Patent of Nobility Card (where are you?)

[Baltech Budapest]

KNIGHT OF THE DOMAIN OF DENEB
SPIN 3123 NADRIN D420203-7

Starport quality: Poor
Size: 4000 miles diameter
Atmosphere: Very thin, Tainted
Hydrographics: Desert World
Population: Hundreds
Government: None
Law Level: Low
Tech Level: 7

The QR Code on the back of the card is a nice touch. Just like the book and the CD-ROM, it's the attention to detail which makes it so special. I don't care if it's a tiny rock with a small population, there's a scout base there and it's only a one week jump to Mora and the X-Boat Route. I'll take it!!

 

[Ector]

Greetings, Ladies and Gentlemen!

I am Baron of Ianic/Lunion (Spinward Marches 1924), and I'm happy as a child with my title Yes, the system is small and not very impornant, but the title opens the way for endless adventures!
Can you expect a subsector Duke, for instance, to buy a Free Trader and go earn some money? No, he's bound to his duties. A not-very-significant noble ruling the small world is the ideal material for an adventurer. He is proud and ambitious, but poor, and he wants to gain fame and become rich. D'Artagnan and baron de Sigognac are classic examples.
Ianic is almost the ideal place for adventuring. It's just a few jumps from the border: Sword Worlds can be hostile, Darrians can be plotting (or may be your allies), and Zhodani aren't very far away.
Want more intrigue? Easily. The Duke of Lunion supports Duchess Delphine of Mora against Archduke Norris of Deneb (according to GURPS Nobles). As long as I've got my title from Archduke Norris, I should support him and oppose my subsector Duke. Revealing the noble plots may be easy for me, as there is a backup Xboat station in Ianic where all messages are stored...

 

[Ector]

Here is the formal info from the cards:

Knight of the Third Imperium SPIN 1924 Ianic E360697-5
Baron of the Spinward Marches SPIN 1924 Ianic E360697-5
TAS card issued at MASS 0210 Tanoo B78A452-D

I've just realized that Knight and Baron titles may be for the different people... or not?

Anyway, if you ever arrive on Ianic, you're welcome! I will show you our Slindi races, and you can even try riding yourself!

 

[esampson]

I am Baron of Ianic/Lunion (Spinward Marches 1924), and I'm happy as a child with my title Yes, the system is small and not very impornant, but the title opens the way for endless adventures!
Can you expect a subsector Duke, for instance, to buy a Free Trader and go earn some money? No, he's bound to his duties. A not-very-significant noble ruling the small world is the ideal material for an adventurer. He is proud and ambitious, but poor, and he wants to gain fame and become rich. D'Artagnan and baron de Sigognac are classic examples. . .

In a previous post I was trying to give an example of how the listing of a noble under the new system data does not necessarily mean they hold lands or authority in that system. The example I gave should offer plenty of adventure ideas for those nobles, if they were PCs. I didn't really go into things that many people would find exciting ideas for the Count since that wasn't the original intent but certainly you could expand upon the Duke's spying on him, people doing things to try and make the Duke look bad (if the Count should die that probably would not sit well with the Empire), and of course he might not be aware of Render's true purposes for being in the delegation which could draw him out of his position as merely providing an Imperial presence.

Basically there are lots of opportunities for Nobles to have adventures. Look at Paul Atreides. Even if you remove all the 'special snowflake' stuff about him being the Cuisinart Hatrack and the fact that he is the only individual trained both as a Bene Gesserit and a Mentat you've got a pretty good political tale of his father being put into a position where his enemy was bound to attack him because people higher up the political food chain viewed him as a threat. This spins out into betrayal, building an army, and revenge, not just against the old enemy but against the person who set things in motion.

Being a noble leads to all sorts of adventures. Generally they are different from the 'could you deliver this cargo to planet X for me?' kind but nonetheless nobles got where they were because they were active people, conquering countries and waging intrigues.

Really, there was only a fairly brief period on Earth where nobles were able to sit around idly without a care in the world, and that was shortly before people started getting their heads chopped off.

 

[aramis]

Duke of the Third Imperium
SPIN 0534 KARIN A767768-C

Count of the Spinward Marches
SPIN 2232 Crout E435CA-7

Marquis of the Third Imperium
SPIN 2410 Inthe B575776-9

Viscount
Spin 1824 Adabicci A571898-B

Baron of the Third Imperium
SPIN 2231 Marastan D868772-5

Knight of the Iridium Throne
CORE 1434 Diirmuu C755203-A

Sir William Hostman
DAGU 0622 Mai D530624-7

Sir William Hostman
OLDE 0512 Waroh A789846-D

 

[rancke]

Marquis of the Third Imperium
SPIN 2410 Inthe B575776-9

Oh, bad luck!


Hans

 

[LiNeNoiSe]

A somewhat humorous suggestion from irc:

<> now what would be cool is a pbm for all the people who bought noble titles... it could focus on getting promoted or demoted for performance in petty wars

<> and then you'd have a possible political background you could publish

<> they could actually do that with the pocket empires rules from t4

<> there ya go

 

[p00ka]

Hello from the Sir Joss, Count of Pretoria

Strephon gave me the patent for Pretoria (Deneb 0406 B656967-C)
It would seem my new responsibility might be a problem, since my family is from Phong (Daibei 2129 C564645-8), and it would seem there are vilani supremacists on Pretoria.
That brings the question... for those who have received Patents from Strephon (Marc Miller thru kickstarter), how many have acquired worlds which may be difficult to manage?

 

[p00ka]

as long as...

Well there is the wiki. I agree completely and I guess I just assumed this is part of the game plan. But perhaps the only plan was getting T5 out the door.

As long as they dont give away my patents, I am fine.

Sir Joss, Count of Pretoria

 

[savage]

war world

As long as they dont give away my patents, I am fine.

Sir Joss, Count of Pretoria

Well, Count of Porozlo (Spinward Marches 2715) would definitely count at a difficult to manage environment.

Agreed that giving duplicate patents would be a mess. However, there is a level of complexity missing.

 

[rancke]

It would seem my new responsibility might be a problem, since my family is from Phong (Daibei 2129 C564645-8), and it would seem there are vilani supremacists on Pretoria.

Didn't the last remnants of those get rooted out a couple of years ago?

Anyway, Pretoria is run by a civil service bureaucracy, so you don't have to worry. Except about running your fiefs, of course.

That brings the question... for those who have received Patents from Strephon (Marc Miller thru kickstarter), how many have acquired worlds which may be difficult to manage?

Most of those worlds have governments of their own to run them.


Hans

 

[p00ka]

Howdy!

Sir Scathsealgaire, Baron of Lablon.
Lablon seems like a nice little border world. Can't think of anything that could possibly go wrong this close to the Vargr..."A non-industrial, agricultural Imperial world located in the Aramis Subsector of the Spinward Marches. The name of the world is sometimes spelled "Labion." The Imperial government has established a major trading station at Lablon to encourage commerce with the neighboring Vargr. "

Sir Scathsealgaire - Zaru 1933 Udim D887944-B
Baron of the Spinward Marches - Spin 2701 Lablon B646589-A
TAS - Anta 340 Kung C697748-8

Hey, we be neighbors! Come by and say hello if you are ever in Pretoria!

 

[p00ka]

Howdy Neighbor! I am the count of Pretoria, 12 parsecs trailing from you.

 

[p00ka]

If you keep Porozlo, then we will be neighbors.

Sir Joss, Count of Pretoria (Dene 0406)

 

[p00ka]

I am jealous that you got Rhylanor! And given the order of the Iridium throne? Shiny! I am your neighbor.

Sir Joss, Count of Pretoria (Deneb 0406)

 

[p00ka]

Pretoria

Didn't the last remnants of those get rooted out a couple of years ago?

Anyway, Pretoria is run by a civil service bureaucracy, so you don't have to worry. Except about running your fiefs, of course.


Most of those worlds have governments of their own to run them.


Hans

I was wondering if HIM Strephon sent me there because he feels it was about time to bring them back into the fold? If so, I may have my work cut out for me. I have read what I can about the planet ( http://wiki.travellerrpg.com/Pretoria_(world) ), and as far as RP work, it could be fun. :ssb:

 

[Selandia]

Strephon gave me the patent for Pretoria (Deneb 0406 B656967-C)
That brings the question... for those who have received Patents from Strephon (Marc Miller thru kickstarter), how many have acquired worlds which may be difficult to manage?

This all go back to the understanding of the role of nobility in T5. Welcome to the debate.

It also relate to what you want to do with this noble of yours: PC or NPC?

I got Count of the Spinward Marches with my land grant on Rethe. What is my relationship to the charismatic dictator ruling this world? Well, I decided that Sir selandia Ballin, Lord Rethe will not be a PC but the Patron NPC. I will be the charismatic dictator in charge. :devil: Of course, I could make a campaign where I would be the "libertador" with the PC in charge of assinating the Tyran:devil: so that I can replace him

Honestly, I do not know how to handle such Lords as PC. May be I get into a Empire building spreadsheet adventure?

have fun

selandia

 

[rancke]

I was wondering if HIM Strephon sent me there because he feels it was about time to bring them back into the fold? If so, I may have my work cut out for me. I have read what I can about the planet ( http://wiki.travellerrpg.com/Pretoria_(world) ), and as far as RP work, it could be fun. :ssb:

Your link is missing the rightmost paranthesis.

The writeup is non-canonical; it was written by Peter Gray. Also note that it is written for the New Era and a lot of the information is post-Classic Era.

There is some canonical information in the first issue of Travellers' Digest and in GT:Nobles[*]. There is also some information about Pretoria in some JTAS Online articles by John G. Wood, but those are non-canon too[**]. I assume there is also information in MGT: Deneb, but as I don't have that, I can't say for sure.

[**] Though some people do not accept GT material as canonical.

[**] They do have the semi-demi-hemi-canonicity of being free to use as background material, just like regular canon.​

Someone really should amend the wiki article with all the canoincal information. Maybe I'll look into it myself one of these days.


Hans

 

[savage]

neighbors

If you keep Porozlo, then we will be neighbors.

Sir Joss, Count of Pretoria (Dene 0406)

It's hard to resist all of the tax credits.

 

[savage]

The holding of Duke Aramis

Duke of the Third Imperium
SPIN 0534 KARIN A767768-C

Count of the Spinward Marches
SPIN 2232 Crout E435CA-7

Marquis of the Third Imperium
SPIN 2410 Inthe B575776-9

Viscount
Spin 1824 Adabicci A571898-B

Baron of the Third Imperium
SPIN 2231 Marastan D868772-5

Knight of the Iridium Throne
CORE 1434 Diirmuu C755203-A

Sir William Hostman
DAGU 0622 Mai D530624-7

Sir William Hostman
OLDE 0512 Waroh A789846-D

3 A starports and a B,C,D tech levels. Any thoughts for your new world?