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Metal 3D printed pistol

3D guns

Still very bleeding edge. They're not printing and putting it together with a perfect gun. The risk is high.
 
gun manufacturing

Give it a couple of years.

I would hope that no one would assemble a gun from a 3d printer, metal or not, without putting it through extensive testing and validation before even thinking about using it.

In Traveller terms, I'm suggesting we're a tech level off production at best.
 
might be better

When they can 3d print the ammo its really time to worry.

Is that a bad thing or good thing. Actually it should come first for certain types.
The gov't has been buying extraordinary amounts of ammunition. This would bring the price back down.
 
In Traveller terms, I'm suggesting we're a tech level off production at best.

Nope. It'll be ready during our current TL. My Bro-in-Law works as a VP QA for a large Defense contractor and they are only 2-5 years away for this level of production.
 
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... and yet it will be 2025 before we will be ready to launch an Apollo class spacecraft beyond LEO. [sigh]
 
The gov't has been buying extraordinary amounts of ammunition.

No, they haven't. The primary causes of the shortage are:
1. hording by individuals
2. Co-op/purchasing clubs buying large stockpiles of ammunition for re-sale to members.

At a recent gun show in Utah I saw multiple examples of such groups having large amounts of ammo for sale "to members only". Several of them had literature boasting of the large quantities of ammunition they had "in our warehouse, to guarantee we can meet future demand".
 
ammo

No, they haven't. The primary causes of the shortage are:
1. hording by individuals
2. Co-op/purchasing clubs buying large stockpiles of ammunition for re-sale to members.

At a recent gun show in Utah I saw multiple examples of such groups having large amounts of ammo for sale "to members only". Several of them had literature boasting of the large quantities of ammunition they had "in our warehouse, to guarantee we can meet future demand".

Yes. They have. :p ;)
I have no doubt that is occurring too. Not unlike real estate in some respects. The antigun scare is driving up sales.
Fact is that one of my old work friends with a clear view of the entire industry informed me of this activity. Listen to it. Ignore it...I don't care.

Back to 3d Printing:
I have no doubt 3d printed weapons are on the horizon. This should take an interesting turn. If anything I believe an improvement and more diverse manufacturing is around the corner. The innovative designs could be very interesting. It will be a while before a standard home printer is going to be kicking out AK47's. Even then it will be a long time before assembly can occur without adequate safe, testing before use. The success in printing rocket parts is a clear indicator that this technology is going to have huge benefits.
 
No, they haven't.

Yes they have. It is well documented by the GAO office itself stating that it is investigating due to the HUGE ammo purchases. I haven't the foggiest idea why you would say otherwise when it is a matter of public record. Can you elaborate why you think that the GAO is lying?
 
Yes they have. It is well documented by the GAO office itself stating that it is investigating due to the HUGE ammo purchases. I haven't the foggiest idea why you would say otherwise when it is a matter of public record. Can you elaborate why you think that the GAO is lying?

Give me a link to that GAO report, please... as all I have seen is an authorization for the Department of Homeland Security to purchase "up to" 1.6 billion rounds total of all calibers over the next 5 years.

This contract covers ammo for Customs and Border Protection, Citizenship and Immigration Services, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the U.S. Secret Service, Transportation Security Administration, the DHS police force, and all the guards that protect the various buildings these agencies are housed in.

This is an authorization, not an actual buy... and a simple calculation of the number of rounds actually expended per Federal agent (of all the above agencies) per year in training accounts for nearly all of that ammo. They are required to qualify 4 times per year, and each qualification uses ~150 rounds including required practice sessions. This totals 600 rounds per year per agent, while each agent's share of the "1.6 billion over 5 years" is ~800 rounds per year. DHS by itself has between 65,000 and 79,000 armed agents.

Specifically, under that authorization DHS has contracted with manufacturers for a "guaranteed supply of up to 450 million rounds of .40S&W hollow-point ammo over the 5 years"... the rest is for 9mm and other calibers used by DHS and the other agencies.


In April this year Congress held a hearing, and much was made about the ammo contract providing more ammo for training of Federal agents than the Army uses for its soldiers... but the reality is that the Army (and Marines, etc) have gone to extensive use of "bullet simulating technology" for a lot of training (specifically to cut ammo costs). The Army numbers also include the majority of Army personnel who have non-combat jobs, and who thus qualify once per year (and do no other live-ammo training). So with Federal agents qualifying 4 times as often than most Army personnel, its not surprising that they would use more.
 
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Give me a link to that GAO report, please...

It's the top link in a Google search if. It also dominated the national news for some time with full purchase data being disclosed vs. historic levels. If you have any research ability it is there for the asking.
 
... and yet it will be 2025 before we will be ready to launch an Apollo class spacecraft beyond LEO. [sigh]


It is fiction, but I just had to mention this...
You know we're sitting on four million pounds of fuel, one nuclear weapon and a thing that has 270,000 moving parts built by the lowest bidder. Makes you feel good, doesn't it? - Rockhound
 
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