Julian Protectorate

[Rodina]

Has anyone written, either as canon or not, any extensive material on the make-up of the Julian Protectorate? I know a bit of the Rebellion-era history of their alliance with Antares, and the small paragraph entries in various Traveller supplements, but has anyone done anything comprehensive?

Links and/or cites would be most appreciated.

 

[shield]

Challenge did a big article on the JP, with history and a sector sized map. I will check and see if I can find out which issue.

Cheers
Richard

 

[shield]

Julian Protectorate.

There is a 20 page article in Challenge 49, it details the history of the JP, the Menderes coorporation, a chronology, life in the JP, imperial relations, rebellion effectsjulian world generation, details of the Mendan sector - with sector map, subsector map, library data, complete sector UWP listings.

I think I have seen copies of this challenge on ebay recently.

Hope this helps

Cheers
Richard

 

[jzeitlin]

A lot of the information from Challenge mag on the Julian Protectorate was also included (and expanded upon) in the notes for Amdukan sector in Jim Vassilakos's GALACTIC program. The notes are ordinary text files, though perhaps obscurely named, so even if you can't run MS-DOS programs, you can download it, unzip it, and get the information (although it'd be a big download if all you're interested in is those notes).

 

[Rodina]

Thanks. I may have #49 somewhere, come to think of it - I haven't dug around Challenge much in years, but I guess that rings a bell.

Thanks again

 

[Falkayn]

G'day Rodina,

Pretty much everything on the web about the Julian Protectorate can be found on the portion of my website that deals with it. Most good things have been stolen and put there.

I've also made a bunch of stuff up and am running a campaign in Mendan sector (messing around with those sneaky Gashikans!).

 

[shield]

They had a getout paragraph for the change in shape of the JP. The article in Challenge states that the IISS used to only record the core JP worlds (i.e. 4 corners of Mendan, Amdukan, Empty Quater, and Antares sectors). Now the rebellion started and the IISS redrew the maps to include any world that had loose affilations to the JP.

Talk about feeble continuity cover-ups

Cheers
Richard

 

[rancke]

Originally posted by thrash:
Note that the Challenge article radically altered the borders of the Julian Protectorate portrayed in Atlas of the Imperium. All of the non-aligned worlds of the buffer zone with the Imperium were converted to loyal members of the Protectorate, and even a few clearly Imperial worlds had their allegiance switched.

Was it ignored or advanced to include the events of the Rebellion? I don't pay as much attention to stuff set outside the Domain of Deneb as I do to stuff set inside it, so I can't say myself.

Who says canon can't be revised at will? Just ignore what you don't like.

Well, you can do it (unless you have a well-informed, nit-picking editor, of course ) That defeats the whole point of having a canon. though.

Hans

 

[Murph]

I would much rather have had a really large war with the Julian Federation than the stupid rebellion and virus. If you wanted to shake things up give Strephon a case of Meglomania, and a desire to "reunite the Old Empire" and have him take on the Julians. It would have worked, wreck a few sectors, shake things up, perhaps force Strephon to abdicate when things got really bad.

 

[Falkayn]

Originally posted by Murph:
I would much rather have had a really large war with the Julian Federation than the stupid rebellion and virus. If you wanted to shake things up give Strephon a case of Meglomania, and a desire to "reunite the Old Empire" and have him take on the Julians. It would have worked, wreck a few sectors, shake things up, perhaps force Strephon to abdicate when things got really bad.

It certainly would have been interesting, and could have even started with another so called "Imperial Survey" (aka "spy mission"). Perhaps it might start with the Antares Sector defecting en masse to the Julian Protectorate (as happened during the Rebellion) - except this time over taxes, or the treatment of Vargr, or problems with the nobility.

It might even start with a megalomaniacal Menderes coming to power in the Protectorate and looking to annex large parts of neighbouring states (e.g. Gashikan). Then Strephon would be able to spin the war as a 'necessary action' to curb the violent actions of the JP.

From the JP viewpoint a more likely source of conflict is with the Third Gashikan Empire, and/or the militant K'kree (via the Jump-4 route across the Lesser Rift).

 

[Cleon the Mad]

Originally posted by rancke:
Well, you can do it (unless you have a well-informed, nit-picking editor, of course ) That defeats the whole point of having a canon. though.

Hans

Wish someone would tell that to the producers of Star Trek (any version).

 

[shield]

Rodina,

There is a copy of challenge 49 with the Julian Protectorate articles on ebay for $3 if you are still after it.

Cheers
Richard

 

[notagoodusername]

Not if I bid more! Bwahahahahaha!

*ahem* Sorry.

Shane

 

[pauldrye]

Originally posted by thrash:
Note that the Challenge article radically altered the borders of the Julian Protectorate portrayed in Atlas of the Imperium. All of the non-aligned worlds of the buffer zone with the Imperium were converted to loyal members of the Protectorate, and even a few clearly Imperial worlds had their allegiance switched.

It was based on DGP's borders as portrayed in "Vilani and Vargr" -- at the time I was interested in the Empire of Gashikan and had considerable discussion with Mike Mikesh (the author of the Challenge #49 article) via HIWG over who was what and where.

Mike believed the discrepancy was based partly on how you defined "membership". There were varying degrees of being in.

He also thought that the Protectorate had shown a (well-considered) tendency to pull together in the Rebellion Period, as a "don't @&%$ with us" display towards the Vargr.