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Patent of Nobility Card (where are you?)

Heya

Finally getting around to this...

Knight of Navar, Diaspora 1804
Viscount of L'sis, Deneb 0409
TAS: Vodyr, Lishun 0140

:-)

D.
 
new title

Hi,

Just received my deckplans and Marc included a patent of nobility card as well!

I am now the unnamed Viscount of Corridor 1105 Mount A675887-8

So I need to get the department of the environment working on that taint in the atmosphere...

Looking over the border there's nothing to worry about there...

Do I get a County as a Viscount? If so can I have responsibility for Yopogirp, Wieresh and Formation with it's TLB Naval Base as well?

How much power do I have is the Marquis the actual ruler of the planet?

This is really, really great!

Kind Regards and many thanks

David
 
Do I get a County as a Viscount? If so can I have responsibility for Yopogirp, Wieresh and Formation with it's TLB Naval Base as well?

How much power do I have is the Marquis the actual ruler of the planet?

A Viscount's territory is a Viscounty.

In T5, the fief & demesne allocations have been altered form prior versions of Traveller (all the cards are based around the T5-system, AFAIK). All of the ramifications of the Noble-title retcon are not entirely clear. However, it seems that ALL Nobles (Knight thru Duke) are associated with a SINGLE world (with Noble level corresponding to world importance).
 
But...

I thought they have two land grants. One on their world and another off world. The second one can range from being fairly local to the entire sector.

Would each land grant give some form of responsibility and/or control?
 
But...
I thought they have two land grants. One on their world and another off world. The second one can range from being fairly local to the entire sector.
Would each land grant give some form of responsibility and/or control?

Thanks, good point, as a Viscount I get 16 hexes on my mainworld and 16 within the sub-sector, if I read the table correctly...

Thanks

David
 
But...

I thought they have two land grants. One on their world and another off world. The second one can range from being fairly local to the entire sector.

Would each land grant give some form of responsibility and/or control?


This is where we need more information on the new Noble paradigm.

In T5, wherever the Noble has land-grant hexes (on however many worlds), he has both economic and a degree of legal control (as well as ownership of private property). But only in those hexes.

Nevertheless, a Noble Title in T5 is still associated with a particular world, and therefore he presumably has political responsibilities for that particular world.

In the older Noble system, a Viscount would be primarily associated with 2-3 (or more) worlds, with a fief on one (or split between the worlds). In the new system, he has ONE primary world, and hexes scattered throughout the subsector.
 
Thanks, good point, as a Viscount I get 16 hexes on my mainworld and 16 within the sub-sector, if I read the table correctly...

That was actually debated in the T5 forums.

To the best of my understanding, the RAW imply that the FIRST HEX of the 16 is on the Viscount's Fief-Mainworld, the rest are scattered thru the subsector on any worlds that merit a viscount (including both the Fief Mainworld and any other Pre-Hi Trade Class worlds).

If your world is the only Pre-Hi world in the subsector, then all the hexes will be on that world. Otherwise, they may be scattered about.

The other 16 (non-mainworld hexes) are individually on non-mainworlds in the particular systems where the those particular main-world hexes were granted.

At least, that IMHO is the best reading of the RAW (although I am not sure if that is what was intended).
 
Sounds right as RAW... but I can see why there was debate. Too bad their not all on the same world, makes it more difficult to figure what you may have and a lot harder to manage if you had real duties. 32 terrain hexes on 32 different worlds????
 
Sounds right as RAW... but I can see why there was debate. Too bad their not all on the same world, makes it more difficult to figure what you may have and a lot harder to manage if you had real duties. 32 terrain hexes on 32 different worlds????


What it would do is invest the nobility in the greater political responsibilities of the Subsector or Sector as a whole, rather than promoting a simple parochial outlook.

But keep in mind, the 16 mainworld hexes do not have to be on 16 different worlds, that is just the maximum that they could be. If the world in question is the only Pre-Hi world in the subsector, then all 16 will be on that world. If there are three Pre-Hi worlds in the subsector (for example), then the hexes could be divided between anywhere from 1-3 worlds, depending where the random allocation fell in regard to those three worlds.

It would be a very unusual subsector indeed that had 16 Pre-Hi Trade Classification worlds to spread land-grant hexes around.
 
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That was actually debated in the T5 forums.
To the best of my understanding, the RAW imply that the FIRST HEX of the 16 is on the Viscount's Fief-Mainworld, the rest are scattered thru the subsector on any worlds that merit a viscount (including both the Fief Mainworld and any other Pre-Hi Trade Class worlds).

If your world is the only Pre-Hi world in the subsector, then all the hexes will be on that world. Otherwise, they may be scattered about.
Well Courage is the only other Ph Imperial world in the sub-sector, there's the Client state of New Vland and the non aligned Zontra'Lee beyond the frontier, both J5 away, not sure I'd like territory there...

Thank You

Kind Regards

David
 
I am now the unnamed Viscount of Corridor 1105 Mount A675887-8

David

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