is actually underweigh). Separation Pay is a fixed bonus currently, and it's $250 -which would be about Cr64 (using the US BLS CPI based calculator

Shows you how much (or little) we cared to play accountant-PCs (or to turn Traveller into Paybooks & Balance Sheets like some do).

 

[aramis]

Shows you how much (or little) we cared to play accountant-PCs (or to turn Traveller into Paybooks & Balance Sheets like some do).

I've one player that, unless prevented, turns every merchant game into accounting 101.

He's not played in any of the Merc Unit games I've run.

 

[whulorigan]

He's not played in any of the Merc Unit games I've run.

So your saying you have missed the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to play Logistics & Quartermasters.

 

[atpollard]

So your saying you have missed the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to play Logistics & Quartermasters.

As a non-wargamer ... almost every wargame that I have been exposed to feels a lot like Logistics & Quartermasters.

I prefer RPGs where I can play a 'Big Darn Hero' (or at least someone sort of interesting).

That said, becoming 'filthy rich beyond all normal bounds of avarice', does have a long tradition stretching back at least as far as Monopoly.

 

[aramis]

So your saying you have missed the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to play Logistics & Quartermasters.

I ran a BT Merc game back in the 80's...
And I ran a Mercs game around 1988-89. Both of which had L&Q aspects.

Oh, and I ran a Megacorp BoD game in '91 - that was almost pure L&Q, as most of the enterprises were merc units and supply chain being moved in-house.

 

[Supplement Four]

It seems to me I've seen an article--I think maybe a Challenge article (but maybe not--that discussed the value of an Imperial Credit. I remember it being valued at more than a buck but less than $5 or $10.

Does that ring anybody's bells?

 

[aramis]

It seems to me I've seen an article--I think maybe a Challenge article (but maybe not--that discussed the value of an Imperial Credit. I remember it being valued at more than a buck but less than $5 or $10.

Does that ring anybody's bells?

In the 90's, the then-current US$ was about 1/3 the value of the 1977 US$.

I've looked at a number of the issues for this before on the boards.

The CT/Striker numbers look like 1977 US$. The TCS numbers look like 1980-'83 or so US Incomes.

 

[Chuck Anumia]

IMTU

My Mercenary Corps is always looking for 5 term recruits

Caste of Assassins Mercenary Corps Monthly Pay and shares List
Officers (including Warrant Officers)
Rank/ Salary / Share
1 / $1,000 / 5
2 / $1,200 / 6
3 / $1,400 / 7
4 / $1,600 / 8
5 / $2,000 / 9
6 / $3,000 / 10

Enlisted
Rank / Salary / Share

1 / $300 / 1
2 / $400 / 2
3 / $450 / 3
4 / $550 / 3
5 / $650 / 4
6 / $800 / 4
7 / $900 / 5
8 / $1,200 / 6
9 / $1,500 / 7