ThunderChilde
SOC-13
Finally got my sweaty mitts on a copy of Supplemet 6: Military Vehicles.
My brain's been simmering over designing a Shirow style landmate, I had a few statistics from the master himself on weight and what not.
First, Supplement 6 is not meant to build small walkers/oversized power armour. With out taking a few liberties, it cannot be done. Such as,
using the miniaturize feature multiple times, on more than sensors. Using the HG size reduction for higher TL, and budget space for an operator a normal human occupies 70 liters of space, budgeted 100 for bigger folks.)
For a smallish 3 M3 Landmate I had to do alotta wiggling, and finagling to get things to fit. I could just use things from other sources for sensor that would have been waaaaay smaller, I went the other way and miniaturized the hell out things, partly to run up the price, it was coming out as a dirt cheap alternative to BD. I still used a few things from CSC and the MB to finish it.
Its lighter than a Guges-H, faster than one too, yet by the ground pressure rules, it needs something on the order of a runway strength of deck to move on, if the GP rules even allowed it to move at all. Walkers get a miniscule charge for volume, because the drive is external, all you pay for is the connections and controls, 5% of M3. Then you take this small number, double it, multiply it by 1000, and still get a really small number, and use that to divide your weight. If it was nothing but a frame and a drive, with nothing else attached, it would still fail to move. So I cheated. The Guges has a Grav flight system anyway, I had to ignore the ground pressure rule.
I know alotta folks hate cheating by hand waving grav as a solution, but it was the only solution, the rules don't work at a small scale, especially the forumla and methodolgy of walkers.
I didn't have a way to model Power Plant out put. A Guges-D and H both come in at 1453kg even though the H had beter armour and extra features, it is a later model, and Appleseed is all about the rapid development of newer and smaller tech.
Feed back and comments welcome, especialy if I flat out misunderstood the ground pressure rule.
My brain's been simmering over designing a Shirow style landmate, I had a few statistics from the master himself on weight and what not.
First, Supplement 6 is not meant to build small walkers/oversized power armour. With out taking a few liberties, it cannot be done. Such as,
using the miniaturize feature multiple times, on more than sensors. Using the HG size reduction for higher TL, and budget space for an operator a normal human occupies 70 liters of space, budgeted 100 for bigger folks.)
For a smallish 3 M3 Landmate I had to do alotta wiggling, and finagling to get things to fit. I could just use things from other sources for sensor that would have been waaaaay smaller, I went the other way and miniaturized the hell out things, partly to run up the price, it was coming out as a dirt cheap alternative to BD. I still used a few things from CSC and the MB to finish it.
Its lighter than a Guges-H, faster than one too, yet by the ground pressure rules, it needs something on the order of a runway strength of deck to move on, if the GP rules even allowed it to move at all. Walkers get a miniscule charge for volume, because the drive is external, all you pay for is the connections and controls, 5% of M3. Then you take this small number, double it, multiply it by 1000, and still get a really small number, and use that to divide your weight. If it was nothing but a frame and a drive, with nothing else attached, it would still fail to move. So I cheated. The Guges has a Grav flight system anyway, I had to ignore the ground pressure rule.
I know alotta folks hate cheating by hand waving grav as a solution, but it was the only solution, the rules don't work at a small scale, especially the forumla and methodolgy of walkers.
I didn't have a way to model Power Plant out put. A Guges-D and H both come in at 1453kg even though the H had beter armour and extra features, it is a later model, and Appleseed is all about the rapid development of newer and smaller tech.
Feed back and comments welcome, especialy if I flat out misunderstood the ground pressure rule.
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