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largest known hull deckplans?

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what i was wondering is what is the largest ship anyone has seen laid out into deckplans / game stats for?

just for fun i was wanting to make an ungodly huge starship the size of , oh say, a small moon... (can anyone say "the Deathstar" or "Dahak"), and i was wondering about the various peoples homebrewed plans... they all seem to be "normal sized" if you follow me, the largest i've seen seems to be only about 80,000 tn... anyone know of any that are truly gigantic??

it doesn't even have to fit in to the various game timelines, or game balance either... i just want to play around. i would prefer it to be a huge number of decks, and spaces per deck, etc... rather than a bulk cargo carrier that is really just a big balloon with a rocket and crew module attached.

anybody got any pointers, suggestions, links??
 
The largest deckplan I saw, I think, is the Ikazuchi in Robotech:Sentinels. I might have seen another one but I don't remember.
 
Traveller wise, I've seen a couple of 5000ton ships, and of course the Azhanti High Lightning cruiser of 60,000tons.
 
Originally posted by Ellros:
the Azhanti High Lightning cruiser of 60,000tons.
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right, that's what i mean... normal sized... heck, a modern day aircraft carrier uses 97,000 dtn yeah i know its of water... but the principle is the same, the high lightning is about the same size as the nimitz ("about" the same size, i know)

but it is "still" a small ship, compared to the deathstar, you know...
 
Well, Canon wise, the AHL is the biggest set of complete deckplans I've seen around. Several of the Robotech books have huge ships with basic plans, as mentioned above.
Now, one of the FASA CT adventures had basic plans for a 1 million ton planetoid ship. But those were of things like a "command deck", or a "residential/quarters" deck. Nothing complete.
 
yeah, i figured that would be the case. i was thinking more along the lines of a traveller style ship actually able to be designed using the various ship building / designing prgrams out there.

detailed deckplans for the same would be awesome, but even ones that were done up for the Robotech ship mentioned earlier are decent enough for my purposes.. yeah, they are a bit simplistic, but good enough for what i want. if i really wanted to, i could do the set of simplistic ones, and then detail certain areas thereof as needed.
 
The Robotech plans got MUCH larger than that, since they did plans for the big Zentraedi ships. The fact that these are designed for 50-foot-tall aliens is a mere quibble.

I haven't pegged Star Trek's Enterprise-D offhand, but it has fairly complete plans available. Similarly, DS-9 has a basic set of plans.

Several of the ships for the Jovian Chronicles game are pretty durn big, and have basic plans.

Then there's the Warden, from Metamorphosis Alpha. The Amazing Engine version of the game actually has some basic plans for this monster...

The two largest sets that are actually for Traveller are the aforementioned Lightning class and Judges Guild's Singing Star. Both take the approach of many repeated decks and a vertical deck arrangement.

A similar "cheat" was used by the folks who did the 2nd Edition of Albedo RPG. Their ships are arranged vertically as well, and the ships book they did merely presented standard decks at each standard diameter (all their ships are cylinders). Stack to your heart's content...
 
You could always try to hunt out the DeathStar Technical Manual (published I think by WEG). It contains plans for the main areas, which can also be used for other vessels. All areas are supposedly standardised and modular on SW Imperial ships. So the bridge of a star destroyer is identical to the bridge of a death star, but the death star has a cluster of them, each of them specialised to a particular function or set of functions.
There was also a boxed set of complete plans for the Enterprise-D a few years back that might still be available.
 
Originally posted by GypsyComet:

Several of the ships for the Jovian Chronicles game are pretty durn big, and have basic plans.

I have a few of the books, but none that have ships in them, can i have specifics, please?

Then there's the Warden, from Metamorphosis Alpha. The Amazing Engine version of the game actually has some basic plans for this monster...

cool, i think i have it, and forgot i had it...

The two largest sets that are actually for Traveller are the aforementioned Lightning class and Judges Guild's Singing Star.

are they online anywhere, i know that the High Lightning is out of print, and i've never even heard of the other one...

A similar "cheat" was used by the folks who did the 2nd Edition of Albedo RPG. Their ships are arranged vertically as well, and the ships book they did merely presented standard decks at each standard diameter (all their ships are cylinders). Stack to your heart's content...

anyone have any of these online either??

the reason for the request is, well, basically i work too much, and when i actually HAVE time to do other stuff, i don't want to re-invent the wheel if it's already out there. i would like to use that time saved to modify stuff already done, or to finally have an answer that what i want isn't available and will have to make it myself. that way i don't waste time anymore searching for something that ain't out there and to "finally" put my nose to the grindstone and make it myself... know what i mean?
 
Intro book for Jovian Chronicles had quite a few, as did the second book Europa Incident.

I saw the AHL plans online somewhere a few weeks ago. I'll see if I can't find them again.
 
The jovian chronicles home website www.dp9.com Dream pod nine. They have books on blue prints. Faded sun has a space station plans(haven't seen them).

If your making plans for big ship, just do the main area's first. Bridge, Engine room, Weapons control, Boat Bays, Fighter bays, Weapon turrets, maybe some example corridors, staterooms, places to have fights. The slowly flesh out the ship.
 
Originally posted by Ellros:
Well, Canon wise, the AHL is the biggest set of complete deckplans I've seen around.
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They're not actually complete. Many of the decks have the same layout and you only have one deck per layout.

The world-ship of the Sky Raiders is detailed in the same manner in Fate of the Sky Raiders by FASA. I forget it's size, but it was BIG.

Hans
 
I have done partial deck plans for a 200,00dt ship of diamond shape. At 5 miles long, you'll understand why I mapped only the small areas I needed to do! Lol!
 
I always thought the K'Kree would have the largest and most interesting ships of all the space faring races, after all how much living space does a Closterphobic,(SP) its late, "herd animal" need. That's another thing I find implausible about the Traveller universe, every race having about the same level of Tech with no racial specialty. I'll save it for a MTU thread.

You really can't get much bigger that the Death Star, DGP MegaTraveller digest 4 has a large spacestation, but no real plans. I doing some adventures using the Gurp Traveller Glistern book, and on one rock there is a billion people. In my minds eye, I have to think of it as the size of Texas, ok maybe California. Sometimes it hard to get things in scale with out a frame of reference.
 
Oh my. That's AN AHL, but not THE AHL. The original uses decks perpendicular to the direction of thrust.

Someone mentioned stations, and I (now) recall that the original Star Trek Technical manual has extensive (if small) plans for a number of BIG structures...
 
Originally posted by Ellros:
Alright, I looked, and here's what I found...

AHL deckplans
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Those must be home-brew deckplans. The designer confuses some basic features of the AHL. In addition to the difference in deck orientation, the spinal mount is presented as a launch tube, and there appears to be launch facilities in the dorsal fin as well. Then the entire forward cylindrical projection containing avionics and the auxillary bridge is shown as the spinal mount.

True AHL deckplans look more like THIS
 
Yea, the "official" AHL deckplans are actually to standard Traveller scale on 1/2" square grid, as I recall, to accommodate the counters.

There was one layout for the majority of the "fuel decks" which consisted of on the order of 65 identical decks where the only features were a couple of vertical access tubes which ran the length of the ship. It's pretty impressive all laid out, and would take a pretty big room to lay out all the sheets if you had all the fuel decks printed out. The game came with one copy of it.

I'd look and tell ya fer sure but I don't want to dig it out of the box in the garage.
 
Hmmmm... that link to the AHL plans doesn't show a strictly "canon" set.
In both the AHL adventure and "Arrival:Vengeance" the plans are laid out on a vertical pattern, as opposed to the horizontal one shown there.
And yes, there is a lot of repetition so only one example of each deck layout is shown.
 
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