[LBB6 update needed?] Circumtrinary Planets May Exist...
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pretty much anything goes - we keep finding more systems that don't meet classic criteria and rules. So we keep changing the rules (hot gas giants, trinary star systems with planets, etc) We're finally expanding our viewpoint to worlds and systems outside this singular and only example we've been able to observe from the inside. A single data point says nothing about the rest of the data.
In another thread about the "reality" of Traveller system generation, my opinion is that it works for the game, but feel free to throw just about anything out there. The universe is a big, mind-boggling huge place and we've not even scratched a miniscule part of it yet.
Per Hamlet via Shakespeare:
In another thread about the "reality" of Traveller system generation, my opinion is that it works for the game, but feel free to throw just about anything out there. The universe is a big, mind-boggling huge place and we've not even scratched a miniscule part of it yet.
Per Hamlet via Shakespeare:
GypsyComet
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The TML had a fairly regular parade of both armchair and real Astrophysicists complaining about Book 6 and MT world and system generation rules being too weird. After years of exo-planet discovery, it is now apparent that Traveller isn't weird enough.
Spinward Flow
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S'truth.
Spinward Flow
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BUH ...
SVS-13 is ~300 parsecs away from Terra.
I wonder if it's recorded on Travellermap somewhere ...
Offset for the hex grid's misalignment with real-world galactic directions, go out 300 parsecs, and write it up.
BUH ...
SVS-13 is ~300 parsecs away from Terra.
I wonder if it's recorded on Travellermap somewhere ...
GypsyComet
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300 hexes out, but in which direction? Looks like spin-rimward, if my zodiac vs galactic spin is correct, so way out in uncharted territory, some two to three sectors rimward of Oiah Sector.
(If it's rim-trailing instead, it's out fairly close to the Turokan sectors, which are Traveller's version of The Odyssey or the Dawn Treader. That's Orion territory though, not Perseus.)
The older system generation rules sort of account for this case, since a mid-field binary can have planets in close around the primary, close in around the companion, and orbiting beyond the companion. Not probable, but possible.
(If it's rim-trailing instead, it's out fairly close to the Turokan sectors, which are Traveller's version of The Odyssey or the Dawn Treader. That's Orion territory though, not Perseus.)
The older system generation rules sort of account for this case, since a mid-field binary can have planets in close around the primary, close in around the companion, and orbiting beyond the companion. Not probable, but possible.
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It was like having a discussion with Winchell Chung about mapping, where he said "nobody can agree on anything" as the arguments boil down to the fact of there is not enough info, combined with too many variables. It is almost as soon as someone creates a model, it collapses in the face of new data.
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Between using the Captured Planet fractional orbits, placement with less bias for gas giants, and the extension of size in T5, the only exoplanet I recall outside the current system is Godzilla, which is supposedly a superterrene at around Size 17 or 18. The exotic speculations about atmospheres that come out of the exoplanet programs largely fit into Atmosphere B and C, if for different reasons than GDW envisioned.
A rule or two explaining why skimming from Hot Jupiters is a bad idea would be nice, if only because you aren't going to be very efficient due to Gas Laws, might overload the cryogenics of your fuel system with gas that hot, and, of course, might just cook off all those pesky organics in the ship, including the crew...
Traveller takes enough inspiration from SF that it is likely to keep the eggworld atmosphere code, though a lot of Astrophysicists think that can't happen. Mesklin, Medea, and Jinx would disagree, of course.
One thing I keep in mind is the example of Victoria in an early JTAS, and use chemical gradients to mitigate or liven up the Tainted atmospheres.
A rule or two explaining why skimming from Hot Jupiters is a bad idea would be nice, if only because you aren't going to be very efficient due to Gas Laws, might overload the cryogenics of your fuel system with gas that hot, and, of course, might just cook off all those pesky organics in the ship, including the crew...
Traveller takes enough inspiration from SF that it is likely to keep the eggworld atmosphere code, though a lot of Astrophysicists think that can't happen. Mesklin, Medea, and Jinx would disagree, of course.
One thing I keep in mind is the example of Victoria in an early JTAS, and use chemical gradients to mitigate or liven up the Tainted atmospheres.
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